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			not sure if I'm completely on topic I met a girl on this web site the first day she started to hobby she was young 19 and going thru some hard times,I was so taken with her that the second time I saw her I just simply asked her how much it took for her to only see me and explained to her the SD SB relationship,that relationship lasted a little over a year,I would encourage her to see men her own age as I was 45 at the time which she did it wasn't a problem.I would put her in the traditional SB mind set.it was a beautiful thing while it lasted 
it ended when I had a stroke and was unable to provide for her needs while I recovered,she is still a dear friend to me and even though it has ended when I hear from people I know that she is in need of something I still reach out to her with a gift. 
 
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			08-16-2013, 08:00 AM
			
			
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			littlejohnny, 
First I am glad you are still with us and congrats on fighting back. What you describe is what would seem to me a true sb/sd thing.  You sound like a gentleman SD. Well done.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-17-2013, 07:20 AM
			
			
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			08-17-2013, 09:15 AM
			
			
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			Moshi-Moshi Lady's & Gentleman: 
 
I will approach this topic tenderly as not to hurt feelings...as it is with respect that we receive respect, unfortunately most here have the definition of SD/SB slightly misconstrued. The particular dynamic of this Relationship is as old as the Hobby itself, lets start by what it is not and that is a Paycheck in lieu of seeing many Gentleman to just seeing one...a true SD/SB Arrangement is a Sponsorship with certain Benefits. Simply put its a Hand-Up from your 'Present Situation' to a Life-Goal your attempting to attain...a true Sugar-Baby brings something to the table other than an outstretched palm and empty Bank-Account. 
 
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			08-17-2013, 09:22 AM
			
			
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			Johnny, give yourself a pat on the back. That is exactly what the SD\SB relationship should be about. I noticed that you still gift her occassionally to help her out. Now I don't know if you are still able, but my bet is that she isn't offering to get BCD with you. If you can help her without the necessity for some sexual exchange, you are a classic sugar daddy and your relationship isn't over. If however, you feel it is over because she isn't sleeping with you, you still have a slight misunderstanding. SD\SB relationships aren't 'sex for money and goods'. When they are at their ultimate, I would consider the relationship as classic 'friends with benefits' where both sides get something of value to them. In your case, the value she gives you is probably not sexual now. It is the fact that you really have feelings for each other. Friendship is a form of love. Good work guy!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-17-2013, 10:21 AM
			
			
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				Moshi-Moshi Lady's & Gentleman:
 
I will approach this topic tenderly as not to hurt feelings...as it is with respect that we receive respect, unfortunately most here have the definition of SD/SB slightly misconstrued. The particular dynamic of this Relationship is as old as the Hobby itself, lets start by what it is not and that is a Paycheck in lieu of seeing many Gentleman to just seeing one...a true SD/SB Arrangement is a Sponsorship with certain Benefits. Simply put its a Hand-Up from your 'Present Situation' to a Life-Goal your attempting to attain...a true Sugar-Baby brings something to the table other than an outstretched palm and empty Bank-Account.
 
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There is more to any woman than the outstretched palm and\or an empty bank account. Unfortunately many men see those things as an opportunity to get in to the bedroom and have his way. It is so sad that the real value of the woman is so often overlooked. On the other side, so many women overlook the real value in a man. He is thought of as income. Who he is inside makes no difference to her. His need for love and intimacy then becomes a product she can sell. I have known several ladies that personally don't like their clients especially the married ones who they consider the scum of the earth for being cheaters. To them, it is strictly sex for money and it is 'hard work' putting on a front. These ladies often get great reviews. One lady wrote that she can tell when a man is a woman hater. I don't think so. I have been accused of it. Those who read my posts know it isn't true. I don't always catch the men haters either. The ladies I have seen have treated me so well. There is always more to a man than how much he can pay or how skilled he is behind closed doors. Every man is a unique person. The SD\SB relationship to me is ideal. Real life makes things different. So much so that the provider\client relationship is all that can work for most. Thanks for the observations Haruka.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-17-2013, 11:09 AM
			
			
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				....it was a beautiful thing while it lasted 
it ended when I had a stroke and was unable to provide for her needs while I recovered, she is still a dear friend to me and even though it has ended when I hear from people I know that she is in need of something I still reach out to her with a gift. 
			
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Perhaps my reading skills are lacking but it would seem that you are reminiscing about something that was and has ended while the young lady in question has moved along with her life. Her feelings undetermined, although it would seem likely they be less towards you than yours towards her.
 
Or, if there is more to this story between the lines you care to share, please do.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-19-2013, 08:58 AM
			
			
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			Sugar babies all on this post, gotta love them papi's $$$
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-20-2013, 08:32 AM
			
			
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			They do, but if that is all that he is good for and he is thinking the sex is necessary every time they meet, then it isn't a true SD/SB relationship no matter what they call it.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			when I say ended I mean we don't see each other on a regular basis anymore we still occasionally get together for lunch and though not always there still has been some /bcd activities. she still contacts me to say high or tell me about a new person in her life and get  
my opinion of things. she is my friend... I no false feelings of this going anywhere or becoming anything more than it is.....this relationship is temp. in nature.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-20-2013, 11:54 AM
			
			
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				There is more to any woman than the outstretched palm and\or an empty bank account. Unfortunately many men see those things as an opportunity to get in to the bedroom and have his way. It is so sad that the real value of the woman is so often overlooked. On the other side, so many women overlook the real value in a man. He is thought of as income. Who he is inside makes no difference to her. His need for love and intimacy then becomes a product she can sell. I have known several ladies that personally don't like their clients especially the married ones who they consider the scum of the earth for being cheaters. To them, it is strictly sex for money and it is 'hard work' putting on a front. These ladies often get great reviews. One lady wrote that she can tell when a man is a woman hater. I don't think so. I have been accused of it. Those who read my posts know it isn't true. I don't always catch the men haters either. The ladies I have seen have treated me so well. There is always more to a man than how much he can pay or how skilled he is behind closed doors. Every man is a unique person. The SD\SB relationship to me is ideal. Real life makes things different. So much so that the provider\client relationship is all that can work for most. Thanks for the observations Haruka. 
			
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What you have stated is a tragic reality alas these Providers have NO Life-Goals...in the Year & Eight-Months I've been in the Hobby I have; put myself thru Real-Estate School, started my R.E. Business, and bought a Condominium on the Beach. Those Providers live from 'Hand to Mouth' blaming everyone but themselves for their lack of success, NEVER taking the time to figure out...if they only treated an Encounter with the care it truly deserved their success would be immeasurable. There is a Provider in my area that is a 'Perfect Example' who has recently changed her identity...sure the newness of a fresh-face will draw a bit of attention for a short lived time, in the end Hobbyist are not ignorant it will eventually pan out to be the same Provider with the same inferior cut-rate service.  
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			08-20-2013, 03:31 PM
			
			
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			DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS!!! I love sugar  Daddy's , and Sugar daddy's love me!!!! So hobbyist if your looking for a sugar baby!!!Advertising in D&T is prohibited. - JB
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-20-2013, 03:33 PM
			
			
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				it ended when I had a stroke and was unable to provide for her needs while I recovered,she is still a dear friend to me and even though it has ended when I hear from people I know that she is in need of something I still reach out to her with a gift.
  
			
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Seems you are a good soul. Not sure about her, though    . I hope you are not offended, but from what you wrote, it seems I need to voice that opinion . But the thing with the stroke shows once more how "limited" SD relationships are in terms of empathy and real emotions.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-20-2013, 05:34 PM
			
			
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			I like the SD that are extra generous and don't mind his baby working a little. I mean just be a little open minded. Gosh, is that to much to ask for lol.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Sd/sb relationship can be so mutually rewarding between the right ppl.  
But I enjoy the freedom of not having to rely on one person.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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