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				As long as neither side respects the right of the other to be there, it will never work. 
			
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Does Israel (and I mean the government position, not radicals in Israel) fail to "respect" the "right" of the Palestinian people to live on the ground identified as "the State of Palestine"? And if you believe Israel ( as defined) doesn't respect that "right," then please direct my attention to the policy statement of the government of Israel that discloses the conclusion.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-08-2015, 07:38 AM
			
			
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			Like all Obama initiatives; the deal is based on a lie....and being sold to the American public with more lies.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-08-2015, 08:47 AM
			
			
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				Like all Obama initiatives; the deal is based on a lie....and being sold to the American public with more lies. 
			
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The VERY same can be said for you, Whir-LIE-turd.  Except you're just a tin-horn jihadist posting on a hooker board.
 
Where's the link to MLK's quote condemning illegal IMMIGRATION?
 
Where's your explanation for posting a photo of Israeli rockets hitting Gaza and calling it Jerusalem?
 
Why not start with those, whor-LIE-turd.  You're a fucking cartoon character of a latter day Archie Bunker.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-08-2015, 09:42 AM
			
			
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				Like all Obama initiatives; the deal is based on a lie....and being sold to the American public with more lies. 
			
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Headline ... Obamacare penalty just doubled!!!!! Effective Feb 22nd.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-08-2015, 10:45 AM
			
			
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				Sure you knew that buddy!  
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Ooops! My bad! I forgot how many things that are common knowledge to the rest of humanity are completely foreign and incognito to shammy the retard!
 
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				I believe they each tested their first devices a little less than 4 years apart so they were both racing towards the same goal. 
			
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India first tested the bomb in 1974. Pakistan followed in 1998. That's 24 years apart, not 4. What's wrong with you people? That's my fourth factual correction in this thread.
 
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				It was the Oslo Accords of 93, under Clinton, that established the Palestinian Authority which led to elections. And 10 short years later, Hamas is elected and in the West they are scratching their heads and wondering why they would do such a thing....We are unable to see things from their perspective and thereby fail to truly grasp the entire situation... 
			
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While the Oslo accords were signed under Clinton, the negotiations began and most of the diplomatic heavy lifting occurred under Bush I. Those accords didn't really start unraveling until after Israeli Premier Yitzak Rabin was assassinated by a right-wing Jew in 1995. As far as I am concerned, the Palestinians are their own worst enemy. They could have won over hearts and minds in the West and obtained their fucking homeland years ago if they had simply followed the MLK/Gandhi precepts of non-violent civil disobedience. But they would rather blow themselves up and call themselves "victims" than learn to live side by side with the Jews. Yes, I understand their pathology - what you call their "perspective" - quite well.
 
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			04-08-2015, 11:01 AM
			
			
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Apparently, humanity doesn't include you. Which is why you referred to the Pakistani nukes as "sunni bombs" and then had to backtrack your ass all over it. You are a pathetic little amateur.
 
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Keep reading that wikipedia article lusty. It has lots of information you need to learn!   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-08-2015, 11:38 AM
			
			
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				Apparently, humanity doesn't include you. Which is why you referred to the Pakistani nukes as "sunni bombs" and then had to backtrack your ass all over it. You are a pathetic little amateur. 
			
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WTF are you babbling about now, shamworm? Nobody backtracked. I said it twice already and I'll say it here again - Pakistan is a predominantly Sunni country and it has the bomb. Just about everyone on the planet knows that except you, assup/shammytard. Evidently you are a pitiful little worm who can't read or comprehend properly. So you make things up instead. Even if you miraculously figured out how to read, your ADD combined with your colossal stupidity make you unfit to learn anything.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-08-2015, 11:45 AM
			
			
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				...your ADD combined with your colossal stupidity make you unfit to learn anything. 
			
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Of course, he must digest the notion that he needs to "learn anything"!~
  
His mommy has done him a disservice. Or is that .... "mumsy"?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Ooops! My bad! I forgot how many things that are common knowledge to the rest of humanity are completely foreign and incognito to shammy the retard! 
 
 
 
 
India first tested the bomb in 1974. Pakistan followed in 1998. That's 24 years apart, not 4. What's wrong with you people? That's my fourth factual correction in this thread. 
 
 
 
 
 
While the Oslo accords were signed under Clinton, the negotiations began and most of the diplomatic heavy lifting occurred under Bush I. Those accords didn't really start unraveling until after Israeli Premier Yitzak Rabin was assassinated by a right-wing Jew in 1995. As far as I am concerned, the Palestinians are their own worst enemy. They could have won over hearts and minds in the West and obtained their fucking homeland years ago if they had simply followed the MLK/Gandhi precepts of non-violent civil disobedience. But they would rather blow themselves up and call themselves "victims" than learn to live side by side with the Jews. Yes, I understand their pathology - what you call their "perspective" - quite well. 
 
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1998 was their first public test. They began testing their designs back in the late 70s, 1978 to be exact. That was the year they first tested their implosion design. It was actually 1983 when they carried out their first successful cold test of a nuclear device. If you want to get specific. Are we keeping score? That's my first factual correction in this thread.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				1998 was their first public test. They began testing their designs back in the late 70s, 1978 to be exact. That was the year they first tested their implosion design. It was actually 1983 when they carried out their first successful cold test of a nuclear device. If you want to get specific. Are we keeping score? That's my first factual correction in this thread. 
			
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Don't mind him. This probably wasn't mentioned in the wikipedia article  that LustyIdiot was using. 
 
Even if it was, he is too dumb to be able to read it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-08-2015, 03:10 PM
			
			
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				Does Israel (and I mean the government position, not radicals in Israel) fail to "respect" the "right" of the Palestinian people to live on the ground identified as "the State of Palestine"? And if you believe Israel ( as defined) doesn't respect that "right," then please direct my attention to the policy statement of the government of Israel that discloses the conclusion. 
			
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Once you start parsing, your argument is cracking.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			04-08-2015, 03:39 PM
			
			
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That was no "argument" ... that was a rhetorical question. You avoided it.
 
It's really simply ... point to the Israeli government action that disrespected the Palestinians' "right" to peacefully co-existence beside Israel. If you can't respond to the point in a factual manner, then it speaks for itself.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				That was no "argument" ... that was a rhetorical question. You avoided it. 
 
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You and the other guy, forget his name, seem to be suffering from the same syntax problem. I'm guessing you meant 'simple'. An act that disrespects the Palestinians... hmmmm... I would say building a wall could be construed as the act you're looking for. It was most certainly carried out by the government, not 'radicals' as you required in your original 'rhetorical' query.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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