And so it begins....the democratic debate

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

chester had his papers burned after he died.


guess we'll never know.

We "know" Arthur was a "Stalwart", but he was in no manner an associate of Guiteau. But the stigma was there; thus, Arthur did not receive an endorsement from the party to run for a second term.

Guiteau was a looney-tune, and Garfield's doctors were incompetent.

The question about Arthur's birth place is unprovable one way or the other.

[gfejunkie]

Originally Posted by gfejunkie

Winner - Trump

NBC News agrees...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...trump-n1023086

[the_real_Barleycorn]

You know Joe Biden, if he sees an advantage he'll get breast implants and wear brown face.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Ha! I do love Trump but I'm watching these debates with an eye out for someone that could beat Trump. I haven't seen anyone yet that could do it. Let me ask you - do you think one of the Dem candidates can beat Trump. I know it's early
but what the heck.

To answer your question -- yes, Trump can be beaten in November 2020.

Trump supporters continue to downplay the closeness of the 2016 election. Trump carried 4 states -- Florida, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania -- by ridiculously small margins. Right now Trump is not doing well in those states, other than Florida. His approval rating has dropped considerably in those states since he was elected and the 2018 midterms, albeit without his name on the ballot, showed Democratic candidates winning easily, again except for Florida. Add in Arizona which is turning bluer each year and you have a race.

I have made 2 predictions thus far. Michigan will go Democratic in 2020 and the electoral vote will be closer in 2020 than it was in 2016. I'll make a 3rd prediction. Meaningless as it is, the Democratic nominee will win the popular vote by more than Clinton did in 2016. Other than that, much too early to assume anything. We are in the first mile of a marathon (26 miles, 385 yards).

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

Biden or Harris. I don't think any of the others could win the electoral college against Trump.

Obviously Biden, as the Democratic front runner, is going to be attacked by the other candidates. He held his own for the most part but Harris was the clear winner for the night. Solid performance.

And I have to agree with Ellen on one thing -- Mayor Pete, although I don't see him winning the nomination, was very credible.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

If you look at the condition of Great Bend the good ole Pete is less than credible. He's another Obama. He's just marking time and checking boxes until he can get into the Oval Office.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Obviously Biden, as the Democratic front runner, is going to be attacked by the other candidates. He held his own for the most part
.

biden drifted off into incomplete sentences and garbled senility

he showed he needs the early bird debate

it was alarming

and this far out from the election....its only going to get worse

[Austin Ellen]

Ok so the new guy I liked is Andrew Yang. Has some good ideas. He's likable.

But after every candidate raised their hand for heath coverage for illegals - I predict a landslide for Trump.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by Austin Ellen

Ok so the new guy I liked is Andrew Yang. Has some good ideas. He's likable.

But after every candidate raised their hand for heath coverage for illegals - I predict a landslide for Trump.

Yang will be one of the first to drop out.

Of course you predict a Trump landslide. You also predicted Republicans would hold the House in 2018. Tell me why you think he will win Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Arizona. With FACTS to support your opinion.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Yang will be one of the first to drop out.

Of course you predict a Trump landslide. You also predicted Republicans would hold the House in 2018. Tell me why you think he will win Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Arizona. With FACTS to support your opinion.

He’s won those states before. Not one Democrat has. That’s the only fact one can go on. Polls at this time mean nothing. So do opinions.

[Austin Ellen]

That's interesting. I disagree. I think Yang will be able to hang in there once his message gets out. But we'll see who's right.

Speedracer, Yes, I predicted a House win. They were able to keep the Senate so I consider that a win. Plus we have the Presidency so that is 2/3 which is greater then 1/3. I don't understand why you'all think that was such a great win? It was a win surely, but not a great one.
Anyway, I don't have facts to back up what I think the American public is going to do. But I know one thing. Midwesterner's aren't going to go for free healthcare for illegals. That,to me, is a no brainer.
Not one of their candidates addressed the homeless problem in America. Not one.
They need to look in their own backyard first.

And before anybody can say "what about Trump" - He quietly signed an executive order this week to launch a new council on affordable housing. In effect, he's trying to get rid of the red tape that is hindering affordable housing. Bet you didn't see that on CNN.

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Yang will be one of the first to drop out.

Of course you predict a Trump landslide. You also predicted Republicans would hold the House in 2018. Tell me why you think he will win Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Arizona. With FACTS to support your opinion.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

We have a shitload of veterans still needing help. I think they should go to the front of the line ahead of illegals.

[I B Hankering]

[Ex-CEO]

Hey, Hankering.


Love that meme.


That's fucking brilliant!

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by bambino

He’s won those states before. Not one Democrat has. That’s the only fact one can go on. Polls at this time mean nothing. So do opinions.

Yes, Trump won those states before but that has little meaning 4 years later. How many states that Bush won in 1988 deserted him in 1992?

Trump does not think the polls mean nothing. He is on high alert because of the polls showing him losing in key battleground states. Much of that many millions of dollars he has recently gotten will be quickly directed towards voters in those states based on those polling numbers.

As for opinions meaning nothing. Very true but they make for interesting conversation.

"So, early polls cannot "call the race." But they can point a candidacy in a particular direction, right or wrong. They can lead to complacency, or they can offer insight into the state of political opinion and the mix of national sentiments.

Taken seriously, and taken in concert with other sources of intelligence, early polls can act as a corrective for a presidency at risk.

We can read today's polls, then, and ask why Trump is not doing better in the midst of relative peace, low unemployment and interest rates, and a soaring stock market. We can also observe that he loses these hypothetical matchups despite overwhelming approval ratings among Republicans.

Is there something he is doing that keeps his base firm but prevents its expansion? Are there ways the president can alter his approach and keep his friends close, while alienating fewer potential swing voters?

So far, his reelection strategy seems centered on his base and the most provocative issues and behaviors that bind him to it. These include his hard line on immigration, tough talk on trade and bellicose attitude toward foreign adversaries — as well as his confrontational personal style.

Defenders say "it's worked for him so far," and that is true. But if the current polls mean anything, they mean that what has worked for him has limits. The signals are there to be seen."

https://www.npr.org/2019/06/26/73456...-he-calls-fake