PSE? GFE? Etc...

[Guest072323]

Just don't let it devolve into a wife experience....

[Dick Guzinya]

Originally Posted by Paulwantsya

Just don't let it devolve into a wife experience....

Hopefully I learned the first time.

But if she's 20, beautiful, and worships the ground I walk on...

[MOCHAakaMOCHA]

GFE ... finger in the butt.
PSE ... the whole fist.
Kidding............kinda.
There's some ladies whose GFE will include Greek and then there's some whose PSE doesn't even include Greek lol.
PSE or GFE will definitely vary based on the individual you ask.
Seriously tho whoever told you PSE should automatically include BBFS definitely lied.
I can't think of too many people whose PSE means BBPIV or BBGreek (neither of those are in my flavor of PSE).

[Horselover]

Doubtful this was manipulation. It is quite obvious 3 of 5 here said it includes or could/should include greek. As for BB, porn is typically uncovered so again pse mimics porn.

Did the person actually want these services or were they just verifying what you intended?

[Guest072118]

I dont see them as different anymore, just a marketing term.(in Upstate anyways) Exception is GFE will kiss and PSE traditionally does not.

Greek, toys, dirty talk, etc, etc, most 'GFE's' do so...

BB is a crock of bull.

[tinyisgreat]

Originally Posted by ElleW

I dont see them as different anymore, just a marketing term.(in Upstate anyways) Exception is GFE will kiss and PSE traditionally does not.

Greek, toys, dirty talk, etc, etc, most 'GFE's' do so...

BB is a crock of bull.

u say in ur post greek most gfe do and ur showcase states u r a gfe so then can it logically follow that greek is part of ur regular menu even though no review mentions it

[Guest072118]

Originally Posted by tinyisgreat

u say in ur post greek most gfe do and ur showcase states u r a gfe so then can it logically follow that greek is part of ur regular menu even though no review mentions it

Again with your assumptions.

I can tell you are still butt hurt, you need a hug?

[Guest072323]

fuckin Elle.....

[Lena Duvall]

What's more important than the various ways either GFE or PSE can be defined is the fact that consent is not fixed. It's crucial that people not be allowed to use an acronym to convince anyone they need to engage in any particular act.

Very often, my variation of PSE does include anal because it feels so damn good and I can't get enough of the abundance of quiver-inducing sensations I experience. BUT if anyone came to me trying to pull a PSE-means-BBF* scam, they'd me met with the swiftest side eye and block.

Do only what you're comfortable with.

Originally Posted by Lena Duvall

Both GFE and PSE are representations of what one might expect from either a girlfriend or a porn star as opposed to being an exact manifestation. Hence, the "experience" aspect. Personally, I think of PSE as including GFE activities with a hardcore twist, which could include FF, DT, gagging, CIM/COF, dirty talk and sometimes Greek.

[lilylivered]

Originally Posted by ElleW

Again with your assumptions.

I can tell you are still butt hurt, you need a hug?

I could use a hug. Are they for free or.......

[bella0203]

Well Horselover, when someone asks if you do Greek and you say "no" and they then say that you advertised that you do and send a definition of PSE meaning Greek and bareback.... Idk, I guess you'd assume since they thought you do those things that they were looking for it. I'm positive they wanted Greek. Bareback I can't say for certain. I guess only you would know the answer to that?

I personally take PSE as dirty talk, cim, cof, cot, just being a total "slut". BC I'm known to be full GFE and very sweet, I wanted potential clients to know I love incorporating a little more excitement into our " sensual, connected " experience. I feel that I'm good at mixing the two. I do know porn is bareback. I just assumed it was obvious this industry is covered FS unless otherwise stated. Greek is usually specifically mentioned, also. I took GFE n PSE to be more of an overall "mood" then a specific menu. That's just me though! I didn't post this to attack anyone. I truly was curious what others thought of each as.

[bella0203]

And DG, that's hilarious. I always joke about "real GFE" where I can complain and say I'm "not in the mood today". Now that would be authentic GFE. Hahaha! (Of course I'm teasing and know many gfs are wonderful! But that's the stereotype of a longterm gf)

[jasontodd]

Would you call me an asshole, kick me in the balls and empty my wallet? Lol

I saw you again today Bella at Cindi's. Looking good girl !

[Guest011124]

I have over $1,500 worth of sex toys, will crawl, beg, am a huge cum fetishst who encourages facials, dirty talk, S/m, crying, dragged around on a leash, forced orgasms, degradation - verbal/watersports etc. - love rough hair pulling, slapping, man handling, extreme brutal face fuck ... and I still don't market as PSE. Men hear PSE and want Greek. Only my hobby husband gets the ass.

[bella0203]

I see your point, Busty. I truly do. But you advertise as BDSM and Fantasy play. So if someone asked if you did scat play, needle play, idk anything you actually don't do. And you said no and they sent a list of BDSM activities saying "well, you said BDSM! That's in BDSM porn" or they wanted a fantasy played out, say age play but with rape and you said no way! But they responded with, "you advertise fantasy play!". It was more the way the convo went that bothered me. Like I was now obligated BC I said PSE. I have said no to Greek many times and never been told I advertised I did so I truly was confused. Most accept the answer and drop it. I've seen other girls use the term n not offer Greek. I just wanted to put it out there that I was open to more " dirty" play without listing a menu BC I read its best not to attach a sexual menu to price. Obv I now know to clarify, no greek. Haha!

Love the term "hobby husband"! That's a good one.