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Old 10-12-2016, 04:39 PM   #16
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And who of these at this time could not be kicking Clinton's butt? Other than Bush and Trump.

The Liberals would be bashing every last one, Trump is the one with gonads to stand up to them, I do believe the others cowered just like Romney.
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The Liberals would be bashing every last one, Trump is the one with gonads to stand up to them, I do believe the others cowered just like Romney.
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The Liberals would be bashing every last one, Trump is the one with gonads to stand up to them, I do believe the others cowered just like Romney.
It is not the liberals you would have to worry about. Trump is losing in case you haven't noticed.

Losing to Hillary is a disgrace.
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This is actually a base case or upside scenario. The lowside is if Trump creates his own political party after the election, and splits the Republican vote. If that happens then you may be right, Democrats may dominate America for many years to come.



I agree about Jeb Bush. John Kasich, Marco Rubio, Carly Fiorina or Ben Carson would have easily beat Hillary. Cruz would have had a better than 50/50 shot. He's smart, devious, and, unlike Clinton, would have pivoted hard to the center after the primaries.



Like the hard core Trump supporters, the ones who would withhold their votes from any Republican Congressional candidate who didn't endorse Trump, you better be careful what you wish for, it might come true. As Lusty Lad put it:



If your party controls the presidency, the House and Senate, and then the judiciary by virtue of installing federal judges who will disregard the constitution to achieve political ends, then the country is fucked. If they're in power long enough, look for per capita GDP to go down to European levels. Tax rates will go up, to the highest or among the highest in the world. Fundamental rights, like freedom of expression, will be trampled.

If we're lucky, we end up like slow-growth, high-unemployment nations in Europe. If we're unlucky we end up like Venezuela or Argentina.

Will you, Sistine Chapel, be worse off? Probably, but I'm not sure. You have posted that you admire Marx, and have intimated that you work for the Democratic Party:



If you come to occupy a position high up in the Party or the government, then you'd do well in your utopia. And only the rest of us would be fucked.
I personally benefit by voting Trump (tax break for the top earners) but I'm also thinking beyond that to 'future sustainment' and investment opportunities in the new era we're approaching. Hillary is the smart safe choice will provide status quo stability to the financial markets. Trump's lack of knowledge and volatility would cause an instability that would cause speculators to go wild with an ensuing market collapse. I'm not voting for that.

Hillary may not be as Colin Powell said a transformative figure but she's the safe bet.

FYI - I once met Colin Powell and he's a brilliant man. His personal views on Hillary and Trump was spot on.
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We're all touched by your heartfelt concern for the GOP, Sissy Chap (sarcasm alert). The Republican party will recover nicely, just like they did after Nixon's Watergate scandal. Back then it was Jimmy Carter's incompetence that ushered in 12 years of Republican control of the White House. I have no doubt if hildebeest wins, she will be her own worst enemy. Her corruption, ineptness, secretiveness and inability to tell the truth will soon send voters fleeing back to the GOP's steady, reassuring embrace.

Meanwhile, if you had any real insight or understanding of politics you would be alarmed at the far-left demogogues like Bernie Sanders and ELizabeth Warren who are hijacking the Dimotard Party. If they get half a chance, they will happily blow up the economy with their demented and destructive growth-killing schemes and trigger a popular backlash that would "destroy your party for generations".

I laugh at the way you always follow your limpdick arguments by saying "only an idiot doesn't understand this". That reveals how insecure you are. You have to reassure yourself by calling anyone who might disagree an "idiot" before they even respond. That's the opposite of what a "real intellectual" does. A real intellectual welcomes contrary viewpoints. You're about as intellectual as Woody Woodpecker.

Perhaps you should concern yourself with more practical matters, Sissy Chap - like how will you support yourself after your job as a paid DNC internet troll ends on November 9th.

Don't be angry. I'm right to say that only an idiot with no fundamental understanding of just about anything would vote Trump. I look at your views and I pity you. No disrespect meant but you old timers just don't understand and it's likely because you're not invested in anything or don't have money tied up in investments. I don't want that idiot anywhere near the White House. Hillary may be whatever but at least she's smart enough to keep the ball rolling. So my friend you can go cry your river elsewhere because I don't want to hear it.
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I personally benefit by voting Trump (tax break for the top earners) but I'm also thinking beyond that to 'future sustainment' and investment opportunities in the new era we're approaching. Hillary is the smart safe choice will provide status quo stability to the financial markets. Trump's lack of knowledge and volatility would cause an instability that would cause speculators to go wild with an ensuing market collapse. I'm not voting for that.

Hillary may not be as Colin Powell said a transformative figure but she's the safe bet.

One more thing, the only "ball" Hillary keeps moving, is her own, she could give tow goods

FYI - I once met Colin Powell and he's a brilliant man. His personal views on Hillary and Trump was spot on.
Your idea of "status quo" is seriously lacking Sir. The only reason for the "status quo" is all the "funny money" aka quantitive easing, borrowing that your King has done (and RINO's went along with), more than all 43 Presidents before him put together. Wait and see how great your portfolio is when China pulls in the notes, like the guy with 100,000 dollar line of credit, when the bank comes calling, he don't feel so rich, in fact I'll bet he feels broke just like America will feel/be.

Also, I heard just today that the Fed is now going against Yellen and wants to raise the interest rates, my suspicion along with many economists, is the market will take a dive like nothing you have ever seen before. So I do hope Mr Chapel you have money in real estate (usually I would also say bonds, because when the market goes down, the bond market usually sustains a portfolio, not so this time, the big boys, cities, counties and states will walk out on those IOU's in a New York minute).

One more buttress this country has right now, is the overseas market of real estate buyers, they are not Americans, In Florida alone 85 % of all real estate sales are to out of country buyers. I just sold an apt building in March, guess who bought it, people from India. Not one American even looked at it, in fact "they" didn't look themselves, (heck I'm continuing as property manager, make money and not spend a dime, what a deal as everything is already in place) all their doing is looking to place their money where the dollar is cheap, and due to the quantitative easing, our dollar is very cheap.

Just be very careful of your so called "status quo", it can change (and will) on a dime, no matter who is in office.
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I look at your views and I pity you... you old timers just don't understand and it's likely because you're not invested in anything or don't have money tied up in investments.
Listen asshole, you have no idea how old I am, what my personal net worth is, or how it is invested. You bring up these things up because you are incapable of engaging in informed debate. Like I said, you are the OPPOSITE of an intellectual. You are completely close-minded, ignorant and you flee whenever challenged by logic or rational argument.

Look in the mirror if you need to feel pity, Sissy Chap.
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I personally benefit by voting Trump (tax break for the top earners) but I'm also thinking beyond that to 'future sustainment' and investment opportunities in the new era we're approaching...
Lookee folks - Sissy Chap calls himself a “top earner”? That's a howler!



You're completely full of shit!

You start threads with titles like "Karl Marx Was Right".

You believe all wages in the economy are "predetermined" by "corporate masters".

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Capitalism will eventually lead to the demise of this country and only democratic socialist planning will solve our issues...
You're as phony as LubedAss.

I guess bragging about being a “top earner” on a hooker board makes it easier for you to deal with the depressing reality of your life working at minimum-wage jobs flipping burgers and being a DNC troll, huh Sissy Chap?
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Listen asshole, you have no idea how old I am, what my personal net worth is, or how it is invested. You bring up these things up because you are incapable of engaging in informed debate. Like I said, you are the OPPOSITE of an intellectual. You are completely close-minded, ignorant and you flee whenever challenged by logic or rational argument.

Look in the mirror if you need to feel pity, Sissy Chap.
He should just go suck some sap. I'm sure he's very good at it.
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Your idea of "status quo" is seriously lacking Sir. The only reason for the "status quo" is all the "funny money" aka quantitive easing, borrowing that your King has done (and RINO's went along with), more than all 43 Presidents before him put together. Wait and see how great your portfolio is when China pulls in the notes, like the guy with 100,000 dollar line of credit, when the bank comes calling, he don't feel so rich, in fact I'll bet he feels broke just like America will feel/be.

Also, I heard just today that the Fed is now going against Yellen and wants to raise the interest rates, my suspicion along with many economists, is the market will take a dive like nothing you have ever seen before. So I do hope Mr Chapel you have money in real estate (usually I would also say bonds, because when the market goes down, the bond market usually sustains a portfolio, not so this time, the big boys, cities, counties and states will walk out on those IOU's in a New York minute).

One more buttress this country has right now, is the overseas market of real estate buyers, they are not Americans, In Florida alone 85 % of all real estate sales are to out of country buyers. I just sold an apt building in March, guess who bought it, people from India. Not one American even looked at it, in fact "they" didn't look themselves, (heck I'm continuing as property manager, make money and not spend a dime, what a deal as everything is already in place) all their doing is looking to place their money where the dollar is cheap, and due to the quantitative easing, our dollar is very cheap.

Just be very careful of your so called "status quo", it can change (and will) on a dime, no matter who is in office.

I won't confirm or deny any investments and the status quo is just fine for now (as I maintain) and will be 4 yrs from now in all likelihood. Your semi-diatribe was nice but I would like to understand your rationale for voting Trump. That would be awesome to understand.
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Lookee folks - Sissy Chap calls himself a “top earner”? That's a howler!



You're completely full of shit!

You start threads with titles like "Karl Marx Was Right".

You believe all wages in the economy are "predetermined" by "corporate masters".

And you constantly post garbage like this:



You're as phony as LubedAss.

I guess bragging about being a “top earner” on a hooker board makes it easier for you to deal with the depressing reality of your life working at minimum-wage jobs flipping burgers and being a DNC troll, huh Sissy Chap?

^ oh my you really are scatter brains. Just a couple things:

1.) It's not my job to convince you of anything nor am I trying to

2.) Please logically and coherently translate my very specific points about what Marx (or anything else) into the success or lack thereof my 'theoretical' investments and earnings. If you can do that to my satisfaction I will recognize your talent and intellect.
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Listen asshole, you have no idea how old I am, what my personal net worth is, or how it is invested. You bring up these things up because you are incapable of engaging in informed debate. Like I said, you are the OPPOSITE of an intellectual. You are completely close-minded, ignorant and you flee whenever challenged by logic or rational argument.

Look in the mirror if you need to feel pity, Sissy Chap.

I will not look in the mirror anymore than I already do as I think I'm handsome and sexy as it is.

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^ oh my you really are scatter brains. Just a couple things:

1.) It's not my job to convince you of anything nor am I trying to

2.) Please logically and coherently translate my very specific points about what Marx (or anything else) into the success or lack thereof my 'theoretical' investments and earnings. If you can do that to my satisfaction I will recognize your talent and intellect.

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CTH readers will remember how far we researched the transparent politicization of criminal cases as they related to the DOJ (Eric Holder and Tom Perez) in the Zimmerman trial. Specifically how entities within the DOJ/FBI colluded with State Attorney Angela Corey about extracting then hiding Trayvon Martin’s phone metadata.

That level of coordinated DOJ/FBI corruption only worsened with Darren Wilson (Ferguson) and beyond. The same manipulative tentacles became more evident with the IRS targeting scandal and later the email investigation into Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

In essence, the bottom line is: the politicization and weaponization of government has been going on for more than just a few years. So this report comes as no surprise:

(Via Fox News) The decision to let Hillary Clinton off the hook for mishandling classified information has roiled the FBI and Department of Justice, with one person closely involved in the year-long probe telling FoxNews.com that career agents and attorneys on the case unanimously believed the Democratic presidential nominee should have been charged.

The source, who spoke to FoxNews.com on the condition of anonymity, said FBI Director James Comey’s dramatic July 5 announcement that he would not recommend to the Attorney General’s office that the former secretary of state be charged left members of the investigative team dismayed and disgusted. More than 100 FBI agents and analysts worked around the clock with six attorneys from the DOJ’s National Security Division, Counter Espionage Section, to investigate the case.

“No trial level attorney agreed, no agent working the case agreed, with the decision not to prosecute — it was a top-down decision,” said the source, whose identity and role in the case has been verified by FoxNews.com.

A high-ranking FBI official told Fox News that while it might not have been a unanimous decision, “It was unanimous that we all wanted her [Clinton’s] security clearance yanked.”

“It is safe to say the vast majority felt she should be prosecuted,” the senior FBI official told Fox News. “We were floored while listening to the FBI briefing because Comey laid it all out, and then said ‘but we are doing nothing,’ which made no sense to us.”
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I personally benefit by voting Trump (tax break for the top earners) but I'm also thinking beyond that to 'future sustainment' and investment opportunities in the new era we're approaching. Hillary is the smart safe choice will provide status quo stability to the financial markets. Trump's lack of knowledge and volatility would cause an instability that would cause speculators to go wild with an ensuing market collapse. I'm not voting for that.

Hillary may not be as Colin Powell said a transformative figure but she's the safe bet.

FYI - I once met Colin Powell and he's a brilliant man. His personal views on Hillary and Trump was spot on.

David Stockman disagrees with you. you are a nobody putz on a hooker site claiming to be a top earner. at what? a gloryhole? ahahhaaaa

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David Stockman: Brace for Hillary Impeachment, Recession, Market Collapse in 'Nasty' New Year


Read more: David Stockman: Brace for Hillary Impeachment, Recession in 'Nasty' New Year
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Reagan Budget Director David Stockman warns that the nation will plunge into a recession, even though Hillary Clinton will win the presidential election.
While many analysts believe the stock market will rally in the wake of a Clinton victory, the author of "Trumped! A Nation on the Brink of Ruin" believes the economy is doomed regardless of the result.


The former director of the Office of Management and Budget predicts Congress will be "totally dysfunctional" once Clinton is in office.
“Lawmakers may not be able to come together and work out solutions leading to economic growth given how many divisions the election has caused,” CNBC explained.

"I think it's going to be so contentious in the House because [Paul] Ryan has moved to protect his House majority, that it's very likely that investigations will begin immediately," the Newsmax Finance Insider told CNBC. "And within any kind of excuse, they will try to impeach Hillary Clinton barely after she gets in office," he said.



"When the stock market stumbles and the economy begins to actually register negative growth, which I think is coming if not next quarter certainly in the first half of next year, there's going to be nothing below and the market is going to go through a massive contraction," said Stockman. "I think it's going to be a very nasty time in the year ahead," he added.
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"Growth over the last four quarters has averaged 1.3 percent, that's barely stall speed [and] we have inventories building up," Stockman told CNBC. "If you look at concurrent indicators of the economy such as freight shipments and so forth, they're weak and negative. Capital spending is down double digits and exports are down and so forth," he said.
Stockman isn't alone in his dire predictions of market chaos after the election. But other financial gurus think GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump winning the White House would cause a stock-market collapse.
Billionaire investor Mark Cuban says he has his "Trump hedge on." In a recent interview on Fox Business Network anchor Neil Cavuto's show "Coast to Coast," the "Sharktank" reality TV personality warned: "In the event Donald wins, I have no doubt in my mind the market tanks."


But not all gurus are as pessimistic as Cuban and Stockman.


Wells Capital Management's Jim Paulsen predicts that the stock market will literally end the year with a bang as it charges into 2017. "I think we're going to maybe find out we are finally turning northward on earnings momentum," Paulsen, Wells’ chief investment strategist, told CNBC.

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