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07-21-2017, 08:42 AM
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Wonder what the difference is between a illegal and a H1B person taking your job?
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The same difference that exist between an out of control forest fire and a controlled, wood-land burn, Ekim the Inbred Chimp: one is beneficial and the other is destructive, you ignorant slut.
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07-21-2017, 09:05 AM
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The same difference that exist between an out of control forest fire and a controlled, wood-land burn, Ekim the Inbred Chimp: one is beneficial and the other is destructive, you ignorant slut.
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Not true.
Especially to the trees burnt? Both are destructive to the tree's burnt and both achieve the same thing. A burnt forest. You burn forest at the expense of one land owner to help other land owners. Does not sound like a free market to me.
So artificially limiting the labor supply to achieve higher wagers is different to the business owners bottom line than artificially setting a minimum wage? I fail to see the difference.
Neither of these options are free market principals.
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07-21-2017, 09:22 AM
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Not true.
Especially to the trees burnt? Both are destructive to the tree's burnt and both achieve the same thing. A burnt forest. You burn forest at the expense of one land owner to help other land owners. Does not sound like a free market to me.
So artificially limiting the labor supply to achieve higher wagers is different to the business owners bottom line than artificially setting a minimum wage? I fail to see the difference.
Neither of these options are free market principals.
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In a controlled burn, fire removes the weeds and undesirable undergrowth that choke out the more desirable grasses and plants. Removing those undesirable plants with a controlled burn provides space, conditions and nutrients for the surviving preferred plants to thrive. If weeds and undergrowth are allowed to accumulate unchecked, the whole ecosystem will be destroyed when a wildfire does break out.
Similarly, Adam Smith advocated that government does have a role in free enterprise and that that role is to insure that all competitors are competing on a level playing field. Illegals disadvantage wage earning American citizens in much the same way that weeds choke out preferred grasses.
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07-21-2017, 09:44 AM
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In a controlled burn, fire removes the weeds and undesirable undergrowth that choke out the more desirable grasses and plants. Removing those undesirable plants with a controlled burn provides space, conditions and nutrients for the surviving preferred plants to thrive. If weeds and undergrowth are allowed to accumulate unchecked, the whole ecosystem will be destroyed when a wildfire does break out.
Similarly, Adam Smith advocated that government does have a role in free enterprise and that that role is to insure that all competitors are competing on a level playing field. Illegals disadvantage wage earning American citizens in much the same way that weeds choke out preferred grasses.
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You are one smart motherfucker to be wrong so much. Why dont you pull your head out and look around
Donald Trump uses Foreign imported help, he makes his shit overseas, he buys steel and aluminum from foreign countries, hes heavily invested overseas.
When are you going to realize this MAGA is a shafeful hoax perpetrated on 36% of the USA population
I know your a pissed off voter who hates Hillary. Anyone is better than Hillary, Bernie, etc. I get that. What I dont get is why you defend this guy 100% of the time. Even when you KNOW he is wrong
Come on IB. Your smarter than this
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07-21-2017, 09:50 AM
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In a controlled burn, fire removes the weeds and undesirable undergrowth that choke out the more desirable grasses and plants. Removing those undesirable plants with a controlled burn provides space, conditions and nutrients for the surviving preferred plants to thrive. If weeds and undergrowth are allowed to accumulate unchecked, the whole ecosystem will be destroyed when a wildfire does break out.
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Having read Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed: ... by Jared Diamond I'm aware of fire suppression
lt turns out that frequent small fires burn off the fuel load, and if you suppress those frequent small fires, then when eventually a fire is lit it may burn out of control far beyond one's ability to suppress it, resulting in the big disastrous fires in the U.S. Intermontane West. It turns out that the best way to deal with forest fires in the West is to let them burn, and burn out, and then there won't be a buildup of a fuel load resulting in a disaster. But these huge forest fires were something with which eastern Americans and Europeans had no prior experience. The idea that you should let a fire burn, and destroy valuable forest, was so counter-intuitive that it took the U.S. Forest Service a hundred years to realize the problem and to change the strategy and let the fire burn. So here's an example of how a society with no prior experience of a problem may not even recognize the problem — the problem of fuel loads in the understory of a dry forest.
https://www.edge.org/conversation/ja...rous-decisions
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Similarly, Adam Smith advocated that government does have a role in free enterprise and that that role is to insure that all competitors are competing on a level playing field. Illegals disadvantage wage earning American citizens in much the same way that weeds choke out preferred grasses.
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https://www.theglobalist.com/adam-sm...ists-of-labor/
Yet no sensible economist would disagree that the free movement of a factor of production is efficiency-enhancing. For the same reason that the movement of labor from Virginia to California is good for the global economy, the movement of labor from Mexico to the United States must also be good.
The differential treatment of cross-border movement of labor and capital among free-market economists exposes the flaw of an incomplete, or not fully consistent, argument. If free movement of one factor of production (labor) can be limited when it is in the interests of a certain political community, there is no reason why a different political community may not limit the free movement of another factor (capital) if it judges that to be in its interest.
All of economics is then seen as a subject of negotiation and bargaining between different groups of people: Imposing price controls is not fundamentally different from limiting the free flow of capital or labor. But if we care about global welfare and take economic theory seriously, they should all be free.
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07-21-2017, 10:07 AM
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Adam Smith on Trump...
Adam Smith would be alarmed by Mr. Trump’s retaliatory threats. The central thesis of The Wealth of Nations is that a nation’s economic well-being is measured not by its store of gold or currency, the amount of goods it exports, or the number of jobs that exist within its borders, but rather by the quantity of goods and services available for consumption by its populace. Smith makes the point that the ultimate purpose of all economic activity is to satisfy human wants and needs. The reason that economic activity takes place is so that people can consume. Work and production are means to that end, but not ends in themselves. In a world in which resources are scarce, employment of labor and other factors of production is the cost that a nation incurs in order to consume.
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07-21-2017, 10:18 AM
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You are one smart motherfucker to be wrong so much. Why dont you pull your head out and look around
Donald Trump uses Foreign imported help, he makes his shit overseas, he buys steel and aluminum from foreign countries, hes heavily invested overseas.
When are you going to realize this MAGA is a shafeful hoax perpetrated on 36% of the USA population
I know your a pissed off voter who hates Hillary. Anyone is better than Hillary, Bernie, etc. I get that. What I dont get is why you defend this guy 100% of the time. Even when you KNOW he is wrong
Come on IB. Your smarter than this
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Your ilks' criticism of Trump is loud, shrill and very, very petty, mistake.
You fault Trump for his ability to successfully conduct business according to rules established by previous administrations, mistake, and you're green with envy. Likewise, Trump didn't make the election rules, mistake, he just played the game exceedingly well, and you and your ilk are pissed that he won.
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Adam Smith would be alarmed by Mr. Trump’s retaliatory threats. The central thesis of The Wealth of Nations is that a nation’s economic well-being is measured not by its store of gold or currency, the amount of goods it exports, or the number of jobs that exist within its borders, but rather by the quantity of goods and services available for consumption by its populace. Smith makes the point that the ultimate purpose of all economic activity is to satisfy human wants and needs. The reason that economic activity takes place is so that people can consume. Work and production are means to that end, but not ends in themselves. In a world in which resources are scarce, employment of labor and other factors of production is the cost that a nation incurs in order to consume.
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That extract misrepresents Adam Smith's central themes. Adam Smith was a proponent of capitalism over mercantilism, but he was still very much an advocate of the nation-state: first and foremost being Britain. Smith was not at Marxist advocating for world communism. Smith was telling the British what they needed to do to remain a sovereign nation.
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The annual labour of every nation is the fund which originally supplies it with all the necessaries and conveniences of life which it annually consumes … . [T]his produce … bears a greater or smaller proportion to the number of those who are to consume it … .[B]ut this proportion must in every nation be regulated by two different circumstances;
- first, by the skill, dexterity, and judgment with which its labour is generally applied; and,
- secondly, by the proportion between the number of those who are employed in useful labour, and that of those who are not so employed [emphasis added].
Smith added, however, that the "abundance or scantiness of this supply too seems to depend more upon the former of those two circumstances than upon the latter."
(Adam Smith)
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07-21-2017, 10:26 AM
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Your ilks' criticism of Trump is loud, shrill and very, very petty, mistake.
You fault Trump for his ability to successfully conduct business according to rules established by previous administrations, mistake, and you're green with envy. Likewise, Trump didn't make the election rules, mistake, he just played the game exceedingly well, and you and your ilk are pissed that he won.
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I'm actually glad Trump won....we'd be having the exact same investigations except it would be against Bill and Hillary.
Trump is funnier to watch.
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07-21-2017, 10:39 AM
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I'm actually glad Trump won....we'd be having the exact same investigations except it would be against Bill and Hillary.
Trump is funnier to watch. 
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I totally agree. its even funnier listening to the Trump supporters scream and cry, wailing about the Trump investigations.
The GOHP has been investigating the Clintos for 30 years.
Trumps a pussy. He was 6 months yesterday. Hes already looking for a way out.
He doesnt want the truth to come out
His Suiters are already senseing what a phony he is
1 in 8 Trump voters would change thier vote
Where would that take the 3 million more Hillary votes
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07-21-2017, 11:12 AM
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I'm actually glad Trump won....we'd be having the exact same investigations except it would be against Bill and Hillary.
Trump is funnier to watch. 
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There are still numerous investigations against hildebeest still on going.
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I totally agree. its even funnier listening to the Trump supporters scream and cry, wailing about the Trump investigations.
The GOHP has been investigating the Clintos for 30 years.
Trumps a pussy. He was 6 months yesterday. Hes already looking for a way out.
He doesnt want the truth to come out
His Suiters are already senseing what a phony he is
1 in 8 Trump voters would change thier vote
Where would that take the 3 million more Hillary votes
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hildebeest is still more unpopular than Trump.
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Finally, a Poll Trump Will Like: hildebeest Is Even More Unpopular
Trump’s 2016 Democratic rival is viewed favorably by just 39 percent of Americans in the latest Bloomberg National Poll, two points lower than the president. It’s the second-lowest score for Clinton since the poll started tracking her in September 2009.
(Bloomberg)
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07-21-2017, 11:23 AM
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The same difference that exist between an out of control forest fire and a controlled, wood-land burn, Ekim the Inbred Chimp: one is beneficial and the other is destructive, you ignorant slut.

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Which one took your job ekim the inbred chimp?
Stupid cunt.
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07-21-2017, 11:26 AM
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The same difference that exist between an out of control forest fire and a controlled, wood-land burn, Ekim the Inbred Chimp: one is beneficial and the other is destructive, you ignorant slut.

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Which one took your job ekim the inbred chimp?
Stupid cunt. Best job you ever had.
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07-21-2017, 11:28 AM
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There are still numerous investigations against hildebeest still on going.
hildebeest is still more unpopular than Trump.
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Same poll that said Hillary would win, ekim?
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07-21-2017, 11:30 AM
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Which one took your job ekim the inbred chimp?
Stupid cunt. Best job you ever had.

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You'd be the hunt-and-pecker in a Kansas barnyard, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.
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07-21-2017, 11:32 AM
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You'd be the hunt-and-pecker in a Kansas barnyard, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.
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You are the one who always finds a pecker ekim you inbred chimp.
Stupid fucking lemming.
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