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Old 07-01-2021, 10:19 PM   #1
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Default The Big Lie

No, not that one, there are so many to choose from these days but I still believe the biggest lie of all ( so far ) is the Trump/ Russian conspiracy lie.

But now we have another Big Lie even though this one was proven months ago when Joe Biden said he knew nothing about his son Hunter's "business deals". We found out, with no help of the MSM and Big Tech., that Joe Biden not only knew about Hunter's deals, we know from first hand testimony from Tony Bobulinski, that Joe Biden was called to meet Mr. Bobulinski so that Joe could give final approval to bring Bobulinski on board as CEO in a deal Hunter was making with the Chinese.

Now, direct from Hunter's laptop, we have pictures of Joe and Hunter 'meeting with Carlos Slim, one of the richest men in the world, to close a deal, that Hunter suggests is due him after he made such an effort to introduce the Mexican business men to "people in the White House" including his father Joe and there are pictures that prove the meting took place.

https://nypost.com/2021/07/01/hunter...h-carlos-slim/


Hunter Biden used Joe’s VP perks to pursue deal with Carlos Slim

Hunter Biden used the perks of the vice presidency — parties, meetings with Joe Biden and flights on Air Force Two — to pursue business deals with Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim while his father was in office, records show.


Hunter’s involvement with Slim, at one time the world’s richest man, commenced soon after a White House state dinner the magnate attended in May 2010, along with Joe Biden and his wife, Jill, to honor Mexican President Felipe Calderon.


The diary on Hunter’s abandoned laptop shows he and Slim were both guests at a State Department luncheon during Calderon’s visit, which was hosted by his father and then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Spanish tenor Placido Domingo also reportedly attended.


The charmed path that always opens for Hunter when his father meets a foreign leader or oligarch led him to Mexico on a VIP trip the following year. Hunter’s diary in May 2011 shows a “tentative tour hosted by Carlos Slim” of the tycoon’s private “Soumaya Museum,” in Mexico City, which Slim founded and named after his late wife, Soumaya Domit. Containing priceless sculptures from pre-Spanish Mesoamerica, it is the most visited museum in the country. There could be no greater honor offered to Hunter than a private tour with the billionaire founder.


Hunter also had breakfast with Slim’s friend, Mexican billionaire Carlos Bremer, at his magnificent villa in the shadow of the Sierra Madre Oriental mountain range in Monterrey. Bremer, former director of the country’s stock exchange, had donated millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation and sat on the foundation’s board.


Hunter subsequently would hold in-person and video conference meetings with Slim’s sons, Carlos Jr. and Tony Slim, between 2011 and 2015, although the laptop does not indicate what came of the encounters.
Hunter would visit Mexico again in March 2012, April 2013, September 2014 and February 2015. His final recorded flight to Mexico City was with his father aboard Air Force Two in February 2016. Hunter’s business partner Jeff Cooper, who ran one of the largest asbestos litigation firms in the country, Illinois-based SimmonsCooper, was on the flight. Hunter owned 3 percent of Cooper’s venture capital firm Eudora Global, according to emails.


Cooper also appears in a Nov. 19, 2015, photograph with Joe, Hunter, Carlos Slim, another Mexican billionaire, Miguel Alemán Velasco, and his son Miguel Aleman Magnani, founder of budget airline Interjet, at the vice president’s residence in Washington, DC.


Earlier that year, Hunter and wife Kathleen had stayed at Magnani’s Acapulco mansion.


This was also around the time that Carlos Slim became the largest shareholder in The New York Times.


Hunter’s uncle Jim Biden, Joe’s younger brother, was keen on leveraging the Slim connection for profit, emails on the laptop show.
Jim emailed Hunter on May 7, 2015, about a deal that would involve Slim and a Mexican state-owned oil and gas firm, Petroleos Mexicanos (Pemex). “Have a very real deal with Pemex (Carlos Slim) need financing literally for a few days to a week,” he wrote.


“Have the seller (refinery /slims) and buyer major being delivered from pipeline in (h/ USA) Nothing is simple but this comes very close. As always the devil is in the detail! Any interest on the long skirts part?”
Uncle Jim still was hopeful of a Slim windfall in 2017 when he sent Hunter a “short list of foreign friends for next phase.” The list included Slim, whom Jim described as “very friendly” and “arguably the richest man in the world.”


Hunter and Cooper were hoping for Slim family money for Cooper’s online gaming company Ocho Gaming and digital wallet firm ePlata, in which Hunter had a 5.25 percent stake through his firm Owasco.
“Just wondering who is the best first major partner outside [the Aleman family’s airline] Interjet. Obviously [the] Slims provide that if we could actually sell them on the idea and not have them just take it and create their own,” Hunter emailed Cooper in February 2015. It was Gabriel Zinny from Democratic lobbying firm Blue Star Strategies who first suggested selling Cooper’s gaming interests to Carlos Slim, whose firm Telmex was entering the online gaming business.


“Below is an article from today’s press about Slim getting into the business in Mexico,” Zinny wrote to Cooper in April 2012, forwarding a Reuters piece headlined “Tycoon Slim taps online gaming market in Mexico.”


“It sounds like a potential good exit strategy for your investment.”


Zinny also was acting for another of Hunter’s wealthy Latin American associates, Manuel Estrella, owner of construction consortium Grupo Estrella and listed by Forbes as one of the top 20 richest entrepreneurs in the Dominican Republic.


In an email in December 2012, Hunter introduced Estrella to Cooper as “a good friend of mine” and “the perfect partner as you explore bringing online gaming to the Dominican Republic.”
Two years later, Hunter would arrange for Estrella to meet Joe Biden. “Hunter I just met your father!” Estrella emailed Hunter on June 19, 2014. “So exciting.”
Zinny followed up with his own email to Hunter: “Thank you so much Boss! Just talked to Manuel [Estrella] who was really excited. You are too generous with your latinos fans!!”
Estrella once had expressed interest in investing in a “new hotel” in Haiti with Hunter’s company Rosemont Seneca and the “Clinton-Bush Haiti Fund.”
“He would like to invest in this new hotel, giving Rosemont Seneca an equity participation and bringing the Fund as a potential investor,” Zinny wrote Hunter on Oct. 28, 2010. The deal doesn’t appear to have occurred and communications with Estrella cease in August 2015.


But in 2018, Hunter still was optimistic about making money from his Slim connections. Despite Joe Biden claiming he’s never discussed his son’s business with him, there’s a text message from July 24, 2018, on the laptop:


“Spoke to my dad about ‘Slim ask,’ ” Hunter wrote Cooper after a visit from his father in Los Angeles. “Oh that sounds SO F’ING GOOD” replied Cooper.
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Damn it long post. I don't care about conspiracy just who going to get rid of most cops.
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Old 07-02-2021, 06:05 AM   #3
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So what exactly are you accusing Joe of doing. Looks like your own post fails to show that Joe did anything. Hunter got rich off his dads name and position. To that I say, so what. So I ask again what did Joe do that’s got you so fired up.
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So what exactly are you accusing Joe of doing. Looks like your own post fails to show that Joe did anything. Hunter got rich off his dads name and position. To that I say, so what. So I ask again what did Joe do that’s got you so fired up.
Joey Bribes said several times he never talked to Hunter about his business dealings. Obviously, he did. DUH!!!
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Old 07-02-2021, 07:28 AM   #5
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Long list but the covid 19 gotto be close to the top
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Old 07-02-2021, 08:43 AM   #6
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Joey Bribes said several times he never talked to Hunter about his business dealings. Obviously, he did. DUH!!!
So, what are you accusing him of doing aside from lying about advising his son. I take meeting all the time for lots of people and I wouldn’t exactly call any of it advising or consulting.

So I ask. What are you implying that he did.
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Old 07-02-2021, 09:17 AM   #7
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So nice to once again have a president who doesn't lie and make stuff up over 80% of time he is in front of a camera.
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Old 07-02-2021, 09:29 AM   #8
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So 'nice' to have a POTUS who is manipulated and controlled by a radical marxist agenda, and sadly affected by pre- senile dementia drooling in front of the camera.


Please remember - LM - Trump is no longer POTUS.

and harry is no longer a Royal.
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Old 07-02-2021, 09:47 AM   #9
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Ivanka and Jared recently just paid $ 32 million for a land lot in Miami.
Kids, kids, kids


It doesn't matter, though, as this is not an "aboutism" response


Shame on Hunter and Joe for getting that money
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Old 07-02-2021, 10:05 AM   #10
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VM - do you have any evidence to prove that the Jared/Ivanka money paid for their property was corruptly/illegally obtained?
given the current political climate in NY - with trump organization officials indicted - One can be sure the DPST SDNY is examining every detail for any indictable offense - illegal or not.





While they ignore the POTUS/Hunter criminal family enterpr8se efforts to line their pockets.



Thank you for your criticism of the Fiden criminal /graft corporation.
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Welcome back oeb.

Yes, Joey Bribes and Hunter are walking around free despite all of the evidence of corruption.

Yet, A NY DA ran on the platform that she was going to put the President Trump in jail. Now she's criminally prosecuting an act that most people would consider an IRS monetary fine.
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^^ the NY DA is carpit bombing anyone that's near T , Can we say Abuse of power much ,,,and ALL CFOs don't report 100% for tax s really that's the best they got
Just MAYBE they should look into Embarrassment and chiefs family the same way Hum
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Welcome back oeb.

Yes, Joey Bribes and Hunter are walking around free despite all of the evidence of corruption.

Yet, A NY DA ran on the platform that she was going to put the President Trump in jail. Now she's criminally prosecuting an act that most people would consider an IRS monetary fine.
People go to jail for tax evasion all the time. And they should.

Evidence of corruption. Lol. There is none.
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Steve Bannon is walking around free....why ?....because he got a pardon from the Don himself.


Wasn't he the White House chief strategist when the Trumpeter was living there ?
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The check s in the mail, I am not married . . . .I've had a vasectomy . . . .
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