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		|  12-01-2021, 07:52 PM | #46 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jackie S  When SCOTUS decided on Roe, do you think that they envisioned that abortion would become used as birth control in over 98 percent of the cases.? |  
Abortion is 100% birth  control. One form of it. Yes. She has control of her body.  Not the state.
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		|  12-01-2021, 08:58 PM | #47 |  
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		|  12-02-2021, 02:58 AM | #48 |  
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Too bad you're lying.  Most constitutional scholars say that Roe, like Plessey, Dredd, and Buck, was decided incorrectly.  There is no right to privacy identified in the Constitution.  Yep, I listed today as well and it looks like Roe might be corrected.  What does that mean?  It means that women don't lose anything in spite of your opening.  It means that the decision goes back to the states where it should have been left in 1973.
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		|  12-02-2021, 03:00 AM | #49 |  
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					Originally Posted by eccieuser9500  Abortion is 100% birth control. One form of it. Yes. She has control of her body.  Not the state. |  
As was pointed out today, what about the body of the child?  I guess you're okay with the state having the power of life and death of an unborn child.  You're a real piece of work.
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		|  12-02-2021, 03:30 AM | #50 |  
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					Originally Posted by eccieuser9500  You're boring me today.  I don't have the desire to keep trolling  you. It's hard to digest your attempts at making sense. 
"KIND RIGHTS"? Sounds kind of cool. (Edit, man, please!)
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You're full of shit like all commies...a commmie starting a thread on human rights, that too comedy gold!!
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		|  12-02-2021, 04:59 AM | #51 |  
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					Originally Posted by bb1961  Do you happen to have any accomplishments of BRANDON'S that you can think of...VM and Ol' stokey started a few threads but fell short   
I'm sure with your MANY doctorates you can come up with something or is that wishful thinking?? |  
What about Trump?
 
Wall built? No
 
Mexico pay for what little bit that was? No
 
Repeal Obamacare? No
 
Reduce debt and deficits? No
 
But he did appoint sC Justives that will overturn a medical procedure that the majority of the country supports.
 
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		|  12-02-2021, 05:00 AM | #52 |  
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					Originally Posted by bb1961  You're full of shit like all commies...a commmie starting a thread on human rights, that too comedy gold!! |  
Who the fuck do you think you are with all this commie talk? 
 
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Are you a Fascist?
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		|  12-02-2021, 05:03 AM | #53 |  
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					Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn  As was pointed out today, what about the body of the child?  I guess you're okay with the state having the power of life and death of an unborn child.  You're a real piece of work. |  
So you think doctors are killing children,  yet are too chickenshit to do anything about it other than posts on a hooker board?
 
Got it. A man of conviction .
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		|  12-02-2021, 08:36 AM | #54 |  
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			Really about states right s and 10 AD , powers to states
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		|  12-02-2021, 08:39 AM | #55 |  
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					Originally Posted by WTF  So you think doctors are killing children,  yet are too chickenshit to do anything about it other than posts on a hooker board?
 Got it. A man of conviction .
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Do what, bomb planned parenthood?  All that can be done is fight it through the legal system.
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		|  12-02-2021, 10:56 AM | #56 |  
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					Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn  Too bad you're lying.  Most constitutional scholars say that Roe, like Plessey, Dredd, and Buck, was decided incorrectly.  There is no right to privacy identified in the Constitution.  Yep, I listed today as well and it looks like Roe might be corrected.  What does that mean?  It means that women don't lose anything in spite of your opening.  It means that the decision goes back to the states where it should have been left in 1973. |  
Cool-- so if the decision is left back to the states, I suppose that is fine-- but then laws like the one in Texas where a person can be sued for crossing state lines to get an abortion elsewhere should also be struck down.  Pretty sure states don't have the right to interfere with interstate travel, regardless of the reason.
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		|  12-02-2021, 11:27 AM | #57 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jacuzzme  Do what, bomb planned parenthood?  All that can be done is fight it through the legal system. |  
If I truly believed kids were being murdered...bombing PPP would be the only viable option for the righteous. 
 
There have only been a few righteous amongst yall.
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		|  12-02-2021, 11:30 AM | #58 |  
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					Originally Posted by Grace Preston  Cool-- so if the decision is left back to the states, I suppose that is fine-- but then laws like the one in Texas where a person can be sued for crossing state lines to get an abortion elsewhere should also be struck down.  Pretty sure states don't have the right to interfere with interstate travel, regardless of the reason. |  
True dat Grace!
 
The plan B pill should be a popular alternative. But I'm sure certain states will outlaw that too.
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		|  12-02-2021, 11:31 AM | #59 |  
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		|  12-02-2021, 11:33 AM | #60 |  
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			Some of you guys have fallen off the turnip truck.It's not a single issue. There are two  specifically distinct issues.
 Roe was primarily based on individual constitutional rights. There's no way the supremes will let that concept go as it would open the door to zillions of other attempts to impose limits on rights. The 2nd comes to mind.
 
 But, do not the states have the right to regulate medical practices in the states? Yes they do.  How they regulate which medical procedures thus becomes the actual issue, as they have to stay away from individual federal rights.
 This I call this the run them (drs) out of town (state) clause. As long as these are not discriminatory, sometimes they stand. But, I remember a case from over a decade ago where a state stated how a specific type of medical facility had specific types of facility requirements attempted to be put into law. The case got fun when a judge asked if same facilty rules would apply to dentist, etc, offices. Opps.
 
 I predict the Mississippi? thing will be a partial for both sides. But note, the judges are only going to rule on the specific claim the attys present. Which may be quite less than what a lot of folks are expecting. Thus, both sides will continue to be upset.
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