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Originally Posted by matchingmole
Mexico will pay for it
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they are. note the source .. NBC News
i have removed all the far leftist links trying desperately to make a case for ILLEGAL immigration and whitewash protecting the US border no matter who does it.. the US or Mexico. or both. all far leftists who hate America may read them by clicking on the provided link below.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...wn-ncna1119466
Trump did get Mexico to build a wall — of its troops on its own southern border
It might not be a concrete barrier overlooking the Rio Grande, but Mexico's president has given Trump a big helping hand with immigration enforcement.
Jan. 21, 2020, 2:23 PM CST
By Julio Ricardo Varela, co-host of "In The Thick" and founder of LatinoRebels.com
Donald Trump has actually kept the main promise of his 2016 campaign, because Mexico is paying for a "border wall." The only thing is that it’s not a physical wall and it’s not on the southwest border: It’s a wall of Mexican National Guard members on the border between Mexico and Guatemala, working to keep Trump's promises to the American people in the name of Mexican national security... and capitulation to their northern neighbor.
That wall was put to the test
after thousands of Honduran migrants arrived at a bridge connecting southern Mexico and Guatemala on Saturday,
clashing with Mexico's National Guard after Mexican authorities shut down the bridge and attempted to stop the migrants from making unauthorized entry elsewhere in the border region by promising those that registered for asylum in Mexico that they could obtain jobs there.
“I prefer love and peace,” Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador
said in 2019, in response to Trump's then-threats to close the U.S.-Mexico border unless Mexico acted aggressively on immigration enforcement. That “peace and love” turns out to look a lot like appeasing Trump, rather than providing assistance to people fleeing systemic poverty and violence from the neighbors to the south.
Mexico, of course, already has a
history of cooperating with the United States on immigration enforcement, but it appears they have doubled down on it with Trump. It cannot be a coincidence that we are seeing images of Mexicans confronting migrants on its southern border only a week after
the Congress passed the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement to replace NAFTA. It seems that, when trade is involved, López Obrabor will choose the economy first — even though he won the presidency two years ago on a leftist, populist and essentially anti-Trump platform.
But López Obrador is not the only one allowing Trump to do whatever he wants to do in the region. The Trump "wall" of agreements to enforce American immigration policy for us extends well into Central America, and includes
new third party agreements to
upend the process for migrants to receive asylum in America that we have made with Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador — where political leaders desperate for American aid are more than willing to criticize the American president one minute and enforce his policies the next.
Trump's ability to get others to do his dirty work speaks to how the U.S. can still play the bully around its own backyard.
And while the virtual wall expands south, the real one is being constructed, at least in small sections, in the American southwest. From the looks of how acquiescent Central American leaders have been to Trump's demands, however, the physical wall might not actually be needed.
Never mind that those who flee places like Central America are doing it because decades of U.S. foreign policy has created the unstable, violent and poverty-stricken environment that makes a dangerous trek of thousands of miles, much of it on foot, to an uncertain end seem preferable to remaining at home. In El Salvador alone,
more than 75,000 people died in a years-long civil war fomented by the United States in the name of stopping communism; our actions in much of Central America during the Cold War followed the same pattern. It is a stain on American history, and we as a country have never come to terms with the long-term damage we inflicted on the region.
LatinoIn Mexico, López Obrador's 'teflon' presidency takes a hit in the polls, but survives
Mexico is not just being asked to play the role of Trump's virtual wall against Central American migrants; Mexican migrants are now falling victim to the other walls Trump has been building. Yes, even as Mexico continues its role as Trump’s enforcer, the U.S.
has begun using its agreement with Guatemala to send Mexican asylum-seekers detained at the U.S. border to that third country.
So what are we left with? For all the crowing by liberals that Trump has not built his wall and Mexico has not paid for it, he's proven that he doesn't have to. The president has, in the end, been able to push an immigration policy that criminalizes the people who need the most help from Americans. The irony is that, much like with his vaunted career as a supposed real estate magnate, Trump didn’t need to build very much to accomplish his stated goals. His ability to get others to do his dirty work — even those leaders who said they wouldn't help at all — speaks to how the U.S. can still play the bully around its own backyard with no consequences.
At least, there have to date been no no short-term consequences for Trump. But that could always change — if Americans really cared, and if they are ready to vote him out in November.
we remember this retard yeah? the one Trump told to "SIT DOWN!"
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/07/o...-migrants.html
Trump Got His Wish. Mexico Is Now the Wall.
The American immigration system needs a complete makeover, but López Obrador’s government shouldn’t act as an extension of the Border Patrol.
By Jorge Ramos
Mr. Ramos is a contributing opinion writer and an anchor for the Univision network.
Security forces holding riot shields blocking a caravan of mostly Central American migrants (not pictured), near Frontera Hidalgo, Chiapas, Mexico, in January.Credit...Andres Martinez Casares/Reuters
Mexico is now the wall. President Trump got his wish.
The
heart-wrenching images documenting a recent confrontation in the state of Chiapas, near the border with Guatemala, are evidence of this. Dozens of Mexican National Guard troops equipped with helmets, batons and transparent shields coalesced on the highway connecting the Mexican cities of Ciudad Hidalgo and Tapachula to stop a caravan of migrants heading to the United States from Central America.
The guardsmen used pepper spray on the caravan, which as of mid-January included about 4,000 people, many of them women and children. In the end, hundreds were detained, sent back to Guatemala or deported to Honduras.
A spokeswoman for the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights condemned the actions of the National Guard, saying that the use of force to stop and disperse immigrants should be avoided.
Mexico has effectively turned into an extension of Mr. Trump’s immigration police beyond American territory. And this is the case on multiple fronts: On the southern border with Guatemala, they prevent Central American migrants from coming into Mexico; on the northern one, they block those seeking entry to the United States from leaving. The decision of Mexico’s President Andrés Manuel López Obrador, also known as AMLO, to follow this approach is misguided. He should let migrants continue their journey north.
Under the
Migrant Protection Protocols program, which the Trump administration introduced in January 2019, asylum seekers who attempt to enter the United States at the U.S.-Mexico border may be required to stay in Mexico while the authorities make a decision regarding their case. As of November 2019, over 56,000 people had been sent back to Mexico to wait for the outcome of their applications,
according to Human Rights Watch.
Continue reading the main story
This is a radical change in immigration policy for the United States. In the past, Central American asylum seekers were allowed to remain on American soil while waiting for their cases to be processed.
Central American immigration has always been a source of frustration for the United States. But the most powerful country in the world holds a certain degree of responsibility for what goes on in its hemisphere, and it is perfectly capable of accepting the most vulnerable people on the continent. It has done it before, and can still do it.
So when did the United States’ problem become Mexico’s problem? Everything changed because of Donald Trump. By mid-2019, a number of Central American caravans were traveling across Mexico. The president, comparing them to an invasion, warned Mexico that they should do something to stop them, and that he would
slap tariffs on all Mexican imports if it didn’t.
“Their right to make a living, to not be abused, to be protected, helped, and supported should be safeguarded,” Mr. López Obrador,
then president-elect, said in October 2018 of the Central American migrants heading north. Unfortunately, he has since backtracked, pulling back on his promises to the migrants.
When a journalist asked him during one of his daily news conferences about the harassment and intimidation of Central American migrants in southern Mexico,
AMLO refused to take the victims’ side. And Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II, acting deputy secretary of Homeland Security, said that the Trump administration had seen more cooperation from Mexico “
than anyone thought was possible.”
Mr. Cuccinelli is right. Over a year ago, few would have thought that a leftist president like AMLO (author of a critical book titled “Oye, Trump” and
defender of Central Americans crossing Mexico) would suddenly become Mr. Trump’s main ally in immigration matters.
Mr. López Obrador has said that he favors a “peace and love” policy toward the United States and will avoid confrontation with Mr. Trump. There’s nothing wrong with wanting a good relationship with a powerful neighbor who also happens to be your main trade partner. But we should also remember that Mexico has been exporting immigrants to the United States for decades. Millions of us live on American soil.
That’s why I am surprised by the indifference shown by so many Mexicans over the abuses of the National Guard and the vicious attacks on social media aimed at Central Americans. Those xenophobic comments remind me of those I have been hearing for decades here in the United States, and of the appalling mistreatment of Mexican immigrants in recent years. Such abuses should not be forgotten or used to justify a similar treatment of migrants in Mexico.
Northward migration is hardly a new phenomenon. For decades it has provided the United States with a much-needed labor force, and the migrants and refugees who put everything on the line to make the journey with an opportunity to improve their lives. I am fully aware that the American immigration system is far from perfect. It is in dire need of a complete makeover. But Mexico shouldn’t be an extension of the Border Patrol. That makes things worse for everybody.
What should Mexico be doing with migrants from Central America? Just let them go through and protect them as they do so, instead of repressing them. They are fleeing extreme poverty and gang violence. Their only hope is to get to the United States. The Trump administration, not the López Obrador administration, should be receiving them and deciding whether they should be granted political asylum.
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Says the guy from Austin"!! LOL!!
"The Economist, citing data from an American Political Science Review study, posted a chart earlier this week mapping the political persuasions of large American cities. The study considered policy preferences of populations larger than 250,000 people, resulting in a graph that shows a decidely leftward tilt for the nation’s biggest municipalities. Of the cities represented on the chart, Austin lands in the 14th most liberal spot, behind names like New York, Chicago and Boston. (The cities furthest to the left? San Francisco, Washington, D.C., and Seattle.)"
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did you hear about those two dead criminals in Kenosha? the felon and the registered sex offender?
forget me .. when ya gonna apologize to Turd Ferguson ATX?
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Why We’ve Decided to Tell You the Criminal Records of the Men Shot in Kenosha
https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/20...osha-shooting/
We’ve decided to tell you the criminal histories of the three men who were shot in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Here’s why.
We think the public is entitled to know all of the context to properly understand what unfolded that night. The Kenosha County District Attorney has charged Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, with first-degree intentional homicide in the shooting death of Anthony M. Huber; with first-degree reckless homicide in the shooting death of Joseph D. Rosenbaum; and with attempted first-degree intentional homicide for wounding Gaige Grosskreutz. Read the criminal complaint here. Rittenhouse’s attorney says he acted in self defense when attacked by what the lawyer called a vicious mob. You can read the lawyer’s statement here.
(Note: See some of our other exclusives here, including video of arson suspects starting a Kenosha business on fire, and an eyewitness who says he saw a man with a walkie talkie directing carloads of people right before the arson fires broke out. We also found shell casings Kenosha police missed at the first Rittenhouse shooting scene.)
Joseph Rosenbaum, Anthony Huber & Gaige Grosskreutz Criminal Records Explored
The media have largely sanitized the criminal histories of these three men. Rosenbaum was a registered sex offender who was out on bond for a domestic abuse battery accusation and was caught on video acting aggressively earlier that night. Huber was a felon convicted in a strangulation case who was recently accused of domestic abuse. Grosskreutz was convicted of a crime for use of a firearm while intoxicated and was armed with a handgun when shot. You can read their criminal records in full later in this article.
Here’s a video that shows Rosenbaum acting aggressively shortly before the shooting. He’s in the red shirt.
To be clear, we don’t think the criminal history of everyone shot and killed is relevant in crime stories. We also don’t believe that anyone deserves to be shot because they have a criminal history, and that’s true of these three men. We also acknowledge that human beings are complex, and the men surely had good aspects to their personalities. What makes their criminal histories relevant for the public to at least consider: The three men who were shot had placed themselves in the midst of a scene of violent unrest that, for days, included lawless anarchy (there were arson fires in the area that night too), and the suspect is on video saying earlier that he was there to prevent damage to people and property. All three men were confronting Rittenhouse when shot and two were trying to grab his gun; in the first case, Rittenhouse was running away, and in the second situation, he tried to but fell. That’s from the criminal complaint.
Rosenbaum was also caught on video using a racial slur earlier that night. “Shoot me (n word),” he says in the video.
Multiple eyewitnesses told Wisconsin Right Now at the scene that they believe Rittenhouse was arguing with men who were starting an arson fire before the shootings because he was upset about the fire. Video does show a dumpster fire.
The witnesses believed this ignited the argument between Rittenhouse and the first victim. The complaint does not explain what authorities believe instigated that first argument. It’s certainly consistent with Rittenhouse’s behavior earlier in the night, though, as he was seen cleaning up graffiti, protecting a used car lot (used car lots had already been targets of serious vandalism and arson), and walking around with a medic bag.
“A person with the red shirt was arguing,” Delreno Jackson, one of those witnesses, said in an interview at the scene. Rosenbaum was wearing a red shirt that night. Jackson said that a garbage can was thrown after the shooter was upset that Black Lives Matter protesters were lighting a fire. We observed the garbage can lying toppled over in the street inside the crime scene tape. Video does mention a man in a red shirt being in a confrontation with Rittenhouse in the earlier shooting.
The criminal complaint alleges that Rosenbaum was trailing Rittenhouse, threw a plastic bag at him, initially tried to engage him, advanced toward him, and was trying to grab Rittenhouse’s gun when he was shot. It says that Rittenhouse, 17, was trying to evade Rosenbaum. The New York Times says a gunshot fired by an unknown person was heard right before Rittenhouse fired. Others were also chasing Rittenhouse at the time, video shows.
Some believe Rittenhouse has a self-defense argument, which would make the perceived or real dangerousness of men confronting or trailing him more arguably relevant.
The complaint says Huber was also trying to grab Rittenhouse’s gun and his skateboard made physical contact with Rittenhouse right before Rittenhouse shot him. Rittenhouse fell after being chased down the street, and photos and videos show him being struck with the skateboard as multiple people come toward him.
Huber’s loved ones have called him a hero, a narrative widely circulating online. Was he? Could the truth be complicated? Is it at least possible that Huber thought he was confronting an active shooter (which would certainly be a heroic act) because he didn’t see what happened in the earlier shooting with Rosenbaum, but Rittenhouse thought he was being attacked, first by Rosenbaum and then by Huber and others? Huber’s shooting occurred seconds after another unidentified man jumped at and over Rittenhouse, who fired at him, but missed, the complaint says. “Get his ass,” someone shouted around this time.
Grosskreutz was moving toward Rittenhouse when shot and holding a handgun, the complaint says.
There are certainly questions about why a 17 year old had also injected himself, without parental supervision, into a scene of criminal unrest, carrying a gun he wasn’t old enough to lawfully display. We would print Rittenhouse’s criminal history too, but the only thing that comes up for him in Wisconsin courts is two traffic tickets (and the extradition case in Illinois.) People are spreading the criminal record of another Kyle Rittenhouse around the Internet, but that man is much older and isn’t him.
For all of these reasons, we have decided not to censor the men’s criminal histories. You can decide how relevant you think they are, if at all:
Joseph Don Rosenbaum
Joseph Rosenbaums Facebook profile picture. Joseph Don Rosenbaum lived in Kenosha. He had an open case for misdemeanor bail jumping that was filed on July 30, 2020.
The conditions of bond read: “Not to Possess or Consume Alcohol. *Not To Possess or Consume Controlled Substances w/o a Prescription. No contact including the residence, electronic or 3rd party with: Kariann S, Park Ridge Inn.”
Rosenbaum also had open misdemeanor cases for battery (domestic abuse) and disorderly conduct (domestic abuse).
Joseph D. Rosenbaum inmate photo from Arizona News articles say Joseph “Jojo” Rosenbaum was the father of a 2 year old girl. He was 36-years-old. No Joseph Rosenbaum is found on the Wisconsin sex offender registry right now, but he may have been removed because he’s deceased. Screenshots and city databases show that he was on that registry for a sexual contact with a minor case out of Arizona.
We asked Wisconsin Department of Corrections if they had a Joseph Rosenbaum on the registry before and they said yes and they were notified he’s now deceased. See their response to us here:
The conviction date was 2002. It gives his nickname as JoJo.
We contacted the Arizona Department of Corrections, and they confirmed that the middle name and date of birth for the Arizona offender is the same as those of the Joseph Rosenbaum with the Kenosha address in Wisconsin court records. And the Facebook page of the Joseph Rosenbaum who was shot by Rittenhouse indicates he’s engaged to Kariann, confirming the CCAP entries. The Wisconsin and Arizona initial offense dates are also the same.
 Wisconsin court record The Arizona inmate page for Rosenbaum through the Department of Corrections there shows multiple violations for things like assaulting staff, throwing substances, assault by weapon, disobeying orders, and so on.
 Arisona prison history for Joseph D. Rosenbaum. His Facebook page confirms ties to Arizona and says he’s from Waco, Texas.
The complaint says that Rosenbaum did “initially try to engage the defendant. McGinnis (an eyewitness) stated that as the defendant was walking Rosenbaum was trying to get closer to the defendant. When Rosenbaum advanced, the defendant did a ‘juke’ move and started running,” according to the complaint. “McGinnis said that the unarmed guy (Rosenbaum) was trying to get the defendant’s gun. McGinnis demonstrated by extending both of his hands in a quick grabbing motion and did that as a visual on how Rosenbaum tried to reach for the defendant’s gun…McGinnis said that he definitely made a motion that he was trying to grab the barrel of the gun. McGinnis stated that the defendant pulled it away and then raised it.”
Gaige Paul Grosskreutz
Gaige Paul Grosskreutz has a forfeiture case for not showing obedience to officers, as well as one for loud noises.
He was convicted of a criminal misdemeanor in 2016 for going armed with a firearm while intoxicated. He gave a West Allis address.
People on social media are alleging that Grosskreutz is a Wisconsin felon. However, he has no felony convictions in the Wisconsin court system. This old archived web page alleges he was arrested on burglary charges, but nothing comes up in the court website for that case
Online records show he’s affiliated with The People’s Revolution, the Milwaukee-area protest group that has been protesting at Mayfair Mall and elsewhere. The man accused of attacking and shooting at Wauwatosa Police Officer Joseph Mensah was also affiliated with that group.
Anthony M. Huber
 Anthony Huber Facebook picture Huber had a disorderly conduct conviction from 2018 as a domestic abuse repeater, which is a misdemeanor. He gave a Kenosha address. Here are the charges in that case.
940.19(1) Battery Misd. A Dismissed on Prosecutor’s Motion
Modifier: 939.62(1)(a) Repeater
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
2 947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.62(1)(a) Repeater
He also had a forfeiture case for possessing drug paraphernalia.
 Huber mugshot in past case He also had a case from 2012 with these charges:
1 941.30(2) 2nd-Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety Felony G Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 939.63(1)(c) Use of a Dangerous Weapon
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
2 940.235(1) Strangulation and Suffocation Felony H Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
3 940.30 False Imprisonment Felony H Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.63(1)(b) Use of a Dangerous Weapon
4 940.19(1) Battery Misd. A Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.63(1)(a) Use of a Dangerous Weapon
5 947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.63(1)(a) Use of a Dangerous Weapon
6 947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
This is Huber’s incarceration history from the Wisconsin Department of Corrections.
There are no contact orders in those cases and he was ordered not to possess weapons.
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