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			07-26-2024, 11:40 AM
			
			
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			Kamala is far from stupid. She's well accomplished, witty and likeable. 
She's caught trumpf in polls. No need for rebranding. S0hes fine.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-26-2024, 12:49 PM
			
			
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				Kamala is far from stupid. She's well accomplished, witty and likeable. 
She's caught trumpf in polls. No need for rebranding. S0hes fine. 
			
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She's neither accomplished, witty nor likable. It she was all those things she would have had a much higher approval rating than 2% in 2020 and wouldn't have dropped out of the 2020 Presidential race. If anything she would have been nominated. So yes she's being rebranded as witty and accomplished and worthy of being elected president. Without realizing it you are even rebranding her as the one that can beat Donald Trump in spite of her failure as a presidential candidate and Vice President which was given to her.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-26-2024, 06:27 PM
			
			
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				She's neither accomplished, witty nor likable. It she was all those things she would have had a much higher approval rating than 2% in 2020 and wouldn't have dropped out of the 2020 Presidential race. If anything she would have been nominated. So yes she's being rebranded as witty and accomplished and worthy of being elected president. Without realizing it you are even rebranding her as the one that can beat Donald Trump in spite of her failure as a presidential candidate and Vice President which was given to her. 
			
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Buckle up, Levi . This is the candidate we've embraced and there's no going back.
 
The fact is, I like her.
 
And even if everything in you say is true -- she is a demonstrably sane, intelligent, and empathetic leader.  Lots of voters will take her in a heartbeat over Trump.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-26-2024, 09:09 PM
			
			
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			07-26-2024, 10:58 PM
			
			
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Sorry, man, I had to change that more to my liking. Haha
 
There is nothing wrong with rebranding whether it is a consumer product or a person... in the industry I work in, I literally have four different resumes focused on sticking out to a potential employer. I'd be a fool if I branded myself the same as I did years ago and just had one resume for all.
 
This is not 2020. Rebranding is necessary for both candidates if they want to win. One is doing just that; the other is not. November will show why rebranding is important.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-26-2024, 11:20 PM
			
			
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				Buckle up, Levi . This is the candidate we've embraced and there's no going back. 
 
The fact is, I like her. 
 
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That's good you like her. If she wins you'll live under the illusion that she has the country's best interest in mind.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-27-2024, 05:28 AM
			
			
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			07-27-2024, 06:28 AM
			
			
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				That's good you like her. If she wins you'll live under the illusion that she has the country's best interest in mind. 
			
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1. Build back better is working.
 
2. The unemployment rate that the WSJ reports is 4.1% not 12%. 
 
3. The Federal Budget Deficit has decreased under Biden/Harris
 
4. The S&P 500 stock index & Nasdaq stock index has gone thru the roof under Biden/Harris
 
5. The above facts are in the country's best interest.
 
6. Trump only cares about himself. He does not care about the USA. You are in denial if you think different.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-27-2024, 06:34 AM
			
			
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The latest Fox News Poll has Harris tied with Trump in three Key swing states, Mich, Penn and Wisc. If Harris wins all three she will get to 270 electoral college votes.
 
Mich: Harris 49% Trump 49%
 
Penn: Harris 49% Trump 49%
 
Wisc: Harris 49% Trump 50%
 
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			07-27-2024, 08:27 AM
			
			
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				1. Build back better is working. 
 
2. The unemployment rate that the WSJ reports is 4.1% not 12%.  
 
3. The Federal Budget Deficit has decreased under Biden/Harris 
 
4. The S&P 500 stock index & Nasdaq stock index has gone thru the roof under Biden/Harris 
 
5. The above facts are in the country's best interest. 
 
6. Trump only cares about himself. He does not care about the USA. You are in denial if you think different. 
			
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Dream on kid. It doesn't matter who wins nothing changes and none of them ever tell the truth.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-27-2024, 09:33 AM
			
			
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				Dream on kid. It doesn't matter who wins nothing changes and none of them ever tell the truth. 
			
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Things have changed from one president to the next just go back as far as 2008.
 
1. End of 2008 Wall Street Investment Banks had a meltdown.
 
2. End of 2016 Obama and Tim Geitner bailed out Wall St and the DJIA index gained 12,000 points.
 
3. End of 2020 The world had the Pandemic and the Unemployment was 15% in the USA (The only time it has been higher than 12%)
 
4. End of 2024 Biden/Harris build back better has worked. The Unemployment Rate is down to 4.1%. The S&P 500 index and the Nasdaq index has gone thru the roof.
 
5. It does matter who is president and things do change over time. Just look at GDP numbers and Federal Budget Deficit Numbers. Both have improved under a Democratic president.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-27-2024, 09:37 AM
			
			
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				The latest Fox News Poll has Harris tied with Trump in three Key swing states, Mich, Penn and Wisc. If Harris wins all three she will get to 270 electoral college votes. 
Mich: Harris 49% Trump 49%
 
Penn: Harris 49% Trump 49%
 
Wisc: Harris 49% Trump 50%
 
It only took Harris less than a week to make up 5 points.    
			
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... THAT is if you believe Fox's polling. 
Look at the other polls. ... They show things a bit different. 
Trump has a Nice Lead. ...    ...   
... The Dem's biggest problem with Kamala  - IS Kamala! :  
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			07-27-2024, 09:47 AM
			
			
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				Things have changed from one president to the next just go back as far as 2008. 
 
1. End of 2008 Wall Street Investment Banks had a meltdown. 
 
2. End of 2016 Obama and Tim Geitner bailed out Wall St and the DJIA index gained 12,000 points. 
 
3. End of 2020 The world had the Pandemic and the Unemployment was 15% in the USA (The only time it has been higher than 12%) 
 
4. End of 2024 Biden/Harris build back better has worked. The Unemployment Rate is down to 4.1%. The S&P 500 index and the Nasdaq index has gone thru the roof. 
 
5. It does matter who is president and things do change over time. Just look at GDP numbers and Federal Budget Deficit Numbers. Both have improved under a Democratic president. 
			
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What did Biden and Harris build back better? Was it for the people or them? You might want to look at it on those terms. I live in this country the same as you, I don't see anything changing for the better. It's the same old vile crap.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-27-2024, 06:13 PM
			
			
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				Kamala needs rebranding all right - back to SF
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			“The S&P 500 index and the Nasdaq index has gone thru the roof.”
Not so fast.  S&P 500 up 41% from Jan 2021 through this past Friday.  Inflation up 21% for the same period (ie during the Bidenflation years).  Net 20% over 3.516 years or 5.35% per year.
 
So in nominal terms, markets up.  In real dollar buying power, not so much kiddo.
 
And your point no. 2 is a flat out lie: The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, also known as the "bank bailout of 2008" or the "Wall Street bailout", was a United States federal law enacted during the Great Recession, which created federal programs to "bail out" failing financial institutions and banks. The bill was proposed by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, passed by the 110th United States Congress, and was signed into law by President George W. Bush.
 
Build back better (what a joke): 7 federal government EV chargers -
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/climat...-slow-rollout/
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