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Old 08-14-2021, 03:09 PM   #46
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^^^

Somebody is squealing at the mere mention.


The part of Genocide, holocaust and concentration camps that 95 andzeroes has down - is characterizing other peoples of a different POV ( ie anti-communist) as subhuman
Thank you for divulging who and what One's character is 95 and zeroes



do try in teh future to post something cogent, intellectual and constructive
I think it is impossible for DPST indoctrinated to capture any two of those characteristics in civil debate.
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Old 08-14-2021, 03:13 PM   #47
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for 9500 and zeroes - and all DPST minions
https://www.hmd.org.uk/learn-about-t...s-of-genocide/



Genocide never just happens. There is always a set of circumstances which occur or which are created to build the climate in which genocide can take place.

Gregory H Stanton, President of Genocide Watch developed the 10 stages of genocide which explains the different stages which lead to genocide. At each of the earlier stages there is an opportunity for members of the community or the International Community to halt the stages and stop genocide before it happens.
Click here to download a PDF copy of the ten stages of genocide poster.
The stages are:
  1. Classification - The differences between people are not respected. There’s a division of ‘us’ and ‘them’ which can be carried out using stereotypes, or excluding people who are perceived to be different.
  2. Symbolisation - This is a visual manifestation of hatred. Jews in Nazi Europe were forced to wear yellow stars to show that they were ‘different’.
  3. Discrimination - The dominant group denies civil rights or even citizenship to identified groups. The 1935 Nuremberg Laws stripped Jews of their German citizenship, made it illegal for them to do many jobs or to marry German non-Jews.
  4. Dehumanisation - Those perceived as ‘different’ are treated with no form of human rights or personal dignity. During the Genocide in Rwanda, Tutsis were referred to as ‘cockroaches’; the Nazis referred to Jews as ‘vermin’.
  5. Organisation - Genocides are always planned. Regimes of hatred often train those who go on to carry out the destruction of a people.
  6. Polarisation - Propaganda begins to be spread by hate groups. The Nazis used the newspaper Der Stürmer to spread and incite messages of hate about Jewish people.
  7. Preparation - Perpetrators plan the genocide. They often use euphemisms such as the Nazis' phrase 'The Final Solution' to cloak their intentions. They create fear of the victim group, building up armies and weapons.
  8. Persecution - Victims are identified because of their ethnicity or religion and death lists are drawn up. People are sometimes segregated into ghettos, deported or starved and property is often expropriated. Genocidal massacres begin.
  9. Extermination - The hate group murders their identified victims in a deliberate and systematic campaign of violence. Millions of lives have been destroyed or changed beyond recognition through genocide.
  10. Denial - The perpetrators or later generations deny the existence of any crime.
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Old 08-14-2021, 03:42 PM   #48
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there have been other genocides that skipped alot of those steps. case in point stories in the old testament having Jews committing genocide againsts their enemies by god's command. and there a number of genocide accounts during the american-indian wars in the 1800's.
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Old 08-14-2021, 06:30 PM   #49
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The reality of History is Immutable
One who knows not History - ist condemned to repeat it.


Never forget.

It is what we can do to prevent more holocausts - particularly from Communist totalitarian sources. .
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Old 08-16-2021, 08:44 AM   #50
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^^ agree 100% ( that's why they are trying to rewrite HISTORY)
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Old 08-16-2021, 09:00 AM   #51
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Wrong - DPST propaganda
Trudeau protested about fiden's EO personally - and Canada was hurt badly by the EO
You pronounce the usual DPST propaganda - 'r'

Nothing more.


Please see post #42.
Since when do we give a fuck what Canada thinks? This shit oil sludge would impact our lands way more than Canada's.
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Old 08-16-2021, 09:06 AM   #52
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Since when do we give a fuck what Canada thinks? This shit oil sludge would impact our lands way more than Canada's.
You realize it's in side a pipe right? I mean that's the definition of a pipeline.

We have plenty of other pipelines in the US, but this one didn't offer the Democrats any means of graft so it had to be shut down. Wouldn't want low gas prices for the plebes.

You support a criminal enterprise. Good job, fuckwit.
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Old 08-16-2021, 09:13 AM   #53
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Good job, fuckwit.
You give him too much credit...nothing he says has any logic to it.
Inflation is headed skyward because..."it's Trumps fault"...just ask him
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Old 08-16-2021, 09:25 AM   #54
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You realize it's in side a pipe right? I mean that's the definition of a pipeline.

We have plenty of other pipelines in the US, but this one didn't offer the Democrats any means of graft so it had to be shut down. Wouldn't want low gas prices for the plebes.

You support a criminal enterprise. Good job, fuckwit.
This tar sand crap is way more acidic than normal crude. It eats pipes, and the existing Keystone pipelines have a history of leaking. It also doesn't float on the surface of waterways, it sinks to the bottom and is near impossible to clean up. Crude oil spills generally float on top and can be
cleaned up. Still sucks when crude oil spills, but at least it can be cleaned up. Bad deal all around for the US, fuckwit. All this was for Canada's export, fuckwit. Employment after construction would have been insignificant, fuckwit.
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Old 08-16-2021, 09:30 AM   #55
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Employment after construction would have been insignificant, fuckwit.
But fcuk the lower fuel prices right? I mean that just impacts ALL Americans not just those employed on the pipeline right? Who would Biden NOT be begging to increase production?

You're a fcukwit for supporting this regime. You know it and your arguments are pathetic.
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Old 08-16-2021, 10:07 AM   #56
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Wasn’t the pipeline supposed to be primarily across land? I’m not sure where the “doesn’t float” would make a difference. Frankly I wouldn’t care anyways, low cost energy vs some slimy fish is an easy choice IMO.
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Old 08-16-2021, 10:37 AM   #57
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Wasn’t the pipeline supposed to be primarily across land? I’m not sure where the “doesn’t float” would make a difference. Frankly I wouldn’t care anyways, low cost energy vs some slimy fish is an easy choice IMO.
Might want to educate yourself just a bit.

https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/lo...3d14cb9be.html

As its name implies, everything about the Keystone XL crude-oil pipeline could be “extra large,” including the level of outrage aimed at the 1,073 waterways it would cross in Montana, South Dakota and Nebraska.

A separate project, the Dakota Access pipeline, has attracted more attention in recent months while it has been blocked by protesters who call themselves water protectors. Most of the Dakota Access pipeline is already built, except for a planned crossing under the Missouri River in southern North Dakota where protesters inspired by Native American activists are encamped.

Both pipeline projects vaulted into the news last week when newly sworn-in President Donald Trump issued memorandums supporting their completion. The Dakota Access pipeline, by virtue of being nearly finished, might continue to be the more controversial of the two in the short term.


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The bitumen extracted from oil sands is processed in Canada by diluting it with lighter oils and also condensate from gas wells. That's combined with conventional oil from oil wells and shipped in pipelines. What you end up with isn't a sludge, it's oil.

If you don't build the pipelines to the U.S. what happens? One of two things. Either it's transported by rail. Or the Canadians build more pipeline capacity to the west coast and ship the oil to Asia.

Rail is not as safe and is environmentally riskier than pipelines. As to the second alternative, why wouldn't we want Canadian crude to be transported to U.S. refineries and processed here, instead of in Japan. Korea, China, etc.? Having the pipelines from Canada provides us with more energy security, more jobs, and lower gasoline prices.
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Rails don't go under the Missouri river either. By rail, the whole train isn't going to spring a leak. If one tank leaks it can be contained or moved to where it is less harmful. I guess a whole train could derail, doesn't mean the tanks would leak though. Since 2000, there have been at least 21 railway spills and 734 pipeline spills of crude oil over 1,000 gallons. So by stats, rail seems to be much safer as far as not spilling. The burning of diesel fuel to run the trains I suppose is valid.

Pretty much we have all the oil we can handle from shale extraction. We already export a lot of it.
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Pretty much we have all the oil we can handle from shale extraction. We already export a lot of it.
HAHAHAHAH

That was under Trump.... we're now no longer energy independent thanks to Joey Puddins, your Monumental genius.

LOL
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