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zeejoe · 10-22-2014, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by royamcr

Why the hell would you rape an escort? She is there for sex usually.... Maybe she wouldn't do bbbj and he got mad. Probably more likely he had no money and she wanted to leave and he turned on her. Crazy dude got nabbed before he could really hurt someone in the future.

Nah, this doesn't sound like an escort-client thing- this was a crazy motherfucker who ordered a victim like a pizza. Dude went to the hospital and told the cops he put bombs everywhere after they put the habeus-grabbus on him.

royamcr · 10-22-2014, 11:16 AM

Ya sounds more like a domestic terrorist.

JRLawrence · 10-22-2014, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Savannah Moon

Let's take a ride down memory lane. ..anyone familiar with BTK.. he had a trustworthy position with a church for 25 effing yrs!! And one thing I CAN Assure you of .. is that most psychopathic freaks can put on a show long enough to "fulfill"their desires ! Could have seen several women .. even collecting awesome references from model type escorts and still went where he did... !! Yes screening is helpful.. BUT reality is we still put ourselves in very dangerous situations with people we REALLY DON'T KNOW. So you meet a client on a semi regular basis say 2xs per month for what a year.. and you know them??? no you don't you know what they let you know or what they tell you you really don't know s*** about them and they really don't know s*** about us the only time you really know somebody is if you spend a lot of quality time with them and then as example I was using BTK ... do you really know them. if you think you do I'm not here to pop your illusion balloon , the point I am actually getting ready to make it is I am starting self defense classes if you have never taken any ladies and gentlemen I would highly recommend !highly recommend that you look into it at least. We are all important to somebody.. and at least care enough about you to be able to protect yourself so you can rest your head safely at the end of each day.. HUGS ♡ done lecturing for today .

Very good. It is suggested that one always talks with the other person by phone prior to meeting and get the mental feel of what the other person is like by the sound of the voice.

The tone, language, pitch and the content of the discussion can tell you a lot about the person. Listen to the little bird in your head; he will tell you about the other person. Or is that called the gut instinct. If it feels bad, walk away.

JR

bigryan2222 · 10-22-2014, 08:56 PM

Part of me wants to do something nice for the victim, but most of me thinks it's none of my business of who she was.

I have learned my version of being aggressive isn't near hobby standards of aggressiveness. I once told a girl I was in an aggressive mood and she basically told me I could beat the Shit out of her. That was one of two things that made me take a break from the hobby. I get pissed off just like everyone else, but I can understand hurting someone. I suppose some of it had to do with my size and the general feeling of control I have even when Shit hits the fan.

I will go wiwith he is a crazy motherfucker as well.

GiveMeLibertyOrGiveMeHead · 10-27-2014, 10:45 PM

My heart goes out to this woman and all rape victims. I will never understand sex offenders and hope that there is a special place in hell for them.

As far as screening goes, it may help out with sorting out LE, but some peoples crazy is impossible to detect. I was friends with a serial killer from around 16 to 25 and never realized. We sort of went our different ways and years later my parents called me to tell me he was all over the news. The fucked up thing is that his first victim was right around the time we met and the murder was extremely brutal. This was a kid that spent many days and nights at my parents house and they fed and cared for him. We were all shocked and had no clue how he could have hidden such a darkness from us.

It really is a fucked up world we all live in so be careful and self defense classes are not a bad idea at all.

Urban Dahlia · 10-28-2014, 01:19 PM

Thank God that escorts these days are becoming more Empowered, fighting back and are no longer staying silent about this type of abuse/violence.

This guy will get a taste of his own medicine when the guards leave him out in general population long enough.

Did anyone else see the Alert on Backpage as well as in your P411 inbox about that Gregory Lewis guy? I appreciate that people are starting to see escorts in a whole new light, and authorities are starting to look out for us like Gina/Lori do on P411 and the many others here on ECCIE.
Link: http://kc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts...rt-41/14934403

Guest013121 · 10-28-2014, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

Thank God that escorts these days are becoming more Empowered, fighting back and are no longer staying silent about this type of abuse/violence.

This guy will get a taste of his own medicine when the guards leave him out in general population long enough.

Did anyone else see the Alert on Backpage as well as in your P411 inbox about that Gregory Lewis guy? I appreciate that people are starting to see escorts in a whole new light, and authorities are starting to look out for us like Gina/Lori do on P411 and the many others here on ECCIE.
Link: http://kc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts...rt-41/14934403

Gina and her staff of wonderful ladies ARE awesome about keeping us ladies safe and updated with anything new or alerting.

Urban Dahlia · 10-29-2014, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemma34

Gina and her staff of wonderful ladies ARE awesome about keeping us ladies safe and updated with anything new or alerting.

Yes, sorry, I meant the whole staff. I have only spoken to Gina and Lori, and was a mistake leaving everyone else out. I am certain it takes more than two people to run their business as wonderfully as they do.

It is with Unity that we all stay Safe.

Zeeba Neighba · 10-30-2014, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

I appreciate that people are starting to see escorts in a whole new light, and authorities are starting to look out for us like Gina/Lori do on P411 and the many others here on ECCIE.

That's the whole reason I posted this and started this thread.

I ran track and cross country for a Division I university. We always looked out for the girls on the women's team and we were quite protective of them. We saw it as a "we're all in this together" situation and I see the providers much the same way. We're all playing the same game and we ALL - guy and gals alike - need to watch out for each other.

malwoody · 10-30-2014, 09:27 AM

When it is suspected by the sanctimonious among us that a girl has a driver/pimp/mentor..or whatever, the holier than thou crowd gets all critical..

If this victim would have had security, maybe the coward who attacked her would have gotten his...

ijs

thebuffmantraples · 10-30-2014, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by malwoody

When it is suspected by the sanctimonious among us that a girl has a driver/pimp/mentor..or whatever, the holier than thou crowd gets all critical..

If this victim would have had security, maybe the coward who attacked her would have gotten his...

ijs

I believe that's a whole different issue that mostly correlates with the legal discussion. Cause those safety guys commit more heinous crimes then they prevent, too both parties?
We could talk about a list of appointment verifications services to protect both parties that would serve much better then a pimp. Come on.. Do you see where it leads? The system is kind of here an there already (eckiy, agencies, You see yet!) None of it will prevent the heinous actions.. I wish the girls could all beat him with a bat.. But the pimp argument its baseless to be nice about it..

zeejoe · 10-30-2014, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by malwoody

When it is suspected by the sanctimonious among us that a girl has a driver/pimp/mentor..or whatever, the holier than thou crowd gets all critical..

If this victim would have had security, maybe the coward who attacked her would have gotten his...

ijs

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Originally Posted by thebuffmantraples

I believe that's a whole different issue that mostly correlates with the legal discussion. Cause those safety guys commit more heinous crimes then they prevent, too both parties?
We could talk about a list of appointment verifications services to protect both parties that would serve much better then a pimp. Come on.. Do you see where it leads? The system is kind of here an there already (eckiy, agencies, You see yet!) None of it will prevent the heinous actions.. I wish the girls could all beat him with a bat.. But the pimp argument its baseless to be nice about it..

What in MW's statement was factually incorrect?

malwoody · 10-30-2014, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by thebuffmantraples

I believe that's a whole different issue that mostly correlates with the legal discussion. Cause those safety guys commit more heinous crimes then they prevent, too both parties?
We could talk about a list of appointment verifications services to protect both parties that would serve much better then a pimp. Come on.. Do you see where it leads? The system is kind of here an there already (eckiy, agencies, You see yet!) None of it will prevent the heinous actions.. I wish the girls could all beat him with a bat.. But the pimp argument its baseless to be nice about it..

Okay, since you fixated on "pimp" and not on any of the other words I have one question. If your SO, sister, mother, daughter or just a female friend was going to see someone she met online, would you just drop her off and forget about it? And if Clouseau saw you and ran to eccie to say he saw yet another pimp, would that shoe fit? You seem to know a lot about these "safety guys", tell us more about your experiences. Go ahead, you can be candid.

thebuffmantraples · 10-30-2014, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by malwoody

Okay, since you fixated on "pimp" and not on any of the other words I have one question. If your SO, sister, mother, daughter or just a female friend was going to see someone she met online, would you just drop her off and forget about it? And if Clouseau saw you and ran to eccie to say he saw yet another pimp, would that shoe fit? You seem to know a lot about these "safety guys", tell us more about your experiences. Go ahead, you can be candid.

I've had girls delivered by driver,friend, agency confirmed(aint no body purfect, so long as someone knows something).and don't go on a tangent asking a dmnb?

The pimp and everything it stands for is wrong. You know that, the history is there. Hell, you know that better then I. Its cool to sympathize but the jab.. Well that ain't cool.
No holy nothin either..
Go ahead.

ElumEno · 10-30-2014, 12:07 PM

I too do not like the concept of supporting the stereotypical pimp... on the other hand, most of these women are adults and capable of making their own decisions in life.
So who am I (or anyone for that matter) to dictate how they spend the money that they earn... once they earn it, it is theirs to do with as they like, no matter how that might be.

Does that mean that I will see a girl that is known to be "pimped"... most likely NO, but there is a difference between being pimped and having security/management.
unfortunately there are those that can not or will not understand what that difference is and no matter what or who they might see... they will always scream PIMP!

This guy (and I use that word lightly) that got arrested is one of the good reasons why girls decide to hire security/drivers/agencies or go to pimps for protection.