Can I just say....

[Plastic Man]

any jimmie ...reading more than five words of jimmiethetunas ...limp diatribe ...is a fucking



...sweeeeeeet

[ToriStarr]

Originally Posted by tonytuna

I agree with Tori that some guys need to have a little consideration regarding the provider wanting to take some minimum safety precautions but I have seen that some providers want employment info which I do think is too much to ask for.
Regarding the little men who troll on here just to start fights, it seems to me they are like a dog that's been beaten, they get no attention otherwise, so, they will bark and bark because even if its negative, its still human contact. I don't understand why a guy who hates women so much that he can't hide his disdain for them would even come on here. Obviously he visits ladies so he can take out his anger that they don't have a penis to stick in his mouth. Do some soul searching, come out of the closet, and enjoy the rest of your life. P.s. I think the word bully was used because you devolved into name calling, a typical bully move. The only douche buzz words used improperly would have to be using "beta" repeatedly. Now that's how you rant!

I like your rant!!!
As for screening, I think any man who wants to hobby discretely and safely would then appreciate caution on the provider's part.
As for employment info, I completely understand how a lot of men feel about this, though I do think some of it is misunderstood and it can be done safely. I prefer references for screening, for the fact that one it's generally easier but also because it is less intrusive. I really don't want to intrude....but when references aren't available yes I have been one of those ladies to ask for employment verification. Though there are a few different ways of doing employment verification, and I like to think that they way I do it is safe for both parties. When I do ask for employment verification though, I do explain that I understand it may be too much to ask for, and that I never want to ask someone to do something they are not comfortable with. So I politely leave it up to them whether or not they wish to proceed with that. I honestly hate that there HAS to be screening, I really don't want to make anyone jump through hoops or anything like that, but what it all comes down to is I would rather be safe than sorry

[Plastic Man]

sweeeeeeeet words from a ...funnel who gots a ...showcase pic ...with a dollar sign covering their face

...what yer screening really is ...is about 200 jimmie bucks

...ps ...the shitbird be flappin!

[tonytuna]

Originally Posted by ToriStarr

I like your rant!!!
As for screening, I think any man who wants to hobby discretely and safely would then appreciate caution on the provider's part.
As for employment info, I completely understand how a lot of men feel about this, though I do think some of it is misunderstood and it can be done safely. I prefer references for screening, for the fact that one it's generally easier but also because it is less intrusive. I really don't want to intrude....but when references aren't available yes I have been one of those ladies to ask for employment verification. Though there are a few different ways of doing employment verification, and I like to think that they way I do it is safe for both parties. When I do ask for employment verification though, I do explain that I understand it may be too much to ask for, and that I never want to ask someone to do something they are not comfortable with. So I politely leave it up to them whether or not they wish to proceed with that. I honestly hate that there HAS to be screening, I really don't want to make anyone jump through hoops or anything like that, but what it all comes down to is I would rather be safe than sorry

I couldn't agree more and I think if a provider didn't ask for any kind of screening I'd be more suspect of the whole meet. Also, the simple politeness of asking and not demanding it is a nice change from some other provider's take it or leave it attitude, I like the reference idea, it seems safest for both parties. Although, I can see how it may be difficult for the provider if the reference she contacts is catty and not forthcoming with helpful information. I imagine there are a-holes on the provider's side as they seem so prevalent on the providee side!

[moneytalksny]

Originally Posted by ToriStarr

I like your rant!!!
As for screening, I think any man who wants to hobby discretely and safely would then appreciate caution on the provider's part.
As for employment info, I completely understand how a lot of men feel about this, though I do think some of it is misunderstood and it can be done safely. I prefer references for screening, for the fact that one it's generally easier but also because it is less intrusive. I really don't want to intrude....but when references aren't available yes I have been one of those ladies to ask for employment verification. Though there are a few different ways of doing employment verification, and I like to think that they way I do it is safe for both parties. When I do ask for employment verification though, I do explain that I understand it may be too much to ask for, and that I never want to ask someone to do something they are not comfortable with. So I politely leave it up to them whether or not they wish to proceed with that. I honestly hate that there HAS to be screening, I really don't want to make anyone jump through hoops or anything like that, but what it all comes down to is I would rather be safe than sorry

I was with you to the employment verification...

Using other providers as references keeps everything anonymous... Once you got the employment validation route things get personal as your real info is out there. You never know when you've stepped into an exposingjohns type trap.

I suppose the employment verification would be fair (although still risky) if both provider and hobbyist exchanged personal info.

MTny

[wantsome]

Other point of view..

Most of my hobbying occurs spur of the moment. I have unexpected free time along with extra cash in the pocket and POW, that itch needs to be scratched. It can make it difficult to have a lengthy screening when I need it now. Must be a guy thing. I've got a track record on a number of sites with reviews of well established providers. I try and use this as reference material and if a provider I want to pork needs more I move on to the next gal. I also know of a situation that occurred in North Jersey a few years ago where a very well known and respected provider that not only screened but kept records of the Jimmy Johns suddenly flipped out and outed a number of guys. Made me think twice about what info I give out.

I also do most of my hobbying when I'm traveling. Don't do much on the home court. It can make it difficult to give references when the last meeting I had in a specific area might have been over a year ago. I'm kinda a couple minute missionary man. I guess I don't leave much of an impression with most gals. So my strategy doesn't work with all providers, probably my loss, but in my simple mind its a safe approach to getting laid.

[ToriStarr]

Originally Posted by tonytuna

I couldn't agree more and I think if a provider didn't ask for any kind of screening I'd be more suspect of the whole meet. Also, the simple politeness of asking and not demanding it is a nice change from some other provider's take it or leave it attitude, I like the reference idea, it seems safest for both parties. Although, I can see how it may be difficult for the provider if the reference she contacts is catty and not forthcoming with helpful information. I imagine there are a-holes on the provider's side as they seem so prevalent on the providee side!

Yeah references are my preferred in general, though they can be difficult for the reasons you said. Also, I like to be sure of the reference I'm using...if the girl I'm getting a reference from does no screening, then it defeats the purpose.

Originally Posted by moneytalksny

I was with you to the employment verification...

Using other providers as references keeps everything anonymous... Once you got the employment validation route things get personal as your real info is out there. You never know when you've stepped into an exposingjohns type trap.

I suppose the employment verification would be fair (although still risky) if both provider and hobbyist exchanged personal info.

MTny

That's awful. And why I completely understand why some men choose not to. It all comes down to personal preferences and choices....I prefer to screen everyone with references but realistically it just always doesn't happen, so I have the employment verification as an absolute last minute back up...but as I said I leave it up to the gentlemen whether or not they want to proceed with that. I've had men tell me no, and I don't get offended or bitch about it. The only reason I'm going on about this here, is that while yes I think there are valid concerns regarding employment verification, I do also believe there are safe ways to do it etc. I've gotten compliments regarding my employment verification from men who chose to go that route.

Originally Posted by wantsome

Other point of view..

Most of my hobbying occurs spur of the moment. I have unexpected free time along with extra cash in the pocket and POW, that itch needs to be scratched. It can make it difficult to have a lengthy screening when I need it now. Must be a guy thing. I've got a track record on a number of sites with reviews of well established providers. I try and use this as reference material and if a provider I want to pork needs more I move on to the next gal. I also know of a situation that occurred in North Jersey a few years ago where a very well known and respected provider that not only screened but kept records of the Jimmy Johns suddenly flipped out and outed a number of guys. Made me think twice about what info I give out.

I also do most of my hobbying when I'm traveling. Don't do much on the home court. It can make it difficult to give references when the last meeting I had in a specific area might have been over a year ago. I'm kinda a couple minute missionary man. I guess I don't leave much of an impression with most gals. So my strategy doesn't work with all providers, probably my loss, but in my simple mind its a safe approach to getting laid.

Also a good point.
I know looking for a last minute thing isn't always inconsideration, but also how that man's schedule works. I know a few men who because of their schedule just can't commit and last minute is all that works for them.
Screening aside, sometimes I've felt bad that I couldn't see someone last minute, but realistically it's just now how my schedule works or something I can do. There's a difference between seeking last minute dates out of inconsideration or because it's all that works, and men in the latter situation have still been able to ask or seek a last minute thing while being considerate.

[Plastic Man]

ya gots the ...threAD ...ya were dreamin about! ...stimulating ...conversation

...sweeeeeeet

[Victoria Anne]

It would be so much easier if everyone just prescreened, I try to be as laid back with my screening as I can. I do a provider reference from within the last six months, or eccie handle with reviews or p411 account with 2 OKs. It does get frustrating when guys expect us to get then screened and verified within twenty minutes Lol. Just doesn't work that way normally. But I'm glad you made an announcement about it, if at least one guy takes this into consideration when he emails a provider next time, then hey something good came from your rant!!

[MajorHands]

Originally Posted by Vickiny

It would be so much easier if everyone just prescreened, I try to be as laid back with my screening as I can. I do a provider reference from within the last six months, or eccie handle with reviews or p411 account with 2 OKs. It does get frustrating when guys expect us to get then screened and verified within twenty minutes Lol. Just doesn't work that way normally. But I'm glad you made an announcement about it, if at least one guy takes this into consideration when he emails a provider next time, then hey something good came from your rant!!

I'm a believer in pre-screening...can grease the skids for a short notice appt...doesn't always translate into an appt so there is some marketing cost time wise to the provider....still think the idea has merit...

[Plastic Man]

Originally Posted by MajorHands

I'm a believer in pre-screening...can grease the skids for a short notice appt...doesn't always translate into an appt so there is some marketing cost time wise to the provider....still think the idea has merit...

yer a ...good pimp! ...two big thumbs ...waaaay up ...from plastic man

[Victoria Anne]

Originally Posted by MajorHands

I'm a believer in pre-screening...can grease the skids for a short notice appt...doesn't always translate into an appt so there is some marketing cost time wise to the provider....still think the idea has merit...

Yes it takes a little bit of time, and may not lead to an appt right then and there. But it makes is so so so much easier to set things up on short notice. I prefer to do things that way, because the way my schedule is set up, its hard to set some things up weeks in advance sometimes. Plus I like the spontaneity of short notice appts

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by MajorHands

I'm a believer in pre-screening...can grease the skids for a short notice appt...doesn't always translate into an appt so there is some marketing cost time wise to the provider....still think the idea has merit...

It's a time cost to both sides , not just the provider. Major weakness of a lot of guys is to undervalue their own time. That's part of what allows the shitty TCB skills that are so prevalent.

[MajorHands]

Originally Posted by Plastic Man

yer a ...good pimp! ...two big thumbs ...waaaay up ...from plastic man

I just noted that we joined this site the same day....weird. For me: 700+ posts and over 50 reviews. For you: 2000+ (the earliest I could find was only as far back as 2012) posts and no reviews. Seems like we are involved with this for different reasons...

On the other hand, something just occurred to me which is even weirder...some have conjectured that you are actually a provider...maybe even one I have seen...lol! Damn...now whenever I see your posts on here, I have to wonder....

[elghund]

Originally Posted by MajorHands

I just noted that we joined this site the same day....weird. For me: 700+ posts and over 50 reviews. For you: 2000+ (the earliest I could find was only as far back as 2012) posts and no reviews. Seems like we are involved with this for different reasons...

On the other hand, something just occurred to me which is even weirder...some have conjectured that you are actually a provider...maybe even one I have seen...lol! Damn...now whenever I see your posts on here, I have to wonder....

elg......