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		|  12-04-2018, 12:17 PM | #16 |  
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					Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought  when the tactic is to investigate an individual until some unrelated crime has been found and not investigate a crime itself, as a means of getting to another in some fashion,its quite easy to believe corsi
 when even judges have expressed skepticism at Mueller's tactics, its quite easy to believe corsi
 
 when you construct your entire team with left wing partisans, some of whom have been quilty of prosecutorial misconduct in the past, its quite easy to believe corsi
 
 when defendants are increasingly fighting back even in the face of financial ruin, when prosecutors can easily enough expand the time to closure as a pressure tactic, its easy to believe corsi
 
 when this investigation wasn't based on evidence of a crime but in order to find evidence of a crime, and is of an extreme political nature, its easy to believe corsi
 
 when there is an array of malformations in the doj and has political leanings, its easy to believe corsi
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Easy for you to believe...you do not speak for me.
 
You probably believed Corsi when he claimed Obama was not born in this country!     |  
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		|  12-04-2018, 01:03 PM | #17 |  
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					Originally Posted by gnadfly   where we are threatening 70+ yo "conspiracy theorists" with jail time. |  
Are you talking about Trump or Corsi?
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		|  12-04-2018, 01:04 PM | #18 |  
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					Originally Posted by gnadfly  Then why investigate him?  Why seize his records?  Why threaten to throw him in jail?
 Makes no sense.  You aren't the only person I've seen this from.
 
 I've never heard of Corsi until a few days ago.  Why have we even reached this point?  Mueller should have had something the first couple of months.  Now it appears to be a fishing expedition and witch hunt where we are threatening 70+ yo "conspiracy theorists" with jail time.
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Why has every other political investigation taken years, many or most with no convictions or indictments, but the Russian probe with 36 indictments and 5 guilty pleas should have only taken 2 months? Im not sure i can even comprehend that logic. They sure have caught a lot of witches and fish
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		|  12-04-2018, 01:36 PM | #19 |  
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			Given Mueller's history and convictions for misconduct, Corsi will likely get to take the case to court. That puts Mueller in trouble as he is not used to people fighting back. When they do, they win. See Senator Stevens, Enron, Hatfill, the four innocent men in Boston.  All this "investigation" has found are decade old tax evasion charges and process crimes. Heck, even liberals like Dershowitz are calling Mueller out and openly questioning his tactics.
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		|  12-04-2018, 01:44 PM | #20 |  
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			Given Mueller's history of (and convictions for) misconduct, Corsi should get to make his case. Senator Stevens, Enron, Hatfill, four innocent men in Boston, there is definitely a pattern of behavior. Judges do tend to frown on threatening witnesses and trying to suborn perjury. Again, acts Mueller has been convicted of.
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		|  12-04-2018, 03:12 PM | #21 |  
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					Originally Posted by gnadfly  Then why investigate him?  Why seize his records?  Why threaten to throw him in jail?
 Makes no sense.  You aren't the only person I've seen this from.
 
 I've never heard of Corsi until a few days ago.  Why have we even reached this point?  Mueller should have had something the first couple of months.  Now it appears to be a fishing expedition and witch hunt where we are threatening 70+ yo "conspiracy theorists" with jail time.
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Should have had something in the first few months? This train just started rolling friend. 36 indictments,5 convictions and counting. pretty successful fishing expedition. Yep no Russian collusion with Mr Putin yet. Just pure coincidence that his campaign manager Manafort-(who was deeply connected with Russia), Nation Security adviser Flynn-for lies about Russia, his lawyer for campaign money violations and lying about his involvement with Russia, his former Attorney general Sessions recused himself because of his involvement with Russia. You've never heard about Corsi until a few days ago but you assume hes an innocent victim of a witch hunt. Thats interesting sir
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		|  12-04-2018, 03:46 PM | #22 |  
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			You're skeptical? 
That's rich. This is the liar in chief's DOJ with a republican Special Counsel. 
And yet only the base, and the indicted, are calling foul. 
From day 1 at the start of the investigation I thought  
Mueller would be fair. 
He hasn't been talking. 
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					Originally Posted by friendly fred  The special counsel requires oversight, and he must prove his case.
 Certainly, we hope he is conducting an honest investigation, but the liberals so desperately need to show they were right that it is not impossible they are putting a few extra pounds on the scale, so we remain skeptical, as any reasonable party would be.
 
 Jerome Corsi deserves consideration.
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		|  12-04-2018, 05:20 PM | #23 |  
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					Originally Posted by gnadfly  Then why investigate him?  Why seize his records?  Why threaten to throw him in jail?
 Makes no sense.  You aren't the only person I've seen this from.
 
 I've never heard of Corsi until a few days ago.  Why have we even reached this point?  Mueller should have had something the first couple of months.  Now it appears to be a fishing expedition and witch hunt where we are threatening 70+ yo "conspiracy theorists" with jail time.
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exactly. as we all should know, Mueller's two mandates were collusion with Russia and obstruction of justice for "asking" Comey to "go easy" on Flynn then firing him. 
 
so far all we have is a bunch of ad's facebook allowed to run and some meaningless indictments of Russian "state sanctioned" hackers posting inflammatory comments. 
 
in other words ... 
 
a NOTHING BURGER
 
bhahhaaa
 
as for the so-called obstruction of justice charge, why isn't Mueller investigating Rod Rosenstein? he was the one who recommended firing Comey .. 
 
BAHAAAAA
 
here's another item to note for the various anti-trump factions .. by general policy the DOJ does not publish a report if no charges are recommended. So what will the liberal left do when Mueller closes the investigation reporting only that no evidence was found? 
   
BAHAAAAA
 
and this .. 
   
BAHAHAAAA
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		|  12-04-2018, 06:22 PM | #24 |  
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					Originally Posted by themystic  Great post Fred. Not many open minded people on your side of this forum. The extra pounds is very possible and maybe even probable. Most prosecutors I know do get a little over zealous. The skepticism is easy to understand and legit. Corsi does deserve a chance. He has made his career with "Tabloid fodder so its hard to separate fact from fiction. There have many guilty pleas or convictions from top level Trump cronies and yet the Trumpers refuse to accept them as truth. That's a big part of the skepticism on the left. Trump is a habitual pathological liar and yet his supporters deny truth when he is caught in provable lies
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Thank you kind sir. I'm rather humble about my open mindedness, but it is rather evident from time to time.
 
I appreciate your input from time to time, too.
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		|  12-04-2018, 06:23 PM | #25 |  
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					Originally Posted by Munchmasterman  You're skeptical?That's rich. This is the liar in chief's DOJ with a republican Special Counsel.
 And yet only the base, and the indicted, are calling foul.
 From day 1 at the start of the investigation I thought
 Mueller would be fair.
 He hasn't been talking.
 Is that why you're afraid of him?
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Why would I be afraid of the special counsel?
 
I'm completely innocent.
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		|  12-04-2018, 06:53 PM | #26 |  
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					Originally Posted by I B Hankering    Odumbo is the original "birther".  Odumbo promoted his book by claiming he was born in Kenya.  Therefore, many here will accept your rationale that Odumbo has a low IQ. |  
I looked that up on Snopes figuring it was forged.  I was wrong. It was indeed published by Obama's literary agent.  Breitbart publicized it, although Andrew Breitbart noted in a disclaimer that he believed Barack Obama was born in Honolulu.
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		|  12-04-2018, 07:01 PM | #27 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tiny  I looked that up on Snopes figuring it was forged.  I was wrong. It was indeed published by Obama's literary agent.  Breitbart publicized it, although Andrew Breitbart noted in a disclaimer that he believed Barack Obama was born in Honolulu. |  
it doesn't matter what his literary agent stated, with or without Obama's "Proof reading" approval. 
 
all that matters is unless his mother renounced her US citizenship before he was born then he's a US citizen. 
 
there is no evidence she did so. 
 
let's not forget the real origin of the "birther" issue ... operatives for Hillary Clinton in 2008 planted the story when Obama began to surge ahead of her in the primaries.
 
 BAHAAA
 
and notice i said primary not polls. you know .. what really counts ..    |  
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