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			05-11-2020, 03:24 PM
			
			
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			I see a lot of longtime members that don't review. It hasn't hurt their "creds" I comment on reviews and add info if it's someone I've seen. I don't care about the ROS. I bought a month of PA and didn't find it useful. Also I've been cutting back on frequency of the hobby.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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They were those 'Ancient Aliens' as documented in their TV Shows. All cultures seem to have matching stories in this regards. 
			
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To your point, this painting from 1350 is interesting.
  
 
Also this one from 1486
  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-12-2020, 12:48 AM
			
			
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			Scientists have even found cave dwellings with similar art depictions on their walls going back thousands of years showing what appears as spacemen and spacecraft. Seem even cave men, kept their eyes on the skies...LOL
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-12-2020, 02:22 AM
			
			
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				Scientists have even found cave dwellings with similar art depictions on their walls going back thousands of years showing what appears as spacemen and spacecraft. Seem even cave men, kept their eyes on the skies...LOL 
			
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Yes. I've seen the cave dweller drawings too. The Dogon Tribe is also interesting. 
My first thought is always skepticism. Are the paintings authentic?  Like religion, we're presented with evidence that can't be personally verified. UFO and Paranormal are big money makers for publishers and TV. Discover Channel has had actors playing professors and expert historians for parody documentaries. We see faked art, documents, autographs and memorabilia all the time. 
As interesting as these paintings are, I'm equally, if not  more skeptical of their authenticity.  Even if they were proven to be authentic, is there a simple explanation for the depictions of  men in crude sky cans? They look more cartoonish than futuristic , like something from the Jetsons. Maybe it's  the artist's depiction of the holy spirit's presence at the crucifixion, or astral visitation. We'll never know for sure, but it's a fun topic for speculation.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				As interesting as these paintings are, I'm equally, if not  more skeptical of their authenticity.  Even if they were proven to be authentic, is there a simple explanation for the depictions of  men in crude sky cans? They look more cartoonish than futuristic , like something from the Jetsons. Maybe it's  the artist's depiction of the holy spirit's presence at the crucifixion, or astral visitation. We'll never know for sure, but it's a fun topic for speculation. 
			
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Some were carbon dated for authenticity. 
Hey don't think any Fred Flintstones back then were in the  Rembrandt class....lol
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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I didn't think they dated these yet, but I haven't really followed up with it over the past five or so years. 
 
Lol. Hanna-Barbera came a few years later.  
I meant that it looks more like a crudely drawn chariot than a craft.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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I meant that it looks more like a crudely drawn chariot than a craft. 
			
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Back then those were terms they were familiar with.
 
Chariots and if they flew, chariots of fire...lol
 
The universe is so vast there are no doubt tens of thousands of other planets, maybe more, with intelligent life. Some more primitive and some far superior to us.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Back then those were terms they were familiar with. 
 
Chariots and if they flew, chariots of fire...lol 
 
The universe is so vast there are no doubt tens of thousands of other planets, maybe more, with intelligent life. Some more primitive and some far superior to us. 
			
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I believe that. The. odds are almost impossible that only one planet would. support life or a form of intelligence that we.have yet to understand.  
I also live the idea of interdimensional beings and parallel universes. No idea if it exists , but how cool if it does.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				I didn't think they dated these yet, but I haven't really followed up with it over the past five or so years.  
 
Lol. Hanna-Barbera came a few years later.  
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				Back then those were terms they were familiar with. 
 
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				I believe that. The. odds are almost impossible that only one planet would. support life or a form of intelligence that we.have yet to understand.  
I also live the idea of interdimensional beings and parallel universes. No idea if it exists , but how cool if it does. 
			
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Hey.  Hey.  Hey. You guys are supposed to be bashing each others opinions! If you don't do it the way I want then I'm going to just say thank you and storm away all mad!!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Hey. Hey. Hey. You guys are supposed to be bashing each others opinions! If you don't do it the way I want then I'm going to just say thank you and storm away all mad!! 
			
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We do enough of that on politics. No reason to do it on other subjects. We've had good conversations outside of politics.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				We do enough of that on politics. No reason to do it on other subjects. We've had good conversations outside of politics. 
			
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But on the upside at least you at least you answered instead of stomping away all mad!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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