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10-23-2014, 10:45 AM
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Hope I haven't bored you!
Join Date: Apr 30, 2009
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Don't do BP. Too many safer and awesome girls here on ECCIE and P411.
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Originally Posted by Imatk
I keep reading posts like "I'll just stick with girls here" as if no girl on eccie ever screwed someone over or provided less than stellar service.
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Very True!
Take a look and compare the number of alerts as well as NCNS of BP girls vs ECCIE Girls to the reviews of BP Girls.
Far more positive experiences then negative ones in comparisons.
The thing I would say about BP is that it is NOT for an inexperienced guy that has not done his homework.
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10-23-2014, 10:58 AM
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Join Date: Apr 9, 2011
Location: Out There...Somewhere....
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Originally Posted by Imatk
Price is the biggest factor I would imagine. It is for me anyway... I agree that 200 for a hhr is just silly.
The other things that were mentioned are true as well... Availability
But I would suspect its mostly price. Providers here tend to increase their rates because there are those that have either too much money or some other reason ( I don't know what that is) and they'll pay 200 for a hhr when the EXACT same level of service can be had for 80-100 an hour.
I keep reading posts like "I'll just stick with girls here" as if no girl on eccie ever screwed someone over or provided less than stellar service.
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I never pay 200 HHR. I have my limits on what I will invest, I know what I think is fair without being insulting.
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10-23-2014, 10:59 AM
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Very interesting points. I suspected price would be a huge factor as well as lack of screening. So a question to the gents, how or why do you not feel unsafe if you're not screened? If someone is willing to take you without info or references, that just seems downright reckless to me. But I suppose that's the adventure in it.
As a provider, my biggest gripes about BP are the character limits on posts and the censorship of text/photos. (No boobies or mention of the word Eccie.)
One other point of curiosity for both gents/providers. If you meet a new client/girl off of BP and you consider them to be a trust worthy individual, do you try and bring them into the Eccie fold or just leave them to thrive in the wilderness?
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10-23-2014, 11:21 AM
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Join Date: Mar 8, 2010
Location: Austin
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I don't think it's "the wilderness" at all for a monger. I agree with Whispers though... it's not a good idea unless you have a little experience under your belt.
It CAN be a wilderness if you are unprepared. But then so can Eccie.
There's a provider on here with a current ad that has more than one alert on her for ripping guys off. So again you need to do your homework.
That's the great thing about Eccie... we are a community of people who will let others know when someone screws them over... or gives them a great time.
I ALWAYS check here for ANY backpage girl AND Eccie girl so my methods aren't that different. And if there are no reviews I'll use other methods of trying to find out information before I go in.
I have gone in a couple times without any prior knowledge, but there are things I do to hedge my bets so that I'm safe that I'll not go into.
As far as the providers on BP being safe for screening... I don't know about that front. Maybe it is a wilderness for them, but I've never had a session where a BP provider was hoping for a safer environment.
I have had sessions where a provider has said, "Yeah I've heard of Eccie but just haven't signed up."
So I don't know how critical it is for a provider... I imagine you providers would know more about that
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10-23-2014, 12:53 PM
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Hope I haven't bored you!
Join Date: Apr 30, 2009
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Originally Posted by Miss Scarlet
Very interesting points. I suspected price would be a huge factor as well as lack of screening. So a question to the gents, how or why do you not feel unsafe if you're not screened? If someone is willing to take you without info or references, that just seems downright reckless to me. But I suppose that's the adventure in it.
None of you have my safety in mind darlin. That's a big misconception perpetuated by providers and screening services trying to make money.
There is nothing a girl can or will do that makes anything more safe for me than I can do for myself short of walking into a room I am waiting in, dropping her clothes and sucking me dry before saying hello. When she is naked and has my cum in her belly I am pretty confident I'm going to be OK.
As a provider, my biggest gripes about BP are the character limits on posts and the censorship of text/photos. (No boobies or mention of the word Eccie.)
One other point of curiosity for both gents/providers. If you meet a new client/girl off of BP and you consider them to be a trust worthy individual, do you try and bring them into the Eccie fold or just leave them to thrive in the wilderness?
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I'll tell a girl she should look into it and that's about it. How a lady runs her business is her business.
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10-23-2014, 01:04 PM
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Join Date: Jan 4, 2010
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Originally Posted by Miss Scarlet
Very interesting points. I suspected price would be a huge factor as well as lack of screening. So a question to the gents, how or why do you not feel unsafe if you're not screened? If someone is willing to take you without info or references, that just seems downright reckless to me. But I suppose that's the adventure in it.
Getting a reference is not a sure thing. A guy could have all the references in the world and still act a fool. I never understood how girls see guys with out speaking to them first. A pm and references is not all I need to see a guy. I need to talk to him and see if he is sober, how they speak to me ect. Also, every client was a newbie with no references at one point. However, I agree that having no info on a guy is reckless. So yes I screen. Think about it; when you meet a guy on a dating site, you don't ask for references. While you might be meeting in public for the first time and not at an incall, you talk to them, and get a feel for what kind of person he is. Unless he is a master psychopath you can pick up on context clues of if he is safe or not. Most ladies have a buddy system and tell a friend who-what-where-when.
I swear I could be a screening consultant (but the game is to be sold not told) but most ladies eventually figure out what works for them.
As a provider, my biggest gripes about BP are the character limits on posts and the censorship of text/photos. (No boobies or mention of the word Eccie.)
You still get calls without character limits, censored photos, and just mentioning you have reviews they can inquire about.
One other point of curiosity for both gents/providers. If you meet a new client/girl off of BP and you consider them to be a trust worthy individual, do you try and bring them into the Eccie fold or just leave them to thrive in the wilderness?
I have definitely brought many great clients to ECCIE.
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Give a round of applause to the newbie-friendly ladies!
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10-23-2014, 05:07 PM
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Join Date: Dec 31, 2009
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10-23-2014, 05:23 PM
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Join Date: Apr 9, 2011
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There are people I trust on here. Mongers & Hoogars. Whos references on a girl get me about 95% sure. If one of the girls I trust says "shes cool" I've never been mislead. Most times with the mongers its been a good experience as well although a couple of times it was "you really enjoyed her"?
Getting "screened" usually means "here are two references & I have 21 reviews". Only twice has a girl even bothered to call a reference.
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10-23-2014, 06:20 PM
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Join Date: Jan 7, 2010
Location: Austin
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Low Standards
Here's my different take. Some guys have low standards and are willing to settle for basic service at a discount. I mean seriously, what percentage of the women who advertise on BP are anything close to a top shelf experience? If a dude gets mechanical limited menu FS for $150-200, he's probably happy with that. Nobody really picky is trolling BP.
Full disclosure: I have (rarely) used BP before but you can be damn sure I was really hard up with no other options.
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10-23-2014, 08:25 PM
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Join Date: Jan 1, 2011
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Originally Posted by FloridaShark
Here's my different take. Some guys have low standards and are willing to settle for basic service at a discount. I mean seriously, what percentage of the women who advertise on BP are anything close to a top shelf experience? If a dude gets mechanical limited menu FS for $150-200, he's probably happy with that. Nobody really picky is trolling BP.
Full disclosure: I have (rarely) used BP before but you can be damn sure I was really hard up with no other options.
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You're really full of yourself, aren't you? You've just called several ladies here cheap ho's and every guy who does use BP on occasion low standard mongers. You're on a roll.
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10-24-2014, 08:25 PM
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You're really full of yourself, aren't you? You've just called several ladies here cheap ho's and every guy who does use BP on occasion low standard mongers. You're on a roll. 
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I kind of included myself in there too. Not above slumming when my standards plummet.
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10-24-2014, 09:10 PM
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Join Date: Mar 8, 2010
Location: Austin
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Originally Posted by FloridaShark
Here's my different take. Some guys have low standards and are willing to settle for basic service at a discount. I mean seriously, what percentage of the women who advertise on BP are anything close to a top shelf experience? If a dude gets mechanical limited menu FS for $150-200, he's probably happy with that. Nobody really picky is trolling BP.
Full disclosure: I have (rarely) used BP before but you can be damn sure I was really hard up with no other options.
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That's the point... you don't use BP very often so you really don't know what you're talking about.
You are under the IMPRESSION that you need to pay more then $200 to get a "top-shelf" experience.
Now I don't know what "top-shelf" means to you... but there are A LOT of providers here that IMHO are "top-shelf" that are at or below your $150 to $200
There are also A LOT of providers on BP that are "top-shelf" IMHO that are at or below your $150-$200.
Perhaps you're one of the deluded that thinks you have to pay over or at $300 an hour to get a girl who is both good looking and actually GOOD at providing.
I used to think that too... but I don't anymore.
Open your mind and expand your horizons and you'll soon find out the same. And then you'll be wondering why in the hell you kept spending $300 an hour when you could get the same service for less.
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10-24-2014, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by FloridaShark
I kind of included myself in there too. Not above slumming when my standards plummet.
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So all of you ladies who post on BP, whether occasionally or on a regular basis need to take special note of this handle FloridaShark so when/if he contacts you you will know that you are his plummeting, sub-standard, slumming choice. Thank you for making that perfectly clear sir.
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10-26-2014, 07:01 PM
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Join Date: Nov 27, 2012
Location: Austin
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Just chiming in with my two cents - for me, it's the lack of screening involved. I hobby only once in a while, and by the time I'm ready for an appointment, it is a guarantee that any ladies I've seen before have totally forgotten me, so I don't ever really have any references, and the alternate methods of screening that tend to be widely used give me the heeby-jeebies.
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10-26-2014, 08:43 PM
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Join Date: Sep 11, 2012
Location: Austin, TX
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Originally Posted by Samcro84
Don't do BP. Too many safer and awesome girls here on ECCIE and P411.
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Same here... Almost always a disappointment on BP!
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