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Old 12-07-2016, 12:12 PM   #46
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I see this as a typical Trump ploy. He throws out an incorrect figure that he knows is way more than actual cost. Says he will personally negotiate with Boeing. When plane comes in at original cost which is way lower than the cost Trump threw out there he will claim it was all because of him which will be a lie
No, it's just you being a "typical" ignoramus. Do you know how much it costs? Trump wants to rebuild the military, its refreshing that a POTUS will keep an eye on costs. The Pentagon is famous for overspending. Trump is used to deadlines and budgets. He's good at meeting both.
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:24 PM   #47
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...because the plane will be delivered way after Trump leaves and Boeing will get their money.
No wonder Trump doesn't give a shit then.

You Liberals have been playing "kick the can" for six years now with "Obamacare" NONinsurance coverage.....and the bullet the taxpayers have to bite for NOTHING.....again.
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:01 PM   #48
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I see this as a typical Trump ploy. He throws out an incorrect figure that he knows is way more than actual cost. Says he will personally negotiate with Boeing. When plane comes in at original cost which is way lower than the cost Trump threw out there he will claim it was all because of him which will be a lie
Now you are catching on.

It is like the hobbyist who goes to the session *hint* and asks for a deeply discounted price ** hint ** in return for a favorable review **hint hint** that's already been written out *hint*. Right, ** hint hint hint ** Big Louse?

But you are already familiar with these tactics aren't you?
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:50 PM   #49
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LL, How dare you lecture the all knowing Low-T!

Low-T believes the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter is "on schedule, on budget." the dumbass....
I didn't realize you couldn't tell the difference between AF-1 and an F-35. That's pretty sad.

You know reason #1 for the F-35's absurd cost overruns? The FAR (or the lawyers/congress's interpretation of the FAR).

Reason #2? Congressional "help" to ensure almost every state gets a piece of the pork whether they are best able to produce it or not.

Reason #3? International partners who want to make sure their countries all get a share of the pork.

So good luck to Trump trying to sort that one out. He will need it.
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Old 12-07-2016, 02:14 PM   #50
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You sound kinda panicky Low-T. Aren't you a govt consultant? Don't worry, I'm sure there will STILL be govt fat after Trump leaves office.

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I didn't realize you couldn't tell the difference between AF-1 and an F-35. That's pretty sad.
You don't realize a lot of things Low-T. That's why you are one of the last progtards on this board not hearing the laughter. At least Texas Tush Hog got tired of the ridicule.

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You know reason #1 for the F-35's absurd cost overruns? The FAR (or the lawyers/congress's interpretation of the FAR).

Reason #2? Congressional "help" to ensure almost every state gets a piece of the pork whether they are best able to produce it or not.

Reason #3? International partners who want to make sure their countries all get a share of the pork.

So good luck to Trump trying to sort that one out. He will need it.
Low-T, how is this different than any other huge govt contract? Let me help you out: It isn't. Other than this is an "international joint" strike fighter.

The F-35 was doomed to have huge cost over runs just by the nature of producing a stealthy, hovering, supersonic fighter. And the nature of govt contracts. The govt should have cut it's losses and run long ago but they can't because they've got to keep LMT in business.

BTW, Zimmerman is still walking around a free man. The guy who shot at him was convicted of attempted murder.

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Old 12-07-2016, 02:38 PM   #51
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Your point is what exactly?

That Trump can wave his hands and fix all that, as the essence of this post claimed in the beginning? Just shout out "Cancel it!", and magically that fixes a flawed system?

You are saying that the legalistic procurement system has doomed the F-35 to overruns. Wow, isn't that insightful (and exactly what I said).

As to Georgie Z still being a free man--what does that have to do with AF-1 or F-35s? You hijack the thread--and then hijack your own hijack. Well done. You really are having a difficult time staying on topic Gonad. But staying on topic wasn't your concern, was it?
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Old 12-07-2016, 03:43 PM   #52
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Another example of people--including Trump in this case--making stupid comments.

I am sure the geniuses on here can figure out what is different between AF-1 and the Trump Flying Chariot. Come now, it isn't really that hard.
AF1 is any Flying Chariot that the president is in.
It could be a paper airplane, if he is in it it becomes AF1.
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Old 12-07-2016, 04:29 PM   #53
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You are inadvertently revealing your ignorance in your effort to appear "all-knowing"!

How many government "construction" contracts have you seen without a "change order" provision/clause in them?

You can always LIE on here if you wish to maintain your "story line"!

Did Obaminable actually approve the construction of our war planes in India?

What role did the Clintons play in that one?
Change Orders(ECO) in the aircraft Industry that be a Engineering Change Order, you have to spell it out so the Liberal knows what you are talking about
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Old 12-07-2016, 05:41 PM   #54
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AF1 is any Flying Chariot that the president is in.
It could be a paper airplane, if he is in it it becomes AF1.
True. And your point is?



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Change Orders(ECO) in the aircraft Industry that be a Engineering Change Order, you have to spell it out so the Liberal knows what you are talking about
Yessereee, you be one a them smart'uns, yes you be!
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Old 12-07-2016, 06:27 PM   #55
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Change Orders(ECO) in the aircraft Industry that be a Engineering Change Order, you have to spell it out so the Liberal knows what you are talking about
Old Thumper seems more cranky than usual since EKIM has left. Mebbe because Thumper isn't getting his 55 gallon drum each week of dingleberry wine from Ekim to stay soused !
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Old 12-07-2016, 06:34 PM   #56
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Old Thumper seems more cranky than usual since EKIM has left. Mebbe because Thumper isn't getting his 55 gallon drum each week of dingleberry wine from Ekim to stay soused !
Fellow Ekim gaymo wrote this song for all the dingleberry pickers. Elton just disguised it with elderberries.
"Drunk all the time feeling fine on "DINGLEBERY WINE"!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=21NCH2sPlhc
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Old 12-07-2016, 06:42 PM   #57
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Fellow Ekim gaymo wrote this song for all the dingleberry pickers. Elton just disguised it with elderberries.
"Drunk all the time feeling fine on "DINGLEBERY WINE"!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=21NCH2sPlhc
Elton, being flaming gay and all , has prolly picked a few dingleberries in his time !
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Old 12-07-2016, 06:44 PM   #58
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Elton, being flaming gay and all , has prolly picked a few dingleberries in his time !
Fuckin eh he did!

Dingleberry wine!
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Old 12-07-2016, 08:49 PM   #59
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...you are one of the last progtards on this board not hearing the laughter. At least Texas Tush Hog got tired of the ridicule.
Hey, leave Old-T alone! He was as disgusted as the rest of us with hildebeest and her lies and bullshit explanations about her private server and mishandling of classified material. That proves he isn't a knee-jerk progtard. Can't say the same about TushHog, though. I started a thread inviting him to show up and offer his post-election analysis, but he done do a houdini on us.

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1894075
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Old 12-08-2016, 04:35 AM   #60
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Er, no. Taxpayers lost $535 million on Solyndra, not a trillion. It's in your link.
That should have read a billion.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1721043

Billion seems like a drop in the bucket in comparison to the trillions Obama spent in the first year.
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