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			09-02-2016, 08:28 AM
			
			
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				I'm speaking of NOW (see: Middle East), not territorial land grabs of the past. Which couldn't happen on the scale of Ghengis Khan today.  
And the Jews may disagree with your inclusion of Hitler and his "final solution". 
 
Anyone who thinks today's terrorism has little to do with religion is...lost. 
			
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Islam , Shinto, Buddha, Christianity, Judiasm, etc cannot all be fairly labeled under the heading of religion - it is a false equivalency since they believe radically different things.
 
The one that follows the real G-D is correct.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-02-2016, 08:32 AM
			
			
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				If he wants more government control, he should move to North Korea. I'm sure they would be very open minded about his ideas. 
			
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you and pretty old guy do realize that government is the people in a democratic society in which we live. So yes I want more people control which is government. Basically interchangeable terms in my view.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-02-2016, 08:37 AM
			
			
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			Just because someone doesn't believe in religion as it is defined by man doesn't mean they aren't spiritual. I disagree with the assessment that the void of religion would bring worse consequences than if we had it. The curiosity factor of where we came from and how we got here...does it have to be religious-based? 
 
Man hasn't figured it out, it least to my satisfaction. Why would your religion be better, or the right way as opposed to somebody else's religion? 
 
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			09-02-2016, 09:45 AM
			
			
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				Just because someone doesn't believe in religion as it is defined by man doesn't mean they aren't spiritual. I disagree with the assessment that the void of religion would bring worse consequences than if we had it. The curiosity factor of where we came from and how we got here...does it have to be religious-based? 
 
Man hasn't figured it out, it least to my satisfaction. Why would your religion be better, or the right way as opposed to somebody else's religion? 
 
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Alien experiment? You mean like Gary Johnson for president? An Alien has a better chance!  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-02-2016, 10:05 AM
			
			
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				Alien experiment? You mean like Gary Johnson for president? An Alien has a better chance!   
			
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			09-02-2016, 10:08 AM
			
			
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			09-02-2016, 10:18 AM
			
			
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				Just because someone doesn't believe in religion as it is defined by man doesn't mean they aren't spiritual. I disagree with the assessment that the void of religion would bring worse consequences than if we had it. The curiosity factor of where we came from and how we got here...does it have to be religious-based? 
 
Man hasn't figured it out, it least to my satisfaction. Why would your religion be better, or the right way as opposed to somebody else's religion? 
 
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Agree. I'm very spiritual and believe in God but like Karl Marx said: "Religion is the  "Drug" of the People."
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-02-2016, 10:31 AM
			
			
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			its quite self serving to be able to make God into your own image 
 
that way you can get away with murder
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-02-2016, 10:38 AM
			
			
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				its quite self serving to be able to make God into your own image 
 
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it's always been that way. Hell the KKK foolishly and moronically burn crosses and kill in support of and in the name of Christianity while at the same time not accepting Jews of which Jesus was born. It's quite fascinating to watch this level of ignorance and stupidity.    
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-02-2016, 11:17 AM
			
			
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				its quite self serving to be able to make God into your own image 
 
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Yep. My point...exactly...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-02-2016, 11:20 AM
			
			
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				Yep. My point...exactly... 
			
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			09-02-2016, 12:00 PM
			
			
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				its quite self serving to be able to make God into your own image 
 
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   And how substantively different is that from replacing the godhead with man?  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-02-2016, 12:28 PM
			
			
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				 And how substantively different is that from replacing the godhead with man?  
 
			
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its the same thing
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-02-2016, 03:15 PM
			
			
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				it's always been that way. Hell the KKK foolishly and moronically burn crosses and kill in support of and in the name of Christianity while at the same time not accepting Jews of which Jesus was born. It's quite fascinating to watch this level of ignorance and stupidity.     
			
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I can assure you there are Jews in the KKK. Ask Asswipe.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-02-2016, 09:03 PM
			
			
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