Do you negotiate?

[Guest092216]

Originally Posted by MovieMan300

Just to steer this back on subject... from my experience the only thing typically negotiiable is overnights. And this is after a trust has usually been built between both parties. I would never ask for lower rates on hrs , because personally I feel it's not respectful. I've had discounts applied in the room though, where a certain amount was given back, and my jaw hit the floor. First time that happened I was a little mindblown.

I've negotiated longer sessions as well. I see nothing wrong with offering a discount for extended time or travel.

And yes I have given money back before if something unexpected came up or the session went badly because of me. It happens. No one is perfect.

Maxi, you really need to chill the fuck out. I simply pointed out that it could be any one trying to hack your bp account. That's the price you pay when you get loud and mouthy on these boards. I speak from experience. If you can't take (or don't want) the heat then get out of the line of fire.

Your diatribes aren't going to change anything for good or worse. The only thing you're doing is wasting your own time that could be spent doing much better things. Again, I'm speaking from experience...take from it what you will.

[MaxiMilyen]

Originally Posted by Reese Foster

I'm always Honey and Sugar.. thank you very much.

It has nothing to do with what I need to make that month...and everything to do with enjoying this hobby and not thinking I am too good to offer a hand to a sincere gentleman. (Not saying ladies that don't sometimes negotiate, feel that way.) In fact, I have offered huge discounts at times..just because I appreciate these guys and the fact that they chose me out of hundreds of ladies.

I don't really think it is fair for you to speak for me. I have yet to receive one PM or email requesting anything other than my time when I come to town next week.
Give the guys here some credit.. the good guys far outweigh the assholes.

I would rather meet a nice guy that may need a little discount than a time wasting, immature jerk any day.

Just like a guy can contact me and ask for a discount.. I can say no. I don't mind getting Pm's. Like I said, I actually enjoy the hobby and the people I meet. The ignore option is always available if I feel harassed.

Anyway, please keep me out of your drama.


Guys, if you negotiate just because that is what you do....then more power to you. If you find ladies to play along.. great! Just don't be a jerk about it.

I know you do, but we all can't, even if we want to. Life is not fair..I get it. You are always very nice and sorry, but you chimed in, so I used what you said in order to make a point. It is what it is. I know you want to be the sweet one, honey. And I got nothing against that. I want to be the sweet one all the time too, but I don't see many others chiming in. I know what you go through, even if your business model is different than mine. If was attacking you, I would have said something when I saw your first post. You coulda been any lady saying that and I would have used it, so don't take it personal. It wasn't. Just as I know you didn't mean to make it seem like I was B, because I won't. Fact is, you don't want to negotiate your value any more than anyone else here...if you do, my mistake and I'll tell everyone for you that you will let them talk you down. k? I aim to please everyone too, believe it or not.

Guys, I got your number, and sweeter is nicer but it's still kinda jerky to tell me I ain't worth it. And, it's even kinda jerky to con Reese, THN or any lady when you poor sugar on it. If they tell you they are willing, then go for it. I have no stake in their biz, but I'm pretty sure they would rather make their fee more often than not. So, why even do it?

[Guest100416]

Originally Posted by thathottnurse

I've negotiated longer sessions as well. I see nothing wrong with offering a discount for extended time or travel.

And yes I have given money back before if something unexpected came up or the session went badly because of me. It happens. No one is perfect.

Yeah, circumstances are inevitably unpredictable. It happens.

The time it happened to me, the said provider didn't have something come up. She had a newbie rate, which I now think was basically just an asshole tax incase the session was horrible. Soon as it wrapped, she pulled out a certain amount and handed it back to me... and I mean she handed back a lot. I was somewhat frozen and a little stunned cuz I didn't know how to react to having money given back to me.

[MaxiMilyen]

Originally Posted by thathottnurse

I've negotiated longer sessions as well. I see nothing wrong with offering a discount for extended time or travel.

And yes I have given money back before if something unexpected came up or the session went badly because of me. It happens. No one is perfect.

Maxi, you really need to chill the fuck out. I simply pointed out that it could be any one trying to hack your bp account. That's the price you pay when you get loud and mouthy on these boards. I speak from experience. If you can't take (or don't want) the heat then get out of the line of fire.

Your diatribes aren't going to change anything for good or worse. The only thing you're doing is wasting your own time that could be spent doing much better things. Again, I'm speaking from experience...take from it what you will.

Yes ma'am. You must know better than I, so I'm all in. Any other directives? I have tried with you, but yes it's twue twue....I rarely pay you attention for reasons I'd rather not post for the whole world to see. Because I don't have a beef with you even if ya got one with me. If you just have to reproach me, so everyone knows you are the ONE...please do so, but then you should be the one to put yourself out there for the cussing and ranting that goes on, when clarifying what NO lady here wants to happen and simply is not true. Otherwise...your welcome, ma'am.

You have no idea what my words will or will not do, but I know what his will and not just to me. Lack of action causes chaos for all of us. He says it, another says it, and before ya know it, some really helpful guy puts up a site on how to negotiate with any provider. Then they are all proudly sharing their techniques and how to do it and it's the only way to go. But hey, you probably figured this out for yourself, right. Suck it up, The One...or get off my back.

[Guest092216]

Lord...

Nevermind, hon. As you were.

[MaxiMilyen]

Originally Posted by thathottnurse

Lord...

I agree... You are the first person on this thread that really upset me. And I can't figure out who in the world you think you are to address me in that manner. I'd appreciate if you didn't, because I recall a time something you paid no attention to could have done the same thing as what this guy said. I get, it bothers you to get called on it, but you lost your mind much like he did. I don't get why you didn't comprehend what ya did at the time. I thought it was kind of pissy and selfish of you at the time.

So yeah....

I don't get you at all...I'd prefer to help than hurt, so it confuses me that so many are oblivious about they say. One liners don't work...not for anyone. Stay away from me, or I'll be clear with you. We both know you don't like that and you certainly don't like me ignoring you. You can't have both.

[Guest062124]

Originally Posted by MaxiMilyen

I know you do, but we all can't, even if we want to. Life is not fair..I get it. You are always very nice and sorry, but you chimed in, so I used what you said in order to make a point.

So what was your point again? That I will sometimes offer someone who needs a discount a discount? Sometimes being the operative word. IF I want to. I am sure there are lots of ladies who do the same thing. Our business, our choice. Your preaching to the ECCIE community, isn't going to change it. Guys have been negotiating since I started way back. At least now they are open about it...so the ladies that don't want to deal with it can avoid them.

Originally Posted by MaxiMilyen

It is what it is. I know you want to be the sweet one, honey. And I got nothing against that. I want to be the sweet one all the time too, but I don't see many others chiming in. I know what you go through, even if your business model is different than mine. If was attacking you, I would have said something when I saw your first post. You coulda been any lady saying that and I would have used it, so don't take it personal. It wasn't. Just as I know you didn't mean to make it seem like I was B, because I won't.

You made it personal when you put words in my mouth. Honestly, I think its funny that you think you know what I want and think.

Originally Posted by MaxiMilyen

Fact is, you don't want to negotiate your value any more than anyone else here...if you do, my mistake and I'll tell everyone for you that you will let them talk you down. k? I aim to please everyone too, believe it or not.

My value is what I set it at, at any given time. If I charged someone 100 less than what my rate is.. that doesn't mean that I think I am less of a hooker for it. Of course, that is how I feel about it and in the end since it is my body, my mind and my business, that is all that matters. For the last time.... I don't need you to be my mouthpiece.. I say what I need to say all by myself and I believe I did it just fine.

My clients have been friends of mine for a long time. The majority of them pay my full rate, even when I increased them, and didn't bat an eye..so I have been blessed plenty. I practice paying it forward as much as possible.. in RL and in the hobby. If you don't like it, that would be your issue.

Originally Posted by MaxiMilyen

Guys, I got your number, and sweeter is nicer but it's still kinda jerky to tell me I ain't worth it. And, it's even kinda jerky to con Reese, THN or any lady when you poor sugar on it. If they tell you they are willing, then go for it. I have no stake in their biz, but I'm pretty sure they would rather make their fee more often than not. So, why even do it?

I'm not conned easily...so you can stick that passive aggressive shit where the sun doesn't shine.


This is supposed to be fun...damn.


As I have said before, gentlemen, it is all about the attitude and intention.

[Mojojo]

Originally Posted by MaxiMilyen

I agree... You are the first person on this thread that really upset me. And I can't figure out who in the world you think you are to address me in that manner. I'd appreciate if you didn't, because I recall a time something you paid no attention to could have done the same thing as what this guy said. I get, it bothers you to get called on it, but you lost your mind much like he did. I don't get why you didn't comprehend what ya did at the time. I thought it was kind of pissy and selfish of you at the time.

So yeah....

I don't get you at all...I'd prefer to help than hurt, so it confuses me that so many are oblivious about they say. One liners don't work...not for anyone. Stay away from me, or I'll be clear with you. We both know you don't like that and you certainly don't like me ignoring you. You can't have both.

This has no relevance with the topic so please don't attempt to make this thread into something it's not.

[melannie_star]

I still stand by my statement.. lol.

Lets get this back on track.. no one is better than the other, in the way one chooses to handle their own business

It's all roses and sunshine over here

Hope every one is having a wonderful weekend!

[MaxiMilyen]

Originally Posted by Mojojo

This has no relevance with the topic so please don't attempt to make this thread into something it's not.

I couldn't agree more and I apologize. Trying to get ready for hot date with a non-negotiator. Woot! See? We don't actually all negotiate and it feels really nice when a gent understands this. And I'm going to do every wonderful thing I can to him and for him to show my gratitude.

Anywho, I got distracted by haters and it won't happen again any time soon. My apologies to the thread poster. I feel ya, girl.

Reese, how exactly do all the ladies do that, hon? Men usually contact me. So, how would one avoid everyone trying out this negotiating thing you got going on? We all do it, or at least according to that fella earlier. You admitted you would and you are a reputable provider, so please tell the ladies how not to be contacted that way.

Sweetie, clearly you can speak up not as sweetly, but rather adamantly about what I did, but saying what you did as you did and when you did, IMO, was a jab at those who wouldn't negotiate or something. I kinda wonder if you are against yourself, or just us, or what the deal is. I let it go until I needed it as an example. Once you put it out there...your words belong to everyone. You used mine when you responded.

Why would you not be more adamant about ladies being devalued, when this issue goes on and on like this? Instead you jumped up and said I negotiate. LOL I'm sure you can understand my confusion. Either you do, or you do not. Either I am a liar about you liking to negotiate even if you know it's BS, or you do not. There's a reason it would be otherwise, please elaborate.

I don't want to say anything that is not as you are, or prefer. I repeated what ya said and how that would affect ya. I only know, because while different, we are no different. You would not receive anything different than me or any other woman...as far as I know. If so, I apologize. I didn't mean to infer anything untoward. As I am sure it wasn't your aim to act as if you like men haggling over rates, that is of course unless you do. It wasn't the point either way, you could have been any lady, ya know?

Like I said, I'd love to be sweet 24/7 too. Right now, I'm gonna get Hot though. Hope ya'll have some fun tonight, because arguing with ladies about men negotiating is kinda silly. Oh gee...I think I said that already. Repeating myself...silly lil air headed me. LOL

Have a sexy eve everyone!

[Mojojo]

So about my personal memo earlier? Go back and reread that...then step away and enjoy your date.

[Guest062124]

Originally Posted by MaxiMilyen

Reese, how exactly do all the ladies do that, hon? Men usually contact me. So, how would one avoid everyone trying out this negotiating thing you got going on? We all do it, or at least according to that fella earlier. You admitted you would and you are a reputable provider, so please tell the ladies how not to be contacted that way.

So what if he says we all do it, if you don't it shouldn't be an issue. If a guy contacts you assuming you would let him negotiate... Simply, ignore, delete, block. Just because a man haggles, that shouldn't automatically make you feel like you are less of a person. If it does then maybe you should do something to build your self esteem. You claim to know your value.. but if a respectful PM asking for a discount makes you feel devalued... I suspect you may not.

I do not have this "negotiating thing going on". It rarely happens..RARELY..but when it does, I handle it in what ever way I choose and move on. Why is that so hard to understand?

Originally Posted by MaxiMilyen

Sweetie, clearly you can speak up not as sweetly, but rather adamantly about what I did, but saying what you did as you did and when you did, IMO, was a jab at those who wouldn't negotiate or something. I kinda wonder if you are against yourself, or just us, or what the deal is. I let it go until I needed it as an example. Once you put it out there...your words belong to everyone. You used mine when you responded.

Why would you not be more adamant about ladies being devalued, when this issue goes on and on like this? Instead you jumped up and said I negotiate. LOL I'm sure you can understand my confusion. Either you do, or you do not. Either I am a liar about you liking to negotiate even if you know it's BS, or you do not. There's a reason it would be otherwise, please elaborate.

Honey, how was anything I said a JAB to anyone? Once again.. if you don't like it when guys ask you for a discount then don't do it, say no. I don't care. I handle my business the way I see fit. If you had read what I said clearly, you would see that I said, it is all about the way the guys asks. If he is rude and disrespectful, then guess what? I politely tell him no and then I move on. I don't cry about it or get all up in arms about it. How is that confusing?

I am a complete advocate of the ladies here. We deserve to be treated like humans and to be respected. At the same time, we all have different ideas and ways that we handle our time here. My time in the hobby has been successful because I have always gone with what works best for me. Since guys trying to negotiate with me is a rare thing, it doesn't bother me as long as the guy is respectful. Something that you consider to be disrespectful may not be to me and vice versa.

Using my words is not the issue. Speaking for me is.

As I have said multiple times... If a guy is respectful, I don't feel devalued. If you do, that is on you. You can say no.. it is that easy.

I am just really confused as to what point you are trying to make and beginning to believe that you just like to "hear" yourself "talk."

Originally Posted by MaxiMilyen

I don't want to say anything that is not as you are, or prefer. I repeated what ya said and how that would affect ya. I only know, because while different, we are no different. You would not receive anything different than me or any other woman...as far as I know. If so, I apologize. I didn't mean to infer anything untoward. As I am sure it wasn't your aim to act as if you like men haggling over rates, that is of course unless you do. It wasn't the point either way, you could have been any lady, ya know?

Your prediction of how it would affect me is, unfortunately for you, not correct. Of course I do not like to be "haggled"...maybe you do not know the difference between haggling and a polite email. Please re-read my posts, because it is obvious that you really didn't read them.


I'm sorry if you do not understand or are confused with what I have had to say about the subject. I think I made myself pretty clear. I am not against anyone, I just don't go around trying to tell any other lady how to run her business.

[TheEccie214]

Originally Posted by MaxiMilyen

I couldn't agree more and I apologize. Trying to get ready for hot date with a non-negotiator. Woot! See? We don't actually all negotiate and it feels really nice when a gent understands this. And I'm going to do every wonderful thing I can to him and for him to show my gratitude.

Anywho, I got distracted by haters and it won't happen again any time soon. My apologies to the thread poster. I feel ya, girl.

Reese, how exactly do all the ladies do that, hon? Men usually contact me. So, how would one avoid everyone trying out this negotiating thing you got going on? We all do it, or at least according to that fella earlier. You admitted you would and you are a reputable provider, so please tell the ladies how not to be contacted that way.

Sweetie, clearly you can speak up not as sweetly, but rather adamantly about what I did, but saying what you did as you did and when you did, IMO, was a jab at those who wouldn't negotiate or something. I kinda wonder if you are against yourself, or just us, or what the deal is. I let it go until I needed it as an example. Once you put it out there...your words belong to everyone. You used mine when you responded.

Why would you not be more adamant about ladies being devalued, when this issue goes on and on like this? Instead you jumped up and said I negotiate. LOL I'm sure you can understand my confusion. Either you do, or you do not. Either I am a liar about you liking to negotiate even if you know it's BS, or you do not. There's a reason it would be otherwise, please elaborate.

I don't want to say anything that is not as you are, or prefer. I repeated what ya said and how that would affect ya. I only know, because while different, we are no different. You would not receive anything different than me or any other woman...as far as I know. If so, I apologize. I didn't mean to infer anything untoward. As I am sure it wasn't your aim to act as if you like men haggling over rates, that is of course unless you do. It wasn't the point either way, you could have been any lady, ya know?

Like I said, I'd love to be sweet 24/7 too. Right now, I'm gonna get Hot though. Hope ya'll have some fun tonight, because arguing with ladies about men negotiating is kinda silly. Oh gee...I think I said that already. Repeating myself...silly lil air headed me. LOL

Have a sexy eve everyone!

OMG, you're fucking insane and don't get EVERYONE is telling you to shut up but you won't listen!!! Please, please, please SHUT UP!!! Sure some of this personality of yours is what led you to this life but being in it so long has jaded you to the point you'll never be able to coexist with others in the RW.

On topic, I've never negotiated. I don't have the financial need to negotiate and if I think a gal is too expensive I'll just move on to another option that I'm comfortable with. Seems tacky, I'm big into GFE and negotiating seems like a major mood killer for me, whether she's offended or not.

[Luke Skywalker]

I dont ever negotiate, as I see this is poor taste. These wonderful women are sharing their most precious possession, their intimacy, with us. At the same time taking huge risks. Any comparison with other professions are grossly misplaced.

Another comment, and I apologize, out of topic. I love coed! Coed is a great screening tool. I would never pick a provider based on what she posts on coed. But I definitely add providers to my dns list based on what they post. It has hapenned in this thread.

Providers, posting in coed is like playing defense in baseball. You will neve score, just lose.

[BLM69]

Great responses RF and THN, I totally understand and respect your input in the discussion. Thank you for keeping it professional.