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05-25-2016, 11:52 PM
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Swing and a Miss, Strike Three!
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LAD, there is no swing and miss. You left out text from your link that backs up what I have said in other posts. Look at the line that said more often than not she was REPLYING to a staffer... From your link:
In roughly three-quarters of those cases, officials have determined that material Clinton herself wrote in the body of email messages is classified. Clinton sometimes initiated the conversations but more often replied to aides or other officials with brief reactions to ongoing discussions.
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You're unbelievable! You don't know when to give up! You are tripling down on stupid this time! Your reading comprehension is worse than a blind retarded liberal! Oh wait, I forgot - you ARE a blind retarded liberal!
Read the above two sentences you quoted from the WAPO article again. It clearly says that in ¾ of the 104 emails she sent out containing classified material, the classified material was inserted into the email chain BY HER. Whether she initiated the original conversation or was replying to an email started by one of her aides does not alter the fact that SHE is the one who injected the classified info into the discussion! Are you really too stupid to understand the difference between being the originator of an email and the originator of the classified portion of an email?
This means hildebeest directly violated those federal regulations you claim she didn't:
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Regulations dictate the burden is on the sender of an e-mail to classify its security clearance level.
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It was HER responsibility to change the security clearance of any email whenever SHE inserted classified information into it and sent it out to the recipients.
Of course, you are caught in a lie and therefore eager to deflect the conversation away from your lie to other aspects of the email scandal. What you don't get is that you have shot yourself in the foot by refusing to come clean on your lie. You have no credibility left to discuss any other aspects of the scandal with any objectivity because you have exposed yourself to be a blind partisan hack who will grasp at any embarrassingly preposterous argument to protect the hildebeest from the consequences of her reckless and criminal behavior.
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05-26-2016, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by lustylad
Read the above two sentences you quoted from the WAPO article again. It clearly says that in ¾ of the 104 emails she sent out containing classified material, the classified material was inserted into the email chain BY HER.
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LAD, try reading your own link. From your link:
Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon said the large number of people who sent and received emails that were declared classified was a sign of “overclassification run amok, and indicates that our system for determining what ought to be classified is broken.”
Regarding Clinton’s role in writing 104 of the emails, Fallon said the classification determinations “were after-the-fact . . . for the purposes of preparing these emails for release publicly.”
“It does not mean the material was classified when it was sent or received,” he said.
According to Brian Fallon Hillary did not break rules USC1924 and USC 793 regarding those 104 emails. You have nothing. A Grand Jury has not been convened.
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05-26-2016, 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by flghtr65
Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon said the large number of people who sent and received emails that were declared classified was a sign of “overclassification run amok, and indicates that our system for determining what ought to be classified is broken.”
Regarding Clinton’s role in writing 104 of the emails, Fallon said the classification determinations “were after-the-fact . . . for the purposes of preparing these emails for release publicly.”
“It does not mean the material was classified when it was sent or received,” he said.
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In other words ... Hillarious-No-More, the lying, evidence destroyer, who refuses to cooperate with a STATE DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATION, pleads ..
"not guilty"!
And you post that as some "authority"?
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05-26-2016, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by flghtr65
Regulations dictate the burden is on the sender of an e-mail to classify its security clearance level.
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Provide the cite of the regulation that states what you just posted.
(And don't spew back some newspaper or blog bullshit. Give the Fed Reg. No.)
That's what you just posted. Now prove it!
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05-26-2016, 03:05 AM
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Duck and Deflect, then Default to a Different Brian Fallon Talking Point!
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Originally Posted by flghtr65
LAD, try reading your own link. From your link:
Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon said the large number of people who sent and received emails that were declared classified was a sign of “overclassification run amok, and indicates that our system for determining what ought to be classified is broken.”
Regarding Clinton’s role in writing 104 of the emails, Fallon said the classification determinations “were after-the-fact . . . for the purposes of preparing these emails for release publicly.”
“It does not mean the material was classified when it was sent or received,” he said.
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I read the damn link, you dipshit. Once again, you are trying to deflect to a completely different argument - without even a hint that you just had your ass handed to you on your previous argument!
First, you claimed hildebeest wasn't responsible for classifying any of the emails found on her server. Then I demonstrated that SHE was the source of information that should have been classified, and as such she violated the federal regulations you were hiding behind. Now that you were proven wrong, you say she should get a pass because - according to her fucking press secretary - the whole system is broken anyway.
The system is broken, so what difference does it make, right flighty? Are you going with that one now?
And all the while, you are too chickenshit to address the matter of those 22 SAP emails. I don't care how broken you and Brian Fucking Fallon think the existing classification system is. You know damn well those 22 emails contained information that was SO highly sensitive that ANYONE with a working brain would immediately recognize the need to restrict who should have access to it. But you are too partisan and chickenshit to face this obvious conclusion.
If the system is broken, how does installing a private unsecured home-brew server and circumventing all secured State Dept. email networks without seeking prior permission or advice from the department's legal counsel (she knew it would be denied) do anything other than blow it up further? Should that be added to Madame Secretary's list of "accomplishments" - the system was broken, so I made it worse?
Read the fucking Inspector General's report that came out yesterday. Its contents are still being digested by the MSM and the fallout will get worse. Then tell me with a straight face hildebeest did nothing wrong, you partisan hack. The IG report is a mere foreshadow of what is coming out once the FBI investigation is over.
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05-26-2016, 06:07 AM
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05-26-2016, 07:01 AM
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05-26-2016, 03:01 PM
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Hillary should already be in jail for dumping 30K emails after they were subpoenaed. She's a criminal. Like in the Nixon days, an "unindicted co-conspirator".
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05-26-2016, 03:06 PM
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Hillary should already be in jail for dumping 30K emails after they were subpoenaed. She's a criminal. Like in the Nixon days, an "unindicted co-conspirator".
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I am beginning to believe the whole investigation is nothing but a big put on. I can't believe this country's Federal LE would investigate someone this long and not be able to come to a concrete decision to either convict or acquit.
Jim
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05-26-2016, 03:15 PM
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Hillary will be elected because she will do anything the Establishment wants without question. Trump will, too, but he may question before he does it. Hillary is an amoral psychopath.
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05-26-2016, 05:07 PM
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05-26-2016, 05:51 PM
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“[I]t feels like she [Hillary Clinton] is lying straight out,” MSNBC’s Mika Brezinski.
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05-26-2016, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin
I am beginning to believe the whole investigation is nothing but a big put on. I can't believe this country's Federal LE would investigate someone this long and not be able to come to a concrete decision to either convict or acquit.
Jim
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At this point in the process the decision would be to indict or not indict. You need a trial to convict or acquit.
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