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Old 07-18-2018, 11:46 AM   #31
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Well yes, that's precisely the point. If your loved one is killed by a fellow citizen, that's bad enough. But if your loved one is murdered by someone who shouldn't even be in our country, then your grief is greatly compounded! You can't help but blame your own government for letting it happen by failing to secure our borders.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?
One of the 2 men was in the country legally. No, to me dead is dead. I do not worry about being the victim of a homicide. If I was a victim of homicide, research tends to show that it is more likely that the killer would NOT be an illegal immigrant, since illegal immigrants have a lower crime rate than legal residents.

As we said, there aren’t readily available nationwide crime statistics broken down by immigration status. But the available research that estimates the relationship between illegal immigration and crime generally shows an association with lower crime rates.


https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/is...or-less-crime/

I am all for reducing illegal immigration into this country. How best to do it is up for discussion.

But my original point remains the same -- the primary reason for the original post in this thread was to spew hatred towards ALL illegal immigrants based on the actions of one.
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:52 AM   #32
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So why welcome more problems into our country don't we have enough with our crazy citizens running around killing each other,. No, not racist, fact.
I don't know where you get your "fact" from. My guess is that illegal immigrants worker harder, longer, for less pay than others. They do jobs that most people in this country do not want to do. Take a look at the list of jobs that illegal immigrants fill in this country and let me know which one you would like to do.

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2016/11/0...grant-workers/
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Why is it the left doesn't understand that we have marginalized citizens that would work these jobs. For Example-- There are a lot of non violent prisoners being released that cannot find employment because of their record. They would be happy to take these jobs in order to get a new start on life.

The left's attitude towards our U.S. citizens is appalling.




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I don't know where you get your "fact" from. My guess is that illegal immigrants worker harder, longer, for less pay than others. They do jobs that most people in this country do not want to do. Take a look at the list of jobs that illegal immigrants fill in this country and let me know which one you would like to do.

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2016/11/0...grant-workers/
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Old 07-18-2018, 12:52 PM   #34
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One of the 2 men was in the country legally. No, to me dead is dead. I do not worry about being the victim of a homicide. If I was a victim of homicide, research tends to show that it is more likely that the killer would NOT be an illegal immigrant, since illegal immigrants have a lower crime rate than legal residents.

As we said, there aren’t readily available nationwide crime statistics broken down by immigration status. But the available research that estimates the relationship between illegal immigration and crime generally shows an association with lower crime rates.


https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/is...or-less-crime/

I am all for reducing illegal immigration into this country. How best to do it is up for discussion.

But my original point remains the same -- the primary reason for the original post in this thread was to spew hatred towards ALL illegal immigrants based on the actions of one.
Bogus, bull shit argument, speedy. Try to peddle your shit to the women this illegal raped, speedy:


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The 36-year-old was arrested last week on multiple allegations, including four counts of felony rape. He is jailed in lieu of $4.2 million in bail and is scheduled to appear in court Tuesday.

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Old 07-19-2018, 07:59 AM   #35
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****sigh****

Why is it the left doesn't understand that we have marginalized citizens that would work these jobs. For Example-- There are a lot of non violent prisoners being released that cannot find employment because of their record. They would be happy to take these jobs in order to get a new start on life.

The left's attitude towards our U.S. citizens is appalling.
You and I live in the Austin area. When I drive around town I see signs in probably 50% of retail establishments asking for people to work for them. Obviously most of the jobs are low-paying and require physical rather than mental labor.

So don't tell me that there are not job opportunities for those that want them. Your statement that non-violent ex-prisoners are barred from most of these low-paying jobs is total BS.

http://www.jailtojob.com/companies-hire-felons.html

https://www.monster.com/career-advic...usiness-pledge

https://helpforfelons.org/high-paying-jobs-for-felons/
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Old 07-19-2018, 04:24 PM   #36
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Just because you think or feel something it is not always true. You seem to post a lot of factless opinions.
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:06 PM   #37
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Why is it the left doesn't understand that we have marginalized citizens that would work these jobs. For Example-- There are a lot of non violent prisoners being released that cannot find employment because of their record. They would be happy to take these jobs in order to get a new start on life.

The left's attitude towards our U.S. citizens is appalling.
As someone who is technically a criminal yourself, do you feel threatened by the Latinas and Asians in the business?
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Old 07-19-2018, 05:31 PM   #38
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As someone who is technically a criminal yourself, do you feel threatened by the Latinas and Asians in the business?

"Johns" are criminals too. in case you didn't know ..

remember that at your next "rub and tug" session. don't let it spoil your futile attempts to "drop the thong".

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Old 07-19-2018, 07:36 PM   #39
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.b91056aebe25

Just because you think or feel something it is not always true. You seem to post a lot of factless opinions.

100% of the illegal aliens have committed a crime. I don't know of anyone wanting to stop immagrants from coming here. Just do it legally. How hard is that to understand?
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"Johns" are criminals too. in case you didn't know ..

remember that at your next "rub and tug" session. don't let it spoil your futile attempts to "drop the thong".

bahahahahahahaa

so goes the thong removal expert.. or is it tong removal expert?
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...illegal immigrants have a lower crime rate than legal residents....the available research... estimates the relationship between illegal immigration and crime generally shows an association with lower crime rates.
Oh, my!

First, I am told illegal immigrants "live in the shadows" and are afraid to go to the police and report crime out of fear of being deported. This argument is usually trotted out as a reason to grant amnesty to illegals.

Then people like speedy come along and argue - with a straight face - that statistics prove illegal immigrant crime rates are lower than those of legal citizens.

You can't have it both ways, speedy.

If illegals don't report crimes, then official crime statistics are meaningless, unreliable, and biased toward severely understating actual crime rates within the illegal immigrant community.

How hard is THAT for you to understand?
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No, to me dead is dead.
Think about what you're saying. If you're dead it doesn't matter who killed you. How about your family? Does it matter to them? They're alive and presumably grieving. They're thinking about how you would still be alive if the federal government did its job and secured the border. I have enough empathy to understand that. Why can't you?
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Think about what you're saying. If you're dead it doesn't matter who killed you. How about your family? Does it matter to them? They're alive and presumably grieving. They're thinking about how you would still be alive if the federal government did its job and secured the border. I have enough empathy to understand that. Why can't you?
speedy is brain dead and can't comprehend that any crime committed by an illegal is a crime that could have and should have been prevented at the border days, weeks, months and years before an American citizen was victimized by the illegal.
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People who know me know I am one of the most logical people around. Very little emotion involved in my decision-making... YOU are the one who is dealing with emotions by asking "What if it were your mom and child".
Wow... I mean, just wow.

The left always tries to appeal to emotion over reason, ESPECIALLY on immigration! For years you have been whining - how can conservatives be so cruel and lacking in compassion or empathy? How can they favor deporting illegal immigrant families? Boo hoo!

And for years, we tried to reason with you. Rule of law. Fairness to those who enter the country legally. Keeping us safe, especially after 9/11. Stop depressing unskilled wages. But all of our appeals to reason fell on deaf ears.

So now we are engaging in YOUR tactics. We're appealing to raw emotion. We're talking about Angel families and MS-13 atrocities.

And you don't like it. Not one bit.

Like all liberals, you know how to dish it out - but you can't take a dose of your own medicine.

Your "empathy" has always been highly selective. You feel empathy when you hear stories about illegals and their hardships - but you listen stoically to stories about their victims. Your disingenuousness is exposed.

It's obvious you pretend to feel emotion only when it fits your liberal agenda.
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100% of the illegal aliens have committed a crime. I don't know of anyone wanting to stop immagrants from coming here. Just do it legally. How hard is that to understand?
That is not really the issue here. My reply was to the lie that most crimes are committed by immigrants. You assertion is a typical conservative way of gaming the numbers. I am pretty sure the phrase " Interquartile range" was coined by a conservative.
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