15 States Sueing Biden/Harris Administration

[Levianon17]

15 States are Sueing the Biden/Harris Administration for allowing noncitizens to enroll in Obamacare. This is the reason why there are so many undocumented immigrants. There is no incentive to become citizens they still receive all the benefits a legal citizen receives.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/15...f9b19d03&ei=30

[TechPapi]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

15 States are Sueing the Biden/Harris Administration for allowing noncitizens to enroll in Obamacare. This is the reason why there are so many undocumented immigrants. There is no incentive to become citizens they still receive all the benefits a legal citizen receives.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/15...f9b19d03&ei=30

They're suing to block a rule that hasn't taken effect yet. These are the same folks identified as "dreamers" and not from the border invasion, the MAGAts tend to go on about. These people were brought over as kids by their parents and have most likely paid taxes like the rest of us.

Keep peddling bullshit wrapped up in scare tactics.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by TechPapi

They're suing to block a rule that hasn't taken effect yet. These are the same folks identified as "dreamers" and not from the border invasion, the MAGAts tend to go on about. These people were brought over as kids by their parents and have most likely paid taxes like the rest of us.

Keep peddling bullshit wrapped up in scare tactics.

No, these are non-citizens that will get free health care and guess who will be paying for it. Yeah, these states are nipping this bullshit in the bud.

[TechPapi]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

No, these are non-citizens that will get free health care and guess who will be paying for it. Yeah, these states are nipping this bullshit in the bud.

Good for them! Use up those state tax dollars to chase non-existent immigrant boogeymen. lol

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by TechPapi

Good for them! Use up those state tax dollars to chase non-existent immigrant boogeymen. lol

No, I am afraid non-citizens do exist in just about every state. America has given them great incentives to leave their home countries and come here at the expense of American taxpayer. What we have worked hard for all our lives they get for just showing up.

[BillysEatinIt]

Originally Posted by TechPapi

Good for them! Use up those state tax dollars to chase non-existent immigrant boogeymen. lol

Also, we never want to miss an opportunity to go after these damn DCA people. Many of whom pay taxes, etc. Fuck em all! Compassion and fairness just plain costs too much.

And it is much more fun to exaggerate issues like this, keep the flames of hate going.

Changing their status does not automatically mean they get health care paid for or subsidized. It would still be needs based. This is dumb.

[txdot-guy]

People make the classic mistake of thinking Immigration is a zero-sum game. It’s not.

Why Immigration is Not a Zero-Sum Game
https://immigrationforum.org/article/jeffwasdenblog/

[TechPapi]

Originally Posted by BillysEatinIt

Also, we never want to miss an opportunity to go after these damn DCA people. Many of whom pay taxes, etc. Fuck em all! Compassion and fairness just plain costs too much.

And it is much more fun to exaggerate issues like this, keep the flames of hate going.

Changing their status does not automatically mean they get health care paid for or subsidized. It would still be needs based. This is dumb.

Just look at the states that initiated the lawsuit: "Besides Kansas and North Dakota, the other states involved in the lawsuit are Alabama, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Ohio, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, and Virginia."

Without looking it up, I'm willing to bet most of those states are essentially federal welfare states. They take in more to keep afloat than they produce in taxes. Most of the DACA residents probably don't even live there. All for show.


Bear in mind that the OP of the thread doesn't believe the moon is solid, and goes on about a global Zionist conspiracy running everything. We can safely ignore this if he thinks it's a big deal.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

People make the classic mistake of thinking Immigration is a zero-sum game. It’s not.

Why Immigration is Not a Zero-Sum Game
https://immigrationforum.org/article/jeffwasdenblog/

Cute little article. Right now, immigration is a zero-sum game. There's winners and losers and unfortunately the losers are the American people. Maybe one day the Politicians in this country will get their shit together and come up with a system that will actually work for both immigrant and the citizens of this country.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Cute little article. Right now, immigration is a zero-sum game. There's winners and losers and unfortunately the losers are the American people. Maybe one day the Politicians in this country will get their shit together and come up with a system that will actually work for both immigrant and the citizens of this country.

Immigration Is Powering the U.S. Economy
https://time.com/6963553/immigration-u-s-economy/

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Immigration Is Powering the U.S. Economy
https://time.com/6963553/immigration-u-s-economy/

This article is just an opinion. There is no mention of the path to citizenship.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

This article is just an opinion. There is no mention of the path to citizenship.

I thought that you needed to work to get access to subsidies through the ACA. DACA recipients are eligible for work permits which means that they pay income and fica taxes. Therefore they should get access to the ACA. That’s better than having them use the healthcare system without paying into the system.

As far as getting a path to citizenship that requires congress to pass legislation allowing DACA to apply for citizenship outside the standard procedure which is so broken it can take decades to gain a visa.

[Levianon17]

[QUOTE=txdot-guy;1063572694]I thought that you needed to work to get access to subsidies through the ACA. DACA recipients are eligible for work permits which means that they pay income and fica taxes. Therefore they should get access to the ACA. That’s better than having them use the healthcare system without paying into the system.

As far as getting a path to citizenship that requires congress to pass legislation allowing DACA to apply for citizenship outside the standard procedure which is so broken it can take decades to gain a visa.[/QUOTE]
Well, that's too dam bad. Maybe the Government should have thought things out before letting people from other countries just pour into the country. The bottom line, America is quite dysfunctional when it comes to immigration.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

I thought that you needed to work to get access to subsidies through the ACA. DACA recipients are eligible for work permits which means that they pay income and fica taxes. Therefore they should get access to the ACA. That’s better than having them use the healthcare system without paying into the system.

As far as getting a path to citizenship that requires congress to pass legislation allowing DACA to apply for citizenship outside the standard procedure which is so broken it can take decades to gain a visa.

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Well, that's too dam bad. Maybe the Government should have thought things out before letting people from other countries just pour into the country. The bottom line, America is quite dysfunctional when it comes to immigration.

You’re right. Our immigration system is totally broken. It’s too bad that Trump shitcanned the first real immigration reform bill we’ve had since the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986.

Immigration advocates were pissed when it looked like the bill was going to pass and then secretly pleased when it was killed by Republicans. It gives them another chance to pass a more liberal bill in the future while giving democrats the opportunity to counter the gop border messaging.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

You’re right. Our immigration system is totally broken. It’s too bad that Trump shitcanned the first real immigration reform bill we’ve had since the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986.

Immigration advocates were pissed when it looked like the bill was going to pass and then secretly pleased when it was killed by Republicans. It gives them another chance to pass a more liberal bill in the future while giving democrats the opportunity to counter the gop border messaging.

Don't blame it on Trump. The guy only had four years in office. The immigration system was in shambles long before he got there. You can blame Bill Clinton, George H Bush and Obama. Trump did the best he could with what he had to work with. With all the years Biden had in Washington he could have done much better.