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Old 08-05-2020, 01:04 PM   #16
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While that 13% number is correct, the more important number is, how many of that 13% actually commit violent crimes like murder and rape and that takes you down to about 6%.


So in effect, we have 6% of the population, Black males between 16 to 45 ( approx. ) committing approx. 50% or more of the violent crime.

When statistics prove that more white people are killed by police people ignore those numbers because black people make up a lower percentage of the population. When you bring up the fact that the same lower percentage of people commit over half of the violent crime you are a racist. Strange how that works. Not quite as strange as Lou picking a handle pronounced "loose bowels". That has to open him up to some very specific screening requirements.
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Old 08-05-2020, 01:16 PM   #17
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When statistics prove that more white people are killed by police people ignore those numbers because black people make up a lower percentage of the population. When you bring up the fact that the same lower percentage of people commit over half of the violent crime you are a racist. Strange how that works. Not quite as strange as Lou picking a handle pronounced "loose bowels". That has to open him up to some very specific screening requirements.



so facts are racist. interesting view. what other facts do you find racist? or just inconvenient?
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Old 08-05-2020, 01:32 PM   #18
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While you are lucky as am I to be living in a neighborhood not plagued by gun violence, we are the exception to what many Black neighborhoods go through.





If you disagree with anything I have just said, please, let me know.

This part. I've said more than once that I live in a neighborhood that, according to the stats, is a "bad neighborhood". My point was, my being "white" hasn't impacted me living here. I'm not a target for the crime because I simply don't get involved in activities that make me a target. 80% or more of the people of color who are killed by other people of color-- tend to be engaged in criminal enterprise. Most folk aren't randomly running around and shooting people for sport. There is a good bit of gun violence in my neighborhood... we generally don't go a month without someone being shot within a 10 block radius.



I don't have a tall fence around my property. I have a regular chain link fence in my backyard for my doggos, but that's it. I have cameras on the property and I have an alarm system, along with a couple of personal weapons in the event someone were to try to come into my home-- but it hasn't been an issue. I was broken into twice when I lived in a "nicer, white neighborhood".... by the heroin junkies that were rampant on that side of town. Here? Kids want to help carry in my groceries if they see me.



People have this perception that predominantly black, high crime areas are just these war zones where walking to your car will get you shot. This isn't the movies. If you don't go looking for trouble, you're generally not going to find trouble.


OEB-- my stats above come from the FBI crime data tables. You'll have to do the math to get the percentages... but statistically speaking most white people are killed by whites.. and most black people are killed by blacks. The issue with the black people being killed by police are when we're talking about unarmed people.. or situations where the person killed didn't "have" to be killed to preserve the life of the officer. Some cases that the movement grabs onto-- aren't as striking as others.
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Old 08-05-2020, 01:33 PM   #19
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Smoke puppy.- "When you bring up the fact that the same lower percentage of people commit over half of the violent crime you are a racist. "



Poster made the post - Bottomline - anyone who disagrees with the puppy brigade is a racist. and - posting FACTS that are not in the poster's narrative is RACISM!!!
They cannot see that their stand is inherently racist in itself.



Lol - next time try to make some reasonable sense of your racism - or just go join OBLM and convert to the gay lifestyle.
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Old 08-05-2020, 01:37 PM   #20
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Grace - my prayers for your safety.

I do agree with your conclusions in general.
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Old 08-05-2020, 01:40 PM   #21
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Grace - my prayers for your safety.

I do agree with your conclusions in general.



That's just it.. I've never felt unsafe living here. Family members have expressed concerns.. until they visit and realize the image portrayed in the media and film.. isn't really reality.
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Just judging by my locality, but my gut says is likely true, that most violent crime is less related to race than it is to drug trade regardless of race. No one seems to discuss that factor.
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Just judging by my locality, but my gut says is likely true, that most violent crime is less related to race than it is to drug trade regardless of race. No one seems to discuss that factor.

Bingo!


My block.. doesn't have a lot of trouble due to the fact that the one or two enterprising men on our block, only participate in the green and leafy trade. Go a couple blocks in any direction.. the trade gets harder and the crime goes up.
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so facts are racist. interesting view. what other facts do you find racist? or just inconvenient?

I was noting the clear flaw in the logic. Seemed obvious.
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Old 08-05-2020, 03:48 PM   #25
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Depends on your race, I suppose--- seeing that most white folk are murdered by other white folk... and most black folk are murdered by other black folk.
Well if that's all true there really isn't a race problem. It's a brotherhood issue.
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Oh there are plenty of race problems. You don't have to murder a man to be a racist fuckwit.
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Oh there are plenty of race problems. You don't have to murder a man to be a racist fuckwit.
You totally have him pegged regarding the fuckwit observation....kudos.
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You totally have him pegged regarding the fuckwit observation....kudos.

Don't Kudo me... I'm not here to score any kind of "dig" points. I don't assume anyone on this forum to be anything until they are blatant about it.. and I'm not seeing that. Disagreeing doesn't patently make one racist... being a fucking racist makes one racist.
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Don't Kudo me... I'm not here to score any kind of "dig" points. I don't assume anyone on this forum to be anything until they are blatant about it.. and I'm not seeing that. Disagreeing doesn't patently make one racist... being a fucking racist makes one racist.



I may have "Kudo'd you once back in the ASPD days....
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