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08-18-2021, 12:34 PM
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My brother-in-law who came back from Afghanistan 2 months ago and got a jab has blood clots too. He's been in the hospital for over 2 weeks, partially paralyzed. Early thirties, before in great shape, tons of tests but no answers.
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What a shit show.. sorry to hear that.. Not sure if he was in the Service but when they mandate the vaxx it's going to cause a real clusterfuck because they are going to admin discharge mass numbers of troops. Probably a total loss of combat fitness for a lot of units. And it's not like healthy young guys really need it... they are the least likely to die from this shit.. I think there have been less than 50 deaths attributed to COVID in the Army.
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08-18-2021, 12:44 PM
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My brother-in-law who came back from Afghanistan 2 months ago and got a jab has blood clots too. He's been in the hospital for over 2 weeks, partially paralyzed. Early thirties, before in great shape, tons of tests but no answers.
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Wow that sucks. Hope he recovers soon.
There’s some Marine generals out there telling the DOD to fuck off and if they try’n force their Marines to take the jab that they should come armed. Hopefully it spreads.
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08-18-2021, 02:47 PM
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Blackman, We know where LexusLover stands on this, so this question is for you. Say you owned a gym and for some reason didn’t have liability insurance. You have to make a decision as to whether to require staff to get vaccinated. It’s not feasible to get customers to wear masks.
Would you be more concerned about getting sued by staff for the vaccine requirement, or sued for exposing them to COVID if they’re not required to get vaccinated and end up in the hospital?
I figure the chances of dying from COVID are over 1000x greater than the chances of dying from the vaccine. But does that matter? Dow Corning went bankrupt because of false claims about its silicone breast implants. I think the same thing happened to some companies that were only peripherally related to asbestos useage. So I’m not sure reality matters as much as how easy it is to convince a jury, or just scare the crap out of the defendant so he settles.
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Louisiana is an at will state which means they can fire employees that aren’t vaccinated. There is no “intentional tort” of forced vaccination unless the employer is holding people down and giving them a shot against their will. And there’s no liability for the employer telling their employees to get vaccinated. So as a gym owner I’d have no fear telling my employees to get vaccinated or get terminated.
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08-18-2021, 02:50 PM
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marxist DPSTs do love their mandates, controls, lockdowns, and forcible bending the peoples to their own whims and rules.
from my cold dead hands!
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08-19-2021, 09:56 AM
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Gnadfly I'm so sorry , ^^ the vaccine causes harm and we are being lied to , ^^ for the above narrative
Read American Marxism , and if you don't want the shot ( even for medical reasons ) we terrorist ?????
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08-19-2021, 10:19 AM
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Louisiana is an at will state which means they can fire employees that aren’t vaccinated. There is no “intentional tort” of forced vaccination unless the employer is holding people down and giving them a shot against their will. And there’s no liability for the employer telling their employees to get vaccinated. So as a gym owner I’d have no fear telling my employees to get vaccinated or get terminated.
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"...as a gym owner...."?
Does "judgment proof" sound familiar? The limits of a "gym's" liability policy for NEGLIGENCE (try to find one for intentional torts) wouldn't cover the damages for the death of an employee with dependent children.
As for the "right to work" .... it sounds like you actually believe that protects the employer from an intentional tort claim? I'm not sure what law school you attended, but Obaminable went to Harvard and it didn't do him much good either. Still isn't!
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08-19-2021, 11:53 AM
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"...as a gym owner...."?
Does "judgment proof" sound familiar? The limits of a "gym's" liability policy for NEGLIGENCE (try to find one for intentional torts) wouldn't cover the damages for the death of an employee with dependent children.
As for the "right to work" .... it sounds like you actually believe that protects the employer from an intentional tort claim? I'm not sure what law school you attended, but Obaminable went to Harvard and it didn't do him much good either. Still isn't!
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I responded to the hypothetical given me, so there’s that.
As to whatever you think your point is, you’re still as wrong as in the earlier posts. An employer telling their employee to get the vaccine or they will be terminated isn’t “negligence” by any definition. The D&O would protect the company and the owner from any suit against them but any suit would be dismissed. Further, as I’ve stated in numerous threads before, discrimination in the good ole US of A is quite legal as long as the reason for the discrimination isn’t due to a very limited number of reasons set forth in statute. Vaccination status isn’t an unlawful discrimination so an employer can feel free to discriminate at will.
As I said before, you have no clue what you’re talking about on either the insurance side or the tort side.
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08-19-2021, 11:54 AM
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"...as a gym owner...."?
Does "judgment proof" sound familiar? The limits of a "gym's" liability policy for NEGLIGENCE (try to find one for intentional torts) wouldn't cover the damages for the death of an employee with dependent children.
As for the "right to work" .... it sounds like you actually believe that protects the employer from an intentional tort claim? I'm not sure what law school you attended, but Obaminable went to Harvard and it didn't do him much good either. Still isn't!
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Can you still get a law degree from the back of a match book?
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08-19-2021, 11:55 AM
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I'm not sure what law school you attended, but Obaminable went to Harvard and it didn't do him much good either. Still isn't!
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Affirmative Action strikes again....
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08-19-2021, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 1blackman1
Louisiana is an at will state which means they can fire employees that aren’t vaccinated. There is no “intentional tort” of forced vaccination unless the employer is holding people down and giving them a shot against their will. And there’s no liability for the employer telling their employees to get vaccinated. So as a gym owner I’d have no fear telling my employees to get vaccinated or get terminated.
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Thanks for answering my question Blackman. It gives me a bit more faith in the tort system.
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08-19-2021, 12:12 PM
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To Gnadfly...my father never went to Afghanistan, but was completely paralyzed polio in his mid thirties because he didn't take the vaccine. Miserable life til he died. Cause of you inlaws problem is indeterminate by your own statement, so why jump to a conclusion that it is vaccine related as opposed to chemical exposure, contaminated water, etc., overseas?
1BM is correct regarding employer mandates.
Check TB for a precedent...healthcare has required for years. I don't have time to research, but I recall that those with TB could once be forced to go to sanitariums.
Too many people with political objectives, but no fundamental knowledge of subject matter (usual suspects) opining here.
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08-19-2021, 08:23 PM
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I responded to the hypothetical given me, so there’s that.
As to whatever you think your point is, you’re still as wrong as in the earlier posts. An employer telling their employee to get the vaccine or they will be terminated isn’t “negligence” by any definition. The D&O would protect the company and the owner from any suit against them but any suit would be dismissed. Further, as I’ve stated in numerous threads before, discrimination in the good ole US of A is quite legal as long as the reason for the discrimination isn’t due to a very limited number of reasons set forth in statute. Vaccination status isn’t an unlawful discrimination so an employer can feel free to discriminate at will.
As I said before, you have no clue what you’re talking about on either the insurance side or the tort side.
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No you did not - No documentation or references - at a lin this entire thread.
Get off teh high horse - go pretend represent the teachers unions and their crt racism.
DPST party is teh party of enforced segregation and Racism in America!!!!!!!!
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08-19-2021, 08:32 PM
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Wait till you hear about the Doctor that will not see any of his unvaccinated patients. Not emergency medicine.
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08-19-2021, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by royamcr
Wait till you hear about the Doctor that will not see any of his unvaccinated patients. Not emergency medicine.
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Can't make any money off of them that's why, lol.
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08-19-2021, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 1blackman1
Louisiana is an at will state which means they can fire employees that aren’t vaccinated. There is no “intentional tort” of forced vaccination unless the employer is holding people down and giving them a shot against their will. And there’s no liability for the employer telling their employees to get vaccinated. So as a gym owner I’d have no fear telling my employees to get vaccinated or get terminated.
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Let me guess you run a "Planet Shitness". It's really a Food Court with workout equipment, lol.
https://maxinoutnblackinout.com/plan...dicts-fitness/
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