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		|  11-08-2020, 07:56 AM | #31 |  
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					Originally Posted by elghund  And, Willie.....I am sure that you know about this, but in case, a bit of research on “Deepfake” technology will tell you why you should rarely believe any snippet of a video anywhere.
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We're talking about a guy who made a name for himself on here by going to bat for James O'Keefe and Project Veritas.  So....
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		|  11-08-2020, 08:16 AM | #32 |  
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					Originally Posted by elghund  And, Willie.....I am sure that you know about this, but in case, a bit of research on “Deepfake” technology will tell you why you should rarely believe any snippet of a video anywhere.
 Personally, I don’t watch videos on the internet. Keeps my sanity level intact.
 
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Yes, I've seen some of the examples of the deep fake videos. Scary how convincing they are. Most of the deep fakes I've seen focus on one person. I haven't seen any of a group, but I imagine it's possible.  
I don't believe that to be the case for the linked videos. I have followed that channel for awhile. Just two guys who go out and do interviews mostly. I met the shorter guy once on a layover at ATL airport . I recognized him from the videos. He seemed pretty cool and low key in the 20 minutes or so we talked. He didn't come off as extreme right or a conspiracy guy. They started the YouTube channel for fun and to try to have open dialog with the left wing protestors and silly shit like "free hugs from a Trump supporter" It's mostly entertainment, but they have recorded some violent encounters between left and right protestors. I can see how they might be considered provocateurs for trying to engage in a dialog with Leftists. I don't think they're professional enough to pull off a deep fake even if they wanted to. 
On a side note, I also met Neal Schon from Journey on a layover once. Very approachable, we talked guitars mostly, seemed like a nice guy.
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		|  11-08-2020, 08:40 AM | #33 |  
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					Originally Posted by Willie Wanker  Yes, I've seen some of the examples of the deep fake videos. Scary how convincing they are. Most of the deep fakes I've seen focus on one person. I haven't seen any of a group, but I imagine it's possible. I don't believe that to be the case for the linked videos. I have followed that channel for awhile. Just two guys who go out and do interviews mostly. I met the shorter guy once on a layover at ATL airport . I recognized him from the videos. He seemed pretty cool and low key in the 20 minutes or so we talked. He's didn't come off as extreme right or a conspiracy guy. They started the YouTube channel for fun and to try to have open dialog with the left wing protestors and silly shit like "free hugs from a Trump supporter" It's mostly entertainment, but they have recorded some violent encounters between left and right protestors. I can see how they might be considered provocateurs for trying to engage in a dialog with Leftists. I don't think they're professional enough to pull off a deep fake even if they wanted to.
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With the advent of the technology, and knowing that our military is involved in uncovering the most damaging videos that surface, I am skeptical of all video clips. I do not believe any of them are done with the objective of being impartial, or furthering the cause of unification.
 
This site sure has been a lesson in what we as a country face going forward, because if treating politics like the last 10 years is not corrected, we will not have a country for long.
 
We are not enemies, we are countrymen. And treating politics like it’s a soccer game in a third world country is not what any of us should want.
 
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		|  11-08-2020, 08:49 AM | #34 |  
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					Originally Posted by Doove  We're talking about a guy who made a name for himself on here by going to bat for James O'Keefe and Project Veritas.  So.... |  
A name for myself, flattering. You're made a far bigger name yourself buying into the Russian Collision hoax four years without evidence. At least PV has videos.
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		|  11-08-2020, 09:25 AM | #35 |  
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					Originally Posted by elghund  With the advent of the technology, and knowing that our military is involved in uncovering the most damaging videos that surface, I am skeptical of all video clips. I do not believe any of them are done with the objective of being impartial, or furthering the cause of unification.
 This site sure has been a lesson in what we as a country face going forward, because if treating politics like the last 10 years is not corrected, we will not have a country for long.
 
 We are not enemies, we are countrymen. And treating politics like it’s a soccer game in a third world country is not what any of us should want.
 
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I agree with much of this. I believe that most of us are playing caricatures on the internet, especially here. We judge, and are judged solely by our ideologies and unfiltered text discussions. There's no humanity in it. No facial cues to determine if the other side is laughing, or is offended. I have friends and relatives who are liberals, and some far left. We simply don't interact that way face to face. No BS, these are people I love and care about. I've said it before, if I ever met anyone here that I agree, or disagree with, I would buy them a beer, and avoid the subject of politics. I would be surprised if anyone else here wouldn't do the same. That's been my experience anyway.  
On here, everyone has their guard up, We don't really know each other.
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		|  11-08-2020, 12:16 PM | #36 |  
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					Originally Posted by elghund  Personally, I don’t watch videos on the internet. Keeps my sanity level intact.
 
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Then what is the straight jacket for?
  
fuckin elg....
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		|  11-08-2020, 12:23 PM | #37 |  
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					Originally Posted by elghund  And, Willie.....I am sure that you know about this, but in case, a bit of research on “Deepfake” technology will tell you why you should rarely believe any snippet of a video anywhere.
 Personally, I don’t watch videos on the internet. Keeps my sanity level intact.
 
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					Originally Posted by Paulie Rockstar  Then what is the straight jacket for?
 fuckin elg....
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use ta ????
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		|  11-08-2020, 01:32 PM | #38 |  
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					Originally Posted by Paulie Rockstar  Then what is the straight jacket for?
 fuckin elg....
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					Originally Posted by offshoredrilling  use ta ???? |  
Stylish.....and for my fetish.........
 
elg......
 
.....fuckin’ Paulie! Lol!
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		|  11-08-2020, 01:48 PM | #39 |  
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					Originally Posted by Willie Wanker  You're made a far bigger name yourself buying into the Russian Collision hoax... |  
You must be new here.
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		|  11-08-2020, 02:55 PM | #40 |  
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					Originally Posted by Doove  You must be new here. |  
Lol. I forgot about those other threads. It took me a minute to figure it out. Hopefully that's over.
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		|  11-08-2020, 05:29 PM | #41 |  
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			But...but....whut happened to the OP?
 Last post by him wuz on 11/04.  Oh oh... I hope he didn't take this too hard.  Or that the 'rona didn't get him....
 
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		|  11-08-2020, 07:20 PM | #44 |  
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Bidens  looks so  cute
 
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