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Old 02-25-2024, 08:22 AM   #31
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So to recap - just in this thread we have evidence of the corrupt FBI

1. stealing money and property from the citizens they’re raiding

2. murdering a harmless disabled elderly man from Utah and then covering up their crime by refusing to release the body cam footage. Because the corrupt FBI murdered the man in cold blood.

3. Spying on President Trump's campaign and participating in the Russia, Russia, Russia HOAX by Comey, McCabe, Baker, Strzock, Page and others

4. The corrupt FBI being caught spying on Catholics and targeting parents who dared question elected officials

The FBI needs shut down
So, you're saying we should defund the FBI? And take jobs away from 35,000+ Americans? Lol. Nice.
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Old 02-25-2024, 09:24 AM   #32
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So, you're saying we should defund the FBI? And take jobs away from 35,000+ Americans? Lol. Nice.
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The FBI has turned into the leftists Gestapo. Disband the agency and start over
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Old 02-25-2024, 09:46 AM   #33
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So scorched earth style on the highest level of le in the land when a biased view is not met? Is that the murica yall want? Not me. At the fbi or ANY place. The acts of the very few don't represent all. The fbi has the highest integrity to most except liars and folks trying to inject conspiracies for profit and political gain like Comer and Grassley. Smirnov the maga choir boy got caught. Now maga playing misdirection.
Iam proud of the fbi work they do!
Despite those that want to defund and cancel the top le agency of the land.
I believe in America and the fbi. It's those who use them for political gain and profit that are corrupt. Fact
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Old 02-25-2024, 10:07 AM   #34
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The FBI has turned into the leftists Gestapo. Disband the agency and start over
I see. So, you still want the FBI to be a thing, you just don't want them to pursue justice and apprehend criminals? I think I understand now.
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Old 02-25-2024, 10:19 AM   #35
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So scorched earth style on the highest level of le in the land when a biased view is not met? Is that the murica yall want? Not me. At the fbi or ANY place. The acts of the very few don't represent all. The fbi has the highest integrity to most except liars and folks trying to inject conspiracies for profit and political gain like Comer and Grassley. Smirnov the maga choir boy got caught. Now maga playing misdirection.
Iam proud of the fbi work they do!
Despite those that want to defund and cancel the top le agency of the land.
I believe in America and the fbi. It's those who use them for political gain and profit that are corrupt. Fact
I really do think this is murica they want. A murica where an unhinged, heavily armed lunatic in Utah is free to make all the death threats he wants, point a gun at members of law enforcement, and threaten to assassinate the POTUS, all with no repercussions.

I don't think they realize the slippery slope effect here, and that it can easily work the other way. If they think the FBI is "corrupt" for defending themselves against an unhinged, heavily armed lunatic pointng a gun at their faces, who knows how much they'll allow "their side" to get away with.

I'm just glad these people aren't in charge of making any of the important decisions, and that this is all just message board nonsense.
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Old 02-25-2024, 10:28 AM   #36
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So scorched earth style on the highest level of le in the land
Scorched earth is what it will take to fix the most corrupt LE agency in the Federal government

The FBI needs an enema - flush everyone out as the majority are corrupt and causing the rest to become that way. Start over, new leader, new ideals, new focus, new employees. That is the way
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Old 02-25-2024, 10:32 AM   #37
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Scorched earth is what it will take to fix the most corrupt LE agency in the Federal government

The FBI needs an enema - flush everyone out as the majority are corrupt and causing the rest to become that way. Start over, new leader, new ideals, new focus, new employees. That is the way
Thanks for confirming that just because of the actions of a tiny minority, you want 35,000+ Americans to lose their jobs. Highly specialized jobs that they spent years training for.
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Old 02-25-2024, 10:43 AM   #38
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The FBI as any large law enforcement agency does will find issues with specific agents and other employees and the OP here clearly indicates they are willing to prosecute their own when misconduct is discovered.

In theory I would agree with a flush and reboot on a number of government agencies but then we would just repopulate them from the same fucked up system that created the mess we are currently in now.

Fact is sometimes FBI agents have no choice but to end the life of people who have crossed the line. They need to investigate political figures from time to time and when those people lie and commit fraud then action needs to be taken. By definition much of what the FBI does will ruffle the feathers of 'the other side' when one party is in power. If party politics is all that matter to a person then they will always be mad so no amount of flushing will solve anything.

Until our government is faced with actual accountability and we the people have options that range beyond ego driven twitter junkies or past their due date career politicians who can't remember if they are actually President or not we do not have the ability to enact actual reform.
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Old 02-25-2024, 10:41 PM   #39
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More reminders and examples of how the FBI is corrupt

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Old 02-25-2024, 11:09 PM   #40
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The Hunter Biden fiasco is definitely a smudge on the FBI's record. From what I understand they had knowledge of Hunger and papa Joe's money train from China starting around 2017. Who did the head of FBI operations report to in 2017? 2018? 2019?

The Chinese spy sex tape story broke in 2020 if I remember and dated back to sometime in 2015 or 2016 and remind me who was the FBI chief reporting to at that time?

The chief executive is ultimately responsible for misconduct in Federal agencies right? Pretty sure I read that sentiment in this thread somewhere.

The 'dossier' was a mess as well I do recall Trump filed some lawsuits over those in an attempt to discredit the content which is seen as largey untrue or exaggerated in Florida and even the UK. Those were dismissed without merit as I recall.
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Old 02-26-2024, 05:20 AM   #41
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You consider the nation’s highest law enforcement apparatus blatantly interfering with a presidential election a “smudge on their record”? Wow. They didn’t dismiss the dossier, they used it as a predicate to surveil Trump’s campaign knowing full well it was false.
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I consider a sitting President attempting to tamper with an election quite disturbing and again ask who was overseeing the Justice Dept when the FBI was investigating Hunter Biden?

The FBI has been party to some bullshit I am surprised nobody has mentioned the Hillary Clinton debacle it definitely comes to mind when I think back about cases that they dropped the ball on.

We can talk for days about the dysfunction within large Federal agencies like the FBI and how the process of one trying to investigate issues that effect others with any effectiveness.

Its this nonsense that one side enables the issue significantly more than the other. If truth and justice are of value anyway.
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Old 02-26-2024, 11:01 AM   #43
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The FBI has been party to some bullshit I am surprised nobody has mentioned the Hillary Clinton debacle it definitely comes to mind when I think back about cases that they dropped the ball on.
Yeah, the 2016 election was where the FBI really started to go off the rails. Then-Director Jim Comey should never have called a press conference on July 5, 2016 to proclaim "no reasonable prosecutor would bring a case" against Hillary Clinton for being grossly negligent, oops I mean extremely careless, with classified information. It was above Comey's pay grade to make that determination. I always thought the FBI was supposed to investigate, then let the DOJ do the prosecuting. Silly me.

In fairness, Comey was just covering for that corrupt Attorney General Loretta Lynch. Remember how she was caught talking to Bill Clinton in his campaign plane on the tarmac in Phoenix? She let him know the fix was in and Hillary had nothing to worry about! After her little chit-chat with Slick Willy became publicly known, she was totally compromised. So she let Comey step out of his lane and make the call for her.

Once Jim Comey made it ok for the FBI to wade deep deep deep into the partisan jungle, other agents on the 7th floor of the J. Edgar Hoover Building took notice. Operation Crossfire Hurricane was launched a few weeks later.
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You consider the nation’s highest law enforcement apparatus blatantly interfering with a presidential election a “smudge on their record”? Wow. They didn’t dismiss the dossier, they used it as a predicate to surveil Trump’s campaign knowing full well it was false.
Indeed. If interfering with a presidential election is just a smudge, no wonder he thinks the corrupt FBI can do little wrong
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Old 02-26-2024, 09:16 PM   #45
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The Hunter Biden fiasco is definitely a smudge on the FBI's record. From what I understand they had knowledge of Hunger and papa Joe's money train from China starting around 2017. Who did the head of FBI operations report to in 2017? 2018? 2019?

The Chinese spy sex tape story broke in 2020 if I remember and dated back to sometime in 2015 or 2016 and remind me who was the FBI chief reporting to at that time?
... Lemme get this straight... So you're sayin' that
Trump KNEW abot the Bidens getting money from China
back when He was on a President?? ...

... Reckon I've seen some sad posts by you lately,
but this one surely takes the biscuit. I'm sorry to say.
... But it WAS good conversing with you.

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