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		|  07-04-2020, 10:28 PM | #17 |  
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					Originally Posted by oeb11  So CT - agree or No????Like your history revised per marxist Orwellian  1984 standards - or accurate. ???
 What is your thought - PC filtered or not???
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agree.. well said, in fact.
 
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					Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid  No but there are plenty of decadent western strip bars .. and amps |  
absolutely FALSE.. whoever posted that is completely ignorant.
 
nothing even remotely close to a strip club.. no dancing girls of any kind, PERIOD.. no AMPs.. are you kidding me? this is an Authoritarian Communist Government, no way could a strip club or AMP make it one day without arrests being made.
 
now, of course there are covert and underground spots where one can score pussy.. but God help you if the Cops catch you. if you even rent a room where you are caught with a Prostitute, the room owner goes to jail with you.
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		|  07-05-2020, 12:27 AM | #18 |  
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha....  .......................
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		|  07-05-2020, 08:23 AM | #19 |  
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			CT- agree.. well said, in fact.
 
 Thank You , sir.
 
 
 
 Unfortunately - as you pointed out - nowhere are prudish standards enforced as rigidly as a Communist  Country.
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		|  07-05-2020, 08:56 AM | #20 |  
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					Originally Posted by Chung Tran  agree.. well said, in fact.
 absolutely FALSE.. whoever posted that is completely ignorant.
 
 nothing even remotely close to a strip club.. no dancing girls of any kind, PERIOD.. no AMPs.. are you kidding me? this is an Authoritarian Communist Government, no way could a strip club or AMP make it one day without arrests being made.
 
 now, of course there are covert and underground spots where one can score pussy.. but God help you if the Cops catch you. if you even rent a room where you are caught with a Prostitute, the room owner goes to jail with you.
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					Originally Posted by oeb11  CT- agree.. well said, in fact.
 Thank You , sir.
 
 Unfortunately - as you pointed out - nowhere are prudish standards enforced as rigidly as a Communist  Country.
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the 2nd link gives a caveat over this.  the writer warns that prositution is illegal in vietnam and goes on to say be safe and have fun.
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		|  07-05-2020, 09:12 AM | #21 |  
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					Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm  the 2nd link gives a caveat over this.  the writer warns that prositution is illegal in vietnam and goes on to say be safe and have fun. |  
that second link is almost as uninformative as the first.
 
I agree about the Karaoke narrative.. somewhat.. but the rest is rubbish. the writer is obviously a non-American, poor English skill. and anybody who tells you to go to Hanoi or Saigon is clearly an amateur. there are way more girls, opportunities, cheaper rates, outside of those cities. the writer probably has no clue about that.
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		|  07-05-2020, 10:39 AM | #22 |  
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					Originally Posted by oeb11  The Lib Dem history revisionists will not like the Fact that HoChiMinh approached the American government at the end of WW2 for help with vietnamese independence.
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The French asked the U.S. administration for assistance by the use of a low yield atomic bomb/device to be used against the insurgent forces opposing French occupation ..... which would require Senate approval .... LBJ was he swing vote and voted "No" which prevented the assistance from being delivered. 
 
I don't know what Ho Chi would want in the way of assistance. The French pulled out.....the Russian and Chinese influence filled the vacuum. It became Lyndon's demise. International irony ....
 
Like Biden's Chinese association and collusion bought and paid through his son.
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		|  07-05-2020, 02:26 PM | #23 |  
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					Originally Posted by Chung Tran  agree.. well said, in fact.
 
 
 absolutely FALSE.. whoever posted that is completely ignorant.
 
 nothing even remotely close to a strip club.. no dancing girls of any kind, PERIOD.. no AMPs.. are you kidding me? this is an Authoritarian Communist Government, no way could a strip club or AMP make it one day without arrests being made.
 
 now, of course there are covert and underground spots where one can score pussy.. but God help you if the Cops catch you. if you even rent a room where you are caught with a Prostitute, the room owner goes to jail with you.
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??? Maybe I shouldn't weigh in, as the only Vietnamese women I've banged weren't in Vietnam.  I did go into one massage place next to my hotel in HCMC, that had some very attractive women judging from the ones I saw walking out the door from time to time. But I ended up walking out because I couldn't communicate and didn't understand the system.  
 
I understand you can get laid in regular massage places, hotel massages, hot tocs and there's at least one freelance bar, Apocalypse Now.  Some of this stuff must be pretty out in the open.  I saw more than one barber shop with 10 or 20 hotties sitting around and no men.
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		|  07-05-2020, 06:45 PM | #24 |  
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			The Viet Minh victory at Dien Bien Phu  (1954) signaled the end of French colonial influence in Indochina and cleared  the way for the division of Vietnam along the 17th parallel at the  conference of Geneva.
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		|  07-05-2020, 10:18 PM | #25 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tiny  ??? Maybe I shouldn't weigh in, as the only Vietnamese women I've banged weren't in Vietnam.  I did go into one massage place next to my hotel in HCMC, that had some very attractive women judging from the ones I saw walking out the door from time to time. But I ended up walking out because I couldn't communicate and didn't understand the system.  
 I understand you can get laid in regular massage places, hotel massages, hot tocs and there's at least one freelance bar, Apocalypse Now.  Some of this stuff must be pretty out in the open.  I saw more than one barber shop with 10 or 20 hotties sitting around and no men.
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 hớt tóc.. same as Barber Shop/hair cut salon, LOL... "hot toc" looks funny in print.
 
it is NOT out in the open.. you can get an occasional hand job at a massage spot, or hớt tóc..chances are, though, if you are a "Westerner" they'll think they are being set up, and will probably refuse service in that manner.
 
Apocalypse now? sure.. I have been there, and it is mostly 3rd rate Hookers sitting around, hoping to clip a travelling American out of $100-$150, because the American doesn't know better, and is unable to score pussy another way. you would likely score a BETTER Hooker here, for the same price! also, Apocalypse Now gets shutdown every 2-3 months, pays a bribe to re-open.. there are several other joints that do the same. Vietnam may be hardcore communist, but money does a lot of talking with the police.
 
by the way, I won't be posting in the Political section for a while.. until about Labor Day. I am finding that it is hyper-policed, a thread I started yesterday was absurdly determined to be a rules violation, with a 10 point infraction. it's simply not worth spending time in this section.
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		|  07-05-2020, 11:11 PM | #26 |  
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					Originally Posted by Chung Tran  by the way, I won't be posting in the Political section for a while.. until about Labor Day. I am finding that it is hyper-policed, a thread I started yesterday was absurdly determined to be a rules violation, with a 10 point infraction. it's simply not worth spending time in this section. |  
 self imposed 3 month exile?  really?
 
is it this thread?
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		|  07-06-2020, 05:16 AM | #27 |  
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					Originally Posted by oeb11  The Viet Minh victory at Dien Bien Phu  (1954) signaled the end of French colonial influence in Indochina and cleared  the way for the division of Vietnam along the 17th parallel at the  conference of Geneva. |  
Not to be confused with the Geneva "conference" secretly attended by (Naval Officer) John Kerry while the U.S. was still engaged in hostilities in VN and BEFORE Kerry committed perjury before Congress!
 
The "victory" was more of a stalemate after the U.S. (LBJ!) voted against helping.
https://www.history.com/topics/franc...-dien-bien-phu 
By the late 50's the U.S. had a relatively significant presence in the region pursuant to Eisenhower's initiative with "advisers" who were quietly inserted into various areas/countries in the region. They were augmented with Naval air power.
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