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	| View Poll Results: How has the "Shutdown" negatively affected you? |  
	| 1 - "What shutdown?" |      | 21 | 72.41% |  
	| 2 |      | 3 | 10.34% |  
	| 3 |      | 2 | 6.90% |  
	| 4 |      | 1 | 3.45% |  
	| 5 |      | 0 | 0% |  
	| 6 |      | 0 | 0% |  
	| 7 |      | 1 | 3.45% |  
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	| 10 - "Imminent danger of losing my home or business" |      | 1 | 3.45% |  
	
 
 
 
	
	
	
	
		|  10-05-2013, 07:18 PM | #16 |  
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			I gave it a three because it is preventing us from talking about important stuff.
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		|  10-05-2013, 07:30 PM | #17 |  
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					Originally Posted by EXTXOILMAN  Of course you are...don't sell yourself short. |  
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					Originally Posted by WTF  So you think this government shutdown is not bad for some? Is that WTF you are saying Einstein? You do realize that I am not bitching about people being offended and then being offended by some lil lo park being shut down for a bit.   |  
That's not what the poll asks.  The reason I worded it this way is to have your first-hand experience, not the constant melt-down portrayal that's on MSNBC every night.  How are those TEA Party meetings going WTF?
 
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					Originally Posted by EXTXOILMAN  Never said that. Go back and read what I said, slowly. I said you're ignorant. Sorry for being too subtle; I'll say it more succinctly next time. |  
WTF's reading comprehension skills have been called out on the whore boards since 2003..maybe earlier.
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		|  10-05-2013, 10:40 PM | #18 |  
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			It isn't hurting the Federal employees that are being furloughed anymore - congress voted 417-0 to grant back pay for days missed! So, they probably want it to continue now!!
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		|  10-05-2013, 10:49 PM | #19 |  
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					Originally Posted by EXTXOILMAN  Okay, so I'll play your little semantics game. There is not a Department of Affordable Health Care, per se. It is a law, an inanimate thing. However, it is being foisted on the country by multiple federal agencies.
 You can stick your head in the sand all you want. But you're being willfully ignorant if you think O'BlunderCare is not part and parcel of the federal government.
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there you go
  
the republicans are trying to defund a LAW, and that's NOT part of their job of funding the federal government mandate in the CONSTITUTION.
  
duck all you want but that's a fact.
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		|  10-05-2013, 10:52 PM | #20 |  
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					Originally Posted by CJ7  there you go
 the republicans are trying to defund a LAW, and that's NOT part of their job of funding the federal government mandate in the CONSTITUTION.
 
 duck all you want but that's a fact.
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Let it play out, then we will see if Ozombies took this country over.
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		|  10-05-2013, 11:07 PM | #21 |  
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			Gave it a 3, not because it affects me personally, but it has prevented a family member from being able to start a teaching job.  Seems the state cannot get fingerprint check back from the DOJ.
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		|  10-05-2013, 11:16 PM | #22 |  
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			My #1 is in Afghanistan. As long as horny men want my ass and he gets a check on the 1st and 15th then we're good. Now, once he gets back that may be a different story.
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		|  10-05-2013, 11:31 PM | #23 |  
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					Originally Posted by CJ7  there you go
 the republicans are trying to defund a LAW, and that's NOT part of their job of funding the federal government mandate in the CONSTITUTION.
 
 duck all you want but that's a fact.
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So then why aren't you pissed at O'Blunder?? He's changed it 17 times, unconstitutionally, by executive fiat. Not part of his job, either.
 
And by the way, it is perfectly within the purview of Congress to change, defund, repeal, or otherwise "fix" any law. All they need is enough votes to get it through.
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		|  10-06-2013, 12:05 AM | #24 |  
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					Originally Posted by EXTXOILMAN  So then why aren't you pissed at O'Blunder?? He's changed it 17 times, unconstitutionally, by executive fiat. Not part of his job, either.
 And by the way, it is perfectly within the purview of Congress to change, defund, repeal, or otherwise "fix" any law. All they need is enough votes to get it through.
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yup, so defund the law in the senate and have the potus sign it like the constitution requires , Mr Purview
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		|  10-06-2013, 12:24 AM | #25 |  
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					Originally Posted by CJ7  yup, so defund the law in the senate and have the potus sign it like the constitution requires , Mr Purview |  
Answer the question. Why aren't you pissed at O'Blunder?? The same requirements apply to him, as well. But he did it unilaterally,  with approval from neither the Senate or the House.
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		|  10-06-2013, 02:09 AM | #26 |  
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					Originally Posted by EXTXOILMAN  Answer the question. Why aren't you pissed at O'Blunder?? The same requirements apply to him, as well. But he did it unilaterally, with approval from neither the Senate or the House. |  
Timothy Jost at the Washington and Lee School of Law, pointed to three: A one-year delay in requiring firms with over 50 workers to provide insuranceScrapping a long-term care insurance program (for nursing home care, for example) called the CLASS ActLifting the requirement on businesses to file a form called a 1099 for a variety of business expenses
 The administration acted on its own to delay the employer mandate, explaining that the systems were not in place to implement it. The other two changes came through votes in Congress
 
  
you're an idiot
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		|  10-06-2013, 07:02 AM | #27 |  
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					Originally Posted by WTF  #1 for me but I am not ignorant enough to believe that it is not bad news for some ! |  
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					Originally Posted by EXTXOILMAN  Never said that. Go back and read what I said, slowly. I said you're ignorant. Sorry for being too subtle; I'll say it more succinctly next time. |  
Let us read it in context. So in context do you believe that the shutdown is not hurting some folks? If so you are ignorant of the facts. 
  
You do understand EXTEXOILMAN that there are many things that you are ignorant of , just as I am . So for one to call someone ignorant without context is just ignorant. Why you might ask? Because the person you called ignorant is more versed than you in any number of things. In our case, clearly you are not versed in factual politics.  You are very ignorant in the political process.
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		|  10-06-2013, 07:10 AM | #28 |  
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					Originally Posted by gnadfly   That's not what the poll asks. The reason I worded it this way is to have your first-hand experience, not the constant melt-down portrayal that's on MSNBC every night. How are those TEA Party meetings going WTF?
 
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I answered what the stupidly worded poll asked. 
  
It has not effected me personally. 
  
But your question is like me asking you a yes/no question to : gnadfly, have you stopped beating your wife? 
  
Questions like yours are meant for political hacks, not to foster real debate. You are not a very smart man if you think this shutdown could do harm if it drug on for months. That is why you do not want discussion , it would bust your premise that the shutdown is not hurting anybody.  Maybe we can get some 92 year old vets answer the question. Call up Dear Abby and see if she will do that for JD, her loyal long time reader.
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		|  10-06-2013, 07:17 AM | #29 |  
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			Has it affected me or my family personally? Not in the least! 
 Initially, I was hesitant to even vote in this highly skewed poll. By responding with a "2" it might lead someone to believe that I am totally unconcerned about the government shutdown. That is not the case at all!
 
 For the record, I have compassion for those who have been negatively affected. This shutdown should have never occurred.
 
 Never!
 
 End of story!
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					Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn  I gave it a three because it is preventing us from talking about important stuff. |  
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