Hagglers - what is it they really want?

[Camille Fox]

Originally Posted by siberia

Camille is sexy.
Who could argue
with her. IJS

Thanks, beautiful...




what's your cut, Bayou Lady? Orca and Hardhat are doing good, aren't they?

[Camille Fox]

Originally Posted by Sjc21108

I didn't read it all either cause I'm not that bored. Can someone help me out and tell me what IYNHO means? Google couldn't.

If Google doesn't know, God hasn't create it yet.

[siberia]

In your ? Honest opinion

[Guest030816]

In the welcome wagon tonight, s lovely lady was considering visiting Houston. I checked her showcase and her rate was 350hr, but with only one review, which didn't offer much information. While I'm posting to tell her she was on the upper end of the scale, she posted her travel rates would be $400hr. I was not trying to haggle with her, but I was trying to alert her that she would have a difficult time at that rate without having a proven track record.
My point is, there are ways to discuss rates without negotiating, trying to 'get a better deal'. Do you want to get a deal or do you want to have a good time? You can have a good time for less with girls that offer the better deal you seek. But Upscale Ladies, offer consistent quality service, and more often than not top the charts in the looks dept. That's why they charge what they do, and that's why they shouldn't have to tolerate someone who is offering less.

[Guest030816]

Originally Posted by siberia

In your ? Honest opinion

Camille,
My cut is 30/70
They mainly need a ride.

Ya'll wanna put that in private hoe tags?
Take it to the powder room?
I don't need everybody knowing my business...
And Siberia... You told me that was for gas money.

[siberia]

I sorry, ^^^^it vanished.

[Sjc21108]

Originally Posted by H.Hardhat

In the welcome wagon tonight, s lovely lady was considering visiting Houston. I checked her showcase and her rate was 350hr, but with only one review, which didn't offer much information. While I'm posting to tell her she was on the upper end of the scale, she posted her travel rates would be $400hr. I was not trying to haggle with her, but I was trying to alert her that she would have a difficult time at that rate without having a proven track record..

She would have difficult time with you. You are an expert on what whores should charge? How do you know she would have a difficult time? I love it when dudes come on here and make themselves out to be experts on pussy economics.

[siberia]

He didn't imply he was an expert but merely gave an opinion on many factors. Reading is your best friend
and men have mentioned about a
providers proven track record in correlation to the fees that justifies
the service.
Sjc, how many women have you seen
at $400 hr? None. Read your reviews
and you don't have room to talk.
You may think multiples hours is
getting your moneys worth, but
you still divide the total amount
by the hour & it is far less than
$400.
Do the math.

[Guest030816]

Originally Posted by Sjc21108

She would have difficult time with you. You are an expert on what whores should charge? How do you know she would have a difficult time? I love it when dudes come on here and make themselves out to be experts on pussy economics.

And in a PM I told her to look at the other ads and see what the going rate was. If you've observed a lot of the WW ads the guys will comment a lot on the prices the new providers are asking. I believe my advise was not without merit, but also told the young lady to do her research. I'd just hate for her to make the trip and be disappointed by her reception. Check the ad, she appreciated my comment... more than you did btw

[Eva Damita]

Originally Posted by H.Hardhat

In the welcome wagon tonight, s lovely lady was considering visiting Houston. I checked her showcase and her rate was 350hr, but with only one review, which didn't offer much information. While I'm posting to tell her she was on the upper end of the scale, she posted her travel rates would be $400hr. I was not trying to haggle with her, but I was trying to alert her that she would have a difficult time at that rate without having a proven track record.
My point is, there are ways to discuss rates without negotiating, trying to 'get a better deal'. Do you want to get a deal or do you want to have a good time? You can have a good time for less with girls that offer the better deal you seek. But Upscale Ladies, offer consistent quality service, and more often than not top the charts in the looks dept. That's why they charge what they do, and that's why they shouldn't have to tolerate someone who is offering less.

I'm not going to lie, but I dislike business warnings like these - claiming a lady 300+ won't do "well" ... providers like her sell discretion to NON-HOBBYISTS, who happen to make great clientele by not being jaded. Here's a news flash: professional johns and career johns often do not attract Courtesans, discreet providers, and whatever one considers to be high dollar , and vice versa.

By the time you sent her your "advice", I guarantee you she already had $500+ in deposits reserving her visit and covering travel expenses. Doing well for her is likely not seeing more than 1-3 guys a day, if that.
At $400, I'll assume she has a multi hour rate which is less than $400 per hour - incentive to book multi hour affairs, and overnights.

Sometimes, gents are blind to the fact that women price their time according to their desired target market or to filter out the man on a budget, creeps,timewasters, and career hobbyist. Not every hooker wants to lay down with just anybody. It gets really old playing the "how many dicks can I possibly fuck in a day" game. One evolves and works "smarter"

Also, there are men who are turned off with a track record and kiss and tell paper trail. There are gents who won't see ladies under a price of $XYZ. There are also COUNTLESS guys who'll not just pay her rate, but tip her double. It happens all the time.

Like anything, there's levels to this business...

[Wakeup]

Originally Posted by H.Hardhat

I was not trying to haggle with her, but I was trying to alert her that she would have a difficult time at that rate without having a proven track record.

You would be massively mistaken...

[siberia]

Originally Posted by Wakeup

You would be massively mistaken...

Coming from a guy with
(Cough) 4 reviews. Surreee.

Even MOST of the high dollar ladies have 1/2 hr sessions. The reviews
will soon tell.IJS
Patient grasshopper.

[Guest072624]

Ive had my share of men attempting to go back & forth on rates. Now i just dont even entertain it. There are plenty of providers who offer something different. ��

[Eva Damita]

Originally Posted by siberia

Coming from a guy with
(Cough) 4 reviews. Surreee.

Even MOST of the high dollar ladies have 1/2 hr sessions. The reviews
will soon tell.IJS
Patient grasshopper.

I'm starting to see a pattern of disdain for providers you consider high dollar in your replies on the board ...as your reply had nothing to do with haggling and the convo on whether a lady with a $400 rate can do well and prosper. Instead, you saw an opportunity to take a shot on whether HDH have 30 minute sessions or not...it's like you're on a crusade to change the HDH profile...from the BNG thread all the way to this one.

If you're gathering your "Even most high dollar ladies have 1/2 hr sessions" info from the board, A) ECCIE is not a source for HDH, and B) HDH typically aren't into many reviews or review boards PERIOD. So to me, with the oxymoronic statement above, you're coming off as a tad bitter instead of factual.

I'm not a HDH (in my opinion) but I certainly can identify that half hours are NOT offered by MOST high dollar hotties.

What's really goin' on? Just trying to understand. . .

[RandB fan]

IYNHO=IN YOUR NONE HUMBLE OPINION

I should have spelled it out once. my apology.


In this case fancy is trying to defend her rates yet I can't find anyone who has paid them, not here and not published on her own web site. Both her profile and web site states $250 an hour yet There is not a single review, that I have seen, that reflects that amount. These are the newest (cough) from her web site. I assume it has not been updated for some time but does include several from 2013 and 2014.I didn't see one review posted on her where the monger paid her posted rate including first time mongers who got a better rate than $250 she so vigilantly defended as non negotiable calling out those who did so. This is a list of rates/ durations from her reviews, that she published, and as you can see they are all discounted from her stated rate and lots of specials are noted.

Date: Feb . '14 Session Length: 1 hour. Fee: $200.
Cost of service: 2 hours $300...
Session Length: 1 Hour. Fee: $150.00 Special.
Session Length: 30 min. Fee: $100.
Session Length: 2 hours. Fee: $300
Session Length: 3 hrs. Fee: $350 (ECCIE-only member special)
Session Length: 3 hrs. Fee: $400.
Session Length: 2 hr. Fee: $240 special
Session Length: 1 hr. (Went over.) Fee: $200
Session Length: 2 hrs. Fee: $300.
Session Length: 3 hrs. Fee: $400
5 hours....$500 + groceries
Session Length: 1 hour. Fee: $150 special
3 hours for $300

I am sorry, no I am not, but when someone goes on a rant because someone asked if terms were negotiable (AKA HAGGLE) yet she has ZERO reviews for her full rate it is hypocritical. I feel she should redact her comments and come to an understanding that if you publish accepted rates that are far lower than your stated rate it then becomes an asking rate and open for discussion AKA Haggling.