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Old 08-11-2021, 11:04 AM   #46
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Honestly this is all I wanted. I need more than "Athletes are woke, ratings are down = ratings are down because athletes are woke." Still, I'd rather go to the source. I tracked down the poll in question (which cites their methodology as well):
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-ins...oll_US_072821/

Here is where is interpretation comes into play. Wayne from the article before just said his opinion with no evidence. Mr. Not Tyler Durden from zero hedge cited an article which pointed to this poll that politics were the primary reason. Now when I look at the data, yes it says that a third blames politics (and the examples given show that at least some of those are Republicans turned off by what you would call woke athletes). What else it shows is that nearly another third blames the pandemic and the rest have a variety of other reasons. Now if you're writing your article for a conservative base, you'll point to the ones who say politics to prove your point. But that doesn't change the fact that the other two thirds of the people who lost interest had other reasons.
Well if you looked, you would have also noticed that 49% fewer people watched the Tokyo Olympics. The Monmouth University polling only mentioned that 33% less American viewers were interested in the games. So Monmouth vastly underreported the lack of interest which calls into question their overall results. I think it is pretty common knowledge that many conservatives do not participate in polls and as a result, that (and biased pollsters) is why many polls miss the mark because they skew too far left. So lets just surmise that the 16% of people Monmouth missed to get to 49% mainly did not watch the Olympics because of the woke bullshit. That pushes Monmouth's results to well over half of people who did not watch blaming politics for their lack of interest.

I really don't buy the whole blaming it on the pandemic BS because for all those too scared to get out of their house without wearing 5 masks - what else do they have to do but watch TV. But even if we said Monmouth was accurate on their one third figure (and I have already shown why it is not) - don't you agree that is a huge issue. No business can lose a third of their customers without feeling financial pain
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Old 08-11-2021, 11:39 AM   #47
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Well if you looked, you would have also noticed that 49% fewer people watched the Tokyo Olympics. The Monmouth University polling only mentioned that 33% less American viewers were interested in the games...
Not exactly true. One, interest and viewership are two different things, which I made clear earlier in explaining how my interest has remained the same though my viewership has significantly decreased. You're comparing apples and oranges, both may be fruit but they don't taste the same. Two, you can talk about polls all you want, but you have to take them for what they were (what's common knowledge doesn't mean much, when common people misinterpret the information they are given). The thing that makes a polling institute like Monmouth respectable is that like any academic discipline, they lay out their methodology and margin for error. If you want to attack that, by all means, but remember this is also the source that provided the evidence for the other articles. If you're calling the pandemic part BS, what stops me from calling the politics part BS? Nothing. All I'm saying is here is the data. How you feel doesn't change that.

And yes, the one third percentage is significant, but my point from the beginning was that the articles isolated that number to make their point without acknowledging that there were many other factors as well. Also to be clear, it's not a straight third. It's a third of the third that lost interest which would be a ninth, which is still significant.
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Old 08-11-2021, 12:09 PM   #48
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I did not watch one second of coverage.Its nothing but raw sewage between the Olympic
Organization. The networks and sponsors. The woke crowd. I have better things to do.

While I salute the athletes and all the hard work and commitment to competing.

I feel it has passed its time as entertainment and a lot agree looking at the ratings.
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Old 08-11-2021, 12:39 PM   #49
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I did not watch one second of coverage.Its nothing but raw sewage between the Olympic
Organization. The networks and sponsors. The woke crowd. I have better things to do.

While I salute the athletes and all the hard work and commitment to competing.

I feel it has passed its time as entertainment and a lot agree looking at the ratings.
Yeah, it’s lost it’s luster since I was a kid. It was a big deal back in the day. They’ve introduced so many faux events. Not saying the people competing in them aren’t skillful, but nobody I knew growing up even heard of them. Like skateboarding for example. I guess I would call them X games. I believe they originated there. Targeting the younger demographic. It’s all about the cash. Always is. Not that it’s a bad thing.
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Old 08-11-2021, 02:15 PM   #50
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Subway franchisees want to drop Megan Rapinoe’s new ad amid Olympic controversy

GO WOKE GO BROKE

https://www.yahoo.com/news/subway-fr...204600342.html
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Old 08-11-2021, 05:08 PM   #51
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Subway franchisees want to drop Megan Rapinoe’s new ad amid Olympic controversy

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/subway-fr...204600342.html
The franchise owners demanded it.
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Old 08-11-2021, 08:26 PM   #52
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You guys must be a blast to hang with. Lol
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Old 08-11-2021, 08:31 PM   #53
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You guys must be a blast to hang with. Lol
Actually we are. Maybe should stop by for drinks sometime. We’re dying to meet you.
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Old 08-11-2021, 09:26 PM   #54
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Actually we are. Maybe should stop by for drinks sometime. We’re dying to meet you.
As pleasurable as that sounds I’d have to pass. You’re boring dude. Other then politics, what do you discuss? Football and olympics are out of the question, and actually everything seems to be political now if you let it….which you definitely do. And you were providing personal information of both a provider and a hobbiest on this site. I have no intention of meeting you.
Carry on.
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Geez, all my posts in this thread were about the Olympics and Football.

All the best
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Old 08-11-2021, 10:38 PM   #56
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The franchise owners demanded it.
As well they should have. The stupid decision by corporate was costing every franchise owner money by driving away potential customers
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Old 08-11-2021, 10:42 PM   #57
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As pleasurable as that sounds I’d have to pass. You’re boring dude. Other then politics, what do you discuss? Football and olympics are out of the question, and actually everything seems to be political now if you let it….which you definitely do.
LOL, I think Bam is anything but boring. But whatever dude.

As for discussion topics - have you noticed the state of the hobby in Pittsburgh sucks as bad as senile Biden? Very little if anything to discuss about the hobby these days. So might as well talk about other things of interest and perhaps educate some people too
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I've had more than a few drinks with Bam over the years and hopefully will have a few more some day soon.
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I've had more than a few drinks with Bam over the years and hopefully will have a few more some day soon.
Let’s get the band back together!!!!!
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The Band! THE BAND!!
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