Anybody Have A Demographic Breakdown Of COVID Deaths

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Sienna91

So was that roughly 88% of all people we're over 60?

Now I'm really questioning why they are closing schools

The children transmit the disease to older people. I read somewhere that the elderly receive more protection from younger people being vaccinated for the flu than they do themselves. This is because the vaccine doesn't work as well in the elderly.

[Sienna91]

Originally Posted by Tiny

The children transmit the disease to older people. I read somewhere that the elderly receive more protection from younger people being vaccinated for the flu than they do themselves. This is because the vaccine doesn't work as well in the elderly.

If older people get it from younger people then instead of shutting schools down then older people should shelter in place .

It literally makes more sense to protect a smaller population then to have parents and kids who are not a part of the population that would die from this disease be out of work and out of school and scrambling trying to figure out child care and how to pay bills

Now in bigger cities where it's a lot of people greatly affected and there's no way to keep the kids from the older people because they're so close together of course you might want to have everything closed down

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Sienna91

If older people get it from younger people then instead of shutting schools down then older people should shelter in place .

It literally makes more sense to protect a smaller population then to have parents and kids who are not a part of the population that would die from this disease be out of work and out of school and scrambling trying to figure out child care and how to pay bills

Now in bigger cities where it's a lot of people greatly affected and there's no way to keep the kids from the older people because they're so close together of course you might want to have everything closed down

You've still got a significant number of fatalities of people in their 60's. And in their 50's too based on other data sets, besides the one FF presented. But yes, your argument has merit.

[Sienna91]

Originally Posted by Tiny

It happened in Wuhan. An assisted living facility in New Jersey asked for 17 body bags. It's happening in Italy and Spain. I'd call it factual instead of overdramatization.

I get that what I'm saying is every time a person dies from my understanding you have to cover up a body to transfer it to another place

It doesn't matter if you die of a car wreck, murder, the flu they have always put bodies in bags if they have to take bodies one from one place to another

it didn't start with coronavirus and it won't end after this is over with is what I'm saying

[Sienna91]

for the peoples in their fifties and sixties that have small children it seems those kids should have the right to be homeschooled and that family isolated if that's what they choose to do

basically my point is we need to look at things on an individual basis instead of just shutting everybody down

[eccieuser9500]

Coronavirus World Map: Tracking The Spread Of The Outbreak




https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...rus-in-the-u-s

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Sienna91

I get that what I'm saying is every time a person dies from my understanding you have to cover up a body to transfer it to another place

It doesn't matter if you die of a car wreck, murder, the flu they have always put bodies in bags if they have to take bodies one from one place to another

it didn't start with coronavirus and it won't end after this is over with is what I'm saying

It's not normal to have a rest home in New Jersey request body bags for seventeen corpses that have piled up in the facility. It's not normal either to have gurneys in hospital hallways with dead bodies like what we saw in videos from Italy. This shows what happens to health systems when the new coronavirus gets out of control. You can make economic arguments and you may be right but when Americans see things like this happening on television here, the economic arguments won't matter.

The best way out of this and back to some degree of normalcy is testing, tracing and masks. Can our institutions and governments implement those measures and get out ahead of this? That remains to be seen.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Sienna91

for the peoples in their fifties and sixties that have small children it seems those kids should have the right to be homeschooled and that family isolated if that's what they choose to do

basically my point is we need to look at things on an individual basis instead of just shutting everybody down

We wouldn't be in a position of having everything shut down if we had an extremely competent government, like South Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Sweden, etc. They knew what to do. We did too, but it didn't happen. And we could dig ourselves out of this hole by putting the proper resources into testing and tracing. The cost would be a small fraction of what we're spending on unemployment insurance, support for businesses, etc. Until that happens you're probably looking at a good chunk of the country being half closed, and situations like what we saw in NYC, Italy and Spain developing in some of the areas that open back up prematurely without adequate social distancing.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Tiny

The children transmit the disease to older people. I read somewhere that the elderly receive more protection from younger people being vaccinated for the flu than they do themselves. This is because the vaccine doesn't work as well in the elderly.

Do you believe that?

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Do you believe that?

Well I did until you asked the question and I found this, which contradicts some of what I said:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5812289/

I did read something earlier about it being a challenge to develop a vaccine for the new coronavirus that would be effective in older adults.

Do I believe that vaccinating younger people helps older people? Of course -- you're creating herd immunity.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by Tiny

It's not normal to have a rest home in New Jersey request body bags for seventeen corpses that have piled up in the facility. ....

I believe its "normal." I remember seeing an Italian clip about a guy who was living with his sister who died of COVID. It was taking days for the govt to come pick up the body. He kept calling as the body rotted. Eventually the Italians sent in a private contractor.

Don't think when shit falls apart economically that things will just magically work. There may have been issues with the nursing home. The municipality may not want to pick them up. The morgue may not want to accept them. The funding of the private ambulance may not be there. The driver may not have protective gear.

That's why important to get people back to work.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

You imply many a thing. Are those the things that make your life good? In other words, is that what good looks like?

You can live in South Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Sweden if it's important to you. Yet you do not. How come?

I see you are advocating for 'tracing'. Do you know what contact tracing is?

You good with keeping distance from everyone for evah?

Originally Posted by Tiny

We wouldn't be in a position of having everything shut down if we had an extremely competent government, like South Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Sweden, etc. They knew what to do. We did too, but it didn't happen. And we could dig ourselves out of this hole by putting the proper resources into testing and tracing. The cost would be a small fraction of what we're spending on unemployment insurance, support for businesses, etc. Until that happens you're probably looking at a good chunk of the country being half closed, and situations like what we saw in NYC, Italy and Spain developing in some of the areas that open back up prematurely without adequate social distancing.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Tiny

We wouldn't be in a position of having everything shut down if we had an extremely competent government, like South Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Sweden, etc. They knew what to do. We did too, but it didn't happen.

They probably weren't conducting a bogus impeachment.

The LOONS, like you, who compare what small countries do as a model for the United States ought to do forget something intentionally .... or are just plain ignorant. Those governments with smaller populations operate under a different set of rules than the U.S. and the citizens are accustomed to being herded like sheep. For instance ... do they have a constitution containing a "First Amendment" similar to the U.S. Bill of Rights?

Please return to your AntiTrump whining.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Do you believe that?

He does in April 2020. Next month or next year it depends.

Just like he wanted The President to start issuing orders for citizens to stay at home and not got to work in January 2020 during the IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS .... so he could whine about how dumb Trump is and that Trump was just trying to divert attention away from the bogus Impeachment his party was jamming down the throats of the U.S. citizens while the virus was spreading around the world.

But Little Tiny was worried about the effects of licking asses ...

Remember all the LOONS in the media trashing Trump for shutting down air travel?

[Sienna91]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Well I did until you asked the question and I found this, which contradicts some of what I said:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5812289/

I did read something earlier about it being a challenge to develop a vaccine for the new coronavirus that would be effective in older adults.

Do I believe that vaccinating younger people helps older people? Of course -- you're creating herd immunity.

We can't force young people to get a vaccine to protect older people the best course of action would be developing a vaccine that works for older people who could get that if they choose