Donations BEFORE or AFTER The Session..

[ElisabethWhispers]

Originally Posted by Lust4xxxLife

With me, it's simple. If I am visiting a provider at her incall, the envelope is put on a table right away and she can check it or not and do with it as she pleases. If it's her incall, she isn't going to dash. If it's a hotel room, I put the envelope down and she can check it if she pleases, but the envelope stays in sight on the table. If I have to use the restroom to freshen up at the beginning of an appointment, the envelope goes with me and she can check it again when I return. There should be no awkwardness in Providers or Clients protecting themselves from being ripped off, especially given how many of both are out there trying to do just that.

I used to NEVER ask for the fee upfront. I thought of it as being rather tasteless.

But that has changed for me. Now, I ask. Even with my regular client base. There are a few exceptions, but just a few.

Over the past few years, the attitudes of the general client base has changed dramatically. I've had REGULAR clients short me, or tell me that "they'll catch up with me," for the shorted amount at a later date. That is really unacceptable to me.

A few months ago, and I wonder if he's on this board, I saw a guy and it was a new client. I asked for the fee upfront.

And he declined.

So here I am. At MY incall (not a hotel) and I've been around forever. Does anyone think that I'm going to rip someone off for time? Really?

And he just said no, that he wasn't going to do that. Then, I suggested he lay down half (or something) since by this time, I was getting nervous. And he declined again.

Well, this was a new one. So I asked him to leave.

He left. After begging for a bit. It was a REALLY uncomfortable situation.

I figured that he had some sort of game that he was trying to play.

I'm old school, as in old school like the ASPD heck, I know you and we're friends and of course you'll pay me, right? Well, that is no longer my attitude. I don't LIKE asking for the funds upfront but I'm realistic. This is a business and for now, and for myself, the parameters have changed.

I'm even hearing of old school clients, ones that have been around the block like I have been, playing a bunch of games.

So I'm keeping it simple. Collect the funds upfront. Get that ugly business part out of the way, and then ... play.

If someone is offended by my new "rule" then so be it. I wouldn't have changed the way that I do things if the current climate didn't require it.

Good topic. It's been done before. But I think that every once in awhile, this needs to be discussed.

Best,
Elisabeth

[Nina the Dicknapper]

Originally Posted by davidfree986

Paying the donation before or after is not a reflection of one's character, and you are a dirtbag if you do not like paying upfront? Get real. I have never not paid the provider, even if the service was bad in my opinion.

No one was talking about playing keep away with the funds and not one provider has ever asked me for the donation, except for the ones that demanded it upfront and burned me.

As far as what I said about the OP in my last post (#129) of her having to answer general ISO threads for business, it looks like I was right as to this date and time, those have been her only posts besides in this thread.

What's your issue with me posting in the request forum? I'm advertising my business and it always works . there r many ladies that post in the request forum as well. Do u have an issue with them too?

[Nina the Dicknapper]

Originally Posted by ElisabethWhispers

I used to NEVER ask for the fee upfront. I thought of it as being rather tasteless.

But that has changed for me. Now, I ask. Even with my regular client base. There are a few exceptions, but just a few.

Over the past few years, the attitudes of the general client base has changed dramatically. I've had REGULAR clients short me, or tell me that "they'll catch up with me," for the shorted amount at a later date. That is really unacceptable to me.

A few months ago, and I wonder if he's on this board, I saw a guy and it was a new client. I asked for the fee upfront.

And he declined.

So here I am. At MY incall (not a hotel) and I've been around forever. Does anyone think that I'm going to rip someone off for time? Really?

And he just said no, that he wasn't going to do that. Then, I suggested he lay down half (or something) since by this time, I was getting nervous. And he declined again.

Well, this was a new one. So I asked him to leave.

He left. After begging for a bit. It was a REALLY uncomfortable situation.

I figured that he had some sort of game that he was trying to play.

I'm old school, as in old school like the ASPD heck, I know you and we're friends and of course you'll pay me, right? Well, that is no longer my attitude. I don't LIKE asking for the funds upfront but I'm realistic. This is a business and for now, and for myself, the parameters have changed.

I'm even hearing of old school clients, ones that have been around the block like I have been, playing a bunch of games.

So I'm keeping it simple. Collect the funds upfront. Get that ugly business part out of the way, and then ... play.

If someone is offended by my new "rule" then so be it. I wouldn't have changed the way that I do things if the current climate didn't require it.

Good topic. It's been done before. But I think that every once in awhile, this needs to be discussed.

Best,
Elisabeth

Wow im sorry that happened to u. Seems like he was on some BS to me. And I also agree if u dont want to see because of my policy than so be it. U will be missing out

[wellendowed1911]

Here's a prime example of why women should get their money up from unless they are very familiar with the client: http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/video...63R2ayD8b402n2
Although I don't recommend any provider going to this extreme to get their money- this could have ended badly.

[Nina the Dicknapper]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Here's a prime example of why women should get their money up from unless they are very familiar with the client: http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/video...63R2ayD8b402n2
Although I don't recommend any provider going to this extreme to get their money- this could have ended badly.

Lmao! That part "get out for we kill u" is hilarious. Just pay up so u won't have to kill nobody lol

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by Nina_Love

Lmao! That part "get out for we kill u" is hilarious. Just pay up so u won't have to kill nobody lol

Correct had she got her money before activities were rendered the situation would have never happened- they looked like "clean cut" guys- but you can't trust anyone these days- so that's why I don't have issues with ladies getting their money upfront.

[Guest070818-1]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Correct had she got her money before activities were rendered the situation would have never happened- they looked like "clean cut" guys- but you can't trust anyone these days- so that's why I don't have issues with ladies getting their money upfront.

They didn't look or sound like clean cut guys to me. The way that they were speaking to the woman was akin to speech of low-life thugs. No respect.

Lastly, it didn't help that the woman voluntarily jumped in a car full of strange people. She could've been kidnapped, raped, and killed. Very dumb decision on her part IMHO.

I would've just busted a window out the car and called it even.

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by Adrienne Baptiste

They didn't look like clean cut guys to me. Also, the way that they were speaking to the woman was akin to speech of low-life thugs. No respect.

Lastly, it doesn't help that the woman voluntarily jumped in a car full of people. She could've been kidnapped, raped, and killed. Very dumb decision on her part IMHO.

Yeah you are correct, but unfortunately some providers think if you have a certain skin complexion that you are more apt to pull stunts like this- but the bigger issue is those guys would have had no issues seeing a provider with NBA policy and look at what happened. However, I would guess that the provider probably has a pimp I mean to jump in a car with 3 guys you don't know for 100 dollars is just asking for trouble on so many levels. It's also sad that 3 guys would pull shit like this- I mean jeez pay the girl the 100 dollars.

[Guest070818-1]

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Yeah you are correct, but unfortunately some providers think if you have a certain skin complexion that you are more apt to pull stunts like this- but the bigger issue is those guys would have had no issues seeing a provider with NBA policy and look at what happened. However, I would guess that the provider probably has a pimp I mean to jump in a car with 3 guys you don't know for 100 dollars is just asking for trouble on so many levels. It's also sad that 3 guys would pull shit like this- I mean jeez pay the girl the 100 dollars.

The unfortunate reality is that there are some women in the industry who can't think for themselves, especially when they are in such a defenseless situation.

Then there are the men who prey upon the dumb and naive.

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by Adrienne Baptiste

The unfortunate reality is that there are some women in the industry who can't think for themselves, especially when they are in such a defenseless situation.

Then there are the men who prey upon the dumb and naive.

+100000 and that was the equation that just happened- She should have known something can go wrong when there's 3 clients. I mean seriously I can't see myself bringing 2 other friends with me to whatever type session and the lady if she doesn't know me and it wasn't a scheduled "gangbang" not think something is more than likely going to go wrong- the guys clearly had the upper hand: manpower, strength in numbers and means of a quick escape.

[Randall Creed]

It's the uncultured fools that make this shit hard. Warren Sapp's broadcast career is virtually over, because he didn't want to pay. While these guys aren't high profile like he was, you still don't want the situation to spill out of the room. These types think paying for pussy is beneath them. This whole, macho, 'fuck deez hoes' mantra (their words, not mine) really just makes the game hard for everybody. 99% of us want to just do the thing and be done. But you always got that 1% that's got to 'keep it real' or keep it 'gangsta', or keep it '100', or whatever the hell they call these days.

If you're that badass, or that much of a macho, balling, pussy getter, then why bother escorts at all.

[AsianChampagne]

that depends how long I know the costumer !

[AsianChampagne]

Originally Posted by AsianChampagne

that depends how long I know the costumer !