Puerto Rico Votes To Accept Statehood

[Jackie S]

Does the rest of the USA need this?

https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...hood/22137047/

I can't see Congress acting on this any time soon.

I think the best course would be to cut them loose and allow them to become an independent Nation.

[J.G Wentworth]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Does the rest of the USA need this?

https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...hood/22137047/

I can't see Congress acting on this any time soon.

I think the best course would be to cut them loose and allow them to become an independent Nation.

I don't see that happening either. P.R's economy is in shambles, they are better off being a commonwealth.

[The_Waco_Kid]

fuck Puerto Rico. cut them loose. and their debt and problems. their rum isn't even that good.

the last thing this country needs is another bunch of "non-americans" who hate the USA. we have too much of that already.

[dilbert firestorm]

oh goody a follow up on that post I made 2 or 3 weeks ago about this.

https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2064449

got the results here:

Statehood ..................... 502,616. 97.18%
Free Association / Independence.. 7,779.. 1.50%
Current Status................... 6,821.. 1.32%
Valid votes.................... 517,216. 99.81%
Invalid or blank votes............. 984. 00.19%
Total votes.................... 518,199 100.00%
Registered voters and turnout 2,260,804. 22.99%

it is underwhelming. only 23% registered voters turned out.

actual vote break down of registered voters

Statehood ..................... 502,616.. 22.23%
Free Association / Independence.. 7,779... 0.34%
Current Status................... 6,821... 0.30%
Invalid or blank votes............. 984... 0.05%
Abstentions.................. 1,742,605.. 77.08%
Total votes.................. 2,260,804. 100.00%

I don't understand the rejection of the referendum by those not voting. the commonwealth was on the ballot as "current status" which was added at the direction of the Justice Dept.

[J.G Wentworth]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

oh goody a follow up on that post I made 2 or 3 weeks ago about this.

got the results here:


Statehood 502,616 97.18% Free Association / Independence 7,779 1.50% Current Status 6,821 1.32% Valid votes 517,216 99.81% Invalid or blank votes 984 0.19% Total votes 518,199 100% Registered voters and turnout 2,260,804 22.99%

Wow very low turnout. I hope congress doesn't ever look at making them a state. P.R would be nothing but a welfare state they we would have to bail out. But I could see liberals supporting statehood for P.R they could use the votes in their mind.

[Mr MojoRisin]

We definitely don't need Puerto Rico as a state. I would be afraid fifty years from now some yahoo will be born there and want to run for president and we'll have to let him. Hopefully this country has learned a lesson with Hawaii and Obama. I am just saying.


Jim

[J.G Wentworth]

Originally Posted by Mr MojoRisin

We definitely don't need Puerto Rico as a state. I would be afraid fifty years from now some yahoo will be born there and want to run for president and we'll have to let him. Hopefully this country has learned a lesson with Hawaii and Obama. I am just saying.


Jim

I am not going to take it to the extreme where you have, I am against statehood for P.R because financially we would have to absorb their massive debt and they would become a welfare state which we don't need. P.R has nothing good going for them expect perhaps tourism, but their infrastructure and schools are in shambles. I don't how this compares to Obama and Hawaii.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by J.G Wentworth

Wow very low turnout. I hope congress doesn't ever look at making them a state. P.R would be nothing but a welfare state they we would have to bail out. But I could see liberals supporting statehood for P.R they could use the votes in their mind.

you didn't give me time to fix the stats. lol!

the stats are updated.

btw. had issues lining the numbers up lol!

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by J.G Wentworth

I am not going to take it to the extreme where you have, I am against statehood for P.R because financially we would have to absorb their massive debt and they would become a welfare state which we don't need. P.R has nothing good going for them expect perhaps tourism, but their infrastructure and schools are in shambles. I don't how this compares to Obama and Hawaii.

It has to do with the way Hawaii got in as a state. It is very similar to Peurto Rico's situation on the turnout.

https://www.hawaii-nation.org/statehood.html

when Hawaii had its referendum. only 2 items were on the ballot.

statehood
territorial status

Independence was not on the ballot.

regarding obama, the territory of Hawaii had some dodgy laws relating to birth certificates.

the entire fiasco was not legal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_Hawaii

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by J.G Wentworth

Wow very low turnout. I hope congress doesn't ever look at making them a state. P.R would be nothing but a welfare state they we would have to bail out. But I could see liberals supporting statehood for P.R they could use the votes in their mind.

besides their current financial problem.

many of them do not speak english, something like 80%.

[Jackie S]

Another item. If the Congress voted for Puerto Rico Statehood, it would indeed become another Liberal enclave looking for the Federal Government to solve all of it's problems. That means they would send two more Liberal/Socialist/Progressive Senators to Washington, plus one or two House Members.

Puerto Rico would just become another "Paul" in the "take from Peter to pay Paul" scenario.

[bamscram]

If they made prostitution legal there money problems would be solved.
Mongers would flock there.

[dilbert firestorm]

states representing a party state can be crap shoot when entering the union. not sure why. I suspect has more to do with way the voter turn out was processed.

I note that in 1959 when Alaska & Hawaii joined, it was believed that Alaska would be dominated by democrats; Hawaii by Republicans. It was a shock when alaska turned republican; hawaii turned democrat.

It really shouldn't be a surprise in the situation with Hawaii given the native population was opposed to statehood and Republicans who were pushing this paid for it dearly at the ballot box.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

besides their current financial problem.

many of them do not speak english, something like 80%.

English and Spanish are mandatory from first grade to 12th in public schools.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

English and Spanish are mandatory from first grade to 12th in public schools.

that may be, but from the sources I've read. they apparently forget the english part when they leave school.