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Old 03-01-2025, 04:01 PM   #16
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Speaking of Biden.... Does anyone here know how many times Biden had discussions with Putin after Zelensky prodded him to attack for trying to join NATO?

I'll give you a hint -- It's closer to ZERO than it is to THREE.
WTF was he doing???
Oh wait -- that's an easy one -- he has NO CLUE what he was doing. He shoulda been 25'd in 2021
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Old 03-01-2025, 06:56 PM   #17
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Well! This is all figured out then!

You boys crack me up, with your little old wive's knitting club.
You’re very welcome for us figuring it all out for ya. Now you don’t have to do any of your own actual research. Other than watching MSNBC. And welcome to the little old wive’s knitting club…again…or still.



FYI…I’m no “Fish”. Sitting down with me at a Texas Hold’em table would be a mistake. But, if you decide to do so? Bring extra for additional buy-ins, you’re gonna need it. People like you with anger issues are an easy mark. Even if I only had a 2-7 off suit pocket before the flop.

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Old 03-01-2025, 07:05 PM   #18
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Come on FB. It's not happy hour yet. In fact it was not even noon when you posted that. I know it's Saturday, but it's a little early to get tipsy and post nonsense.
It’s never too early lol. But no, I wasn’t typsy, I was still lightheaded from my morning sugar baby visit. Don’t hold it against me lol. I’ll try and get back to your other points tomorrow. Been busy trying to figure out how to post music vids.

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Old 03-01-2025, 07:35 PM   #19
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This pig, Zelensky, is being paid homage by retarded democrat party elected officials, constituents, and media ghouls roughly the same way they all glorified Fauci and we see how this turned out.

If you're falling for this it's a rudimentary matter of your own inability to learn.

SUPERTRUMP is not buying what these shitstains are selling, it's this simple.

Not sure if Zelensky is any worse than Dementia Joe or not, what they have in common is both of them could care less about their idiotic supporters.

Personally I'm more relieved than ever that Cockula got trampled in the election, imagine how this would unfold if she wasn't repudiated so severely.

MAGA +++.

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Old 03-01-2025, 10:16 PM   #20
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Old 03-02-2025, 08:53 AM   #21
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It seems that the reality of all this is that Trump lost ground on his chance to end the war and look like a hero. For a few reasons:

1. I see it that Vance fucked Trump sideways in that meeting. It didn’t go off the rails until Vance shot his mouth off.

2. Trump wants a Nobel Peace Prize badly….he can’t stand that Obama got one and he has not. If Vance and the pet reporter are not in the room, I bet Trump gets the praise from Zelensky that he wanted and things would have gone fine

3. Trump now has to look at his legacy, as it were…….he needs this Ukraine deal to get that Prize. Vance got in the way by igniting that fight. Watch for Vance to be on probation by the Trump team.

4. Trump also lost ground on keeping the US in the forefront of world politics. What happened is going to strengthen the bond of European nations, in a way that can possibly create a third front of countries aligned against the US…..Russia. China and Europe. Not gonna be easy being isolated from the world in this way.

5. The stock market has been falling ever since Trump took office, a bit at a time. Failing to get Ukraine settled, and creating a third adversary from the Ukraine meeting debacle, will further erode the US Economy as we go forward
https://www.barrons.com/articles/sto...tlook-3a9c1131

My view is that all this came from Vance stupidly opening his mouth. He’s not there, none of the above happens , as Trump would have gotten his praise and the deal would be done.

Watch for Vance to be slowly sidelined, as Trump tried to find a way to get Ukraine settled in a way that makes him looks good.
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Old 03-02-2025, 10:46 AM   #22
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Queue the Fish to say that I am actually the one with the "hate" here....
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FYI…I’m no “Fish”. Sitting down with me at a Texas Hold’em table would be a mistake. But, if you decide to do so? Bring extra for additional buy-ins, you’re gonna need it. People like you with anger issues are an easy mark. Even if I only had a 2-7 off suit pocket before the flop.

Prediction confirmed.

Admit it - you had to look up what a "Fish" was....and all the rest of it too. You fool no one. I think this is at least the second time that you have had to tell us all that you know what a "Fish" is too. Truly hysterical!

The difference between you and me is that I have never seriously tried to fool anyone. I just tried to keep an ID alive as long as reasonable to mock the hypocrisy and old white man's privilege. I have literally owned you since the first time you came to my attention with your rationalizations and "research."

But enough. One way or the other, you are on my permanent ignore list.

To my homies: All good things come to an end. I close. In more ways than one, perhaps. The severity of my demise remains to be determined.

Enjoy the Club and the denial. JB will be back soon to pretend his hate is as legit as NBT's. Then things will be truly awesome here. No one to fact check or try to point out the gaslighting and No Cancel Culture whatsoever. Just more of MAGA's finest cheerleading.

There ain't nuthin worse than a man who does not know his limits. One that has to continually confirm the validity of his biases by parroting and plagiarizing the thoughts of others who are only looking to take advantage of them.

Thankfully...this IS a hooker board. You are only apologists and volunteer propagandists for Trump (not especially good ones, either). You have no real ability to help him in his madness.

But you also have no real cause for hope with him. He will sacrifice you as easily as he has everyone else.

My one mistake with this site was that early on I assumed that people who had a liberal attitude about things like "sex work" would be more tolerant and empathetic of others from different backgrounds and beliefs. I have been profoundly disappointed.

But then again, some of you will literally fuck anything.
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Old 03-02-2025, 12:01 PM   #23
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Correct -- The mineral deal ensures that Russia will not invade Ukraine lest it PISS off Trump -- Zelensky needs NOTHING else. He's also got Trump instead of Biden for deterence.

Remember what happened when Bidumb famously said -- "DON'T"?
Well... Putin DID because Biden is toothless.

Zelensky wants Trump to say he is on "Zulinski's Side".
Were Trump to say that -- Russia would not entertain ANYTHING.
Explain to me how a MEDIATOR is supposed to take a "side" AT ALL and then expect the "other side" to come to the table.

I know I know.... hard to argue with common sense

Zelensky's problem is that he thought he could walk in and treat Trump like he treated Bideumb.
Trump is not mediating. He is surrendering and appeasing.
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Old 03-02-2025, 12:37 PM   #24
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So Zelensky should not bring up security concerns? Countries attacked and under siege from more powerful neighbors are not concerned about their security? As President of his country, he should not be talking about security?

So you think giving the U.S. access to it's minerals will keep Ukraine safe? Maybe you do, but Zelensky knows better. He does not trust Putin, with good reason. He also does not trust Trump, also with good reason. Trump is willing to sell Ukraine down the river to keep his friend Putin happy. Zelensky can visualize a scenario where Trump and Putin work out a deal where Russia takes control of Ukraine and let's Trump keep its minerals.
Yes, Zelenskyy should bring up security concerns, absolutely. He has every right to, but he should have held off until they were in the private meeting before the public signing, not in the open in front of the press. Anything promised and/or conceded in public would have hurt us for future leverage with Putin going forward. If the deal had been signed, then Trump could have gone to Putin with a US/Ukraine agreement in his back pocket. I believe that’s the leverage Trump was looking for with this deal.

So yes, I do think that the US having major economic interests in Ukraine would have kept them safe.
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Old 03-02-2025, 12:41 PM   #25
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Trump is not mediating. He is surrendering and appeasing.
I completely disagree. But, time will tell. Let’s watch and see, all of us just may be surprised.
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Old 03-02-2025, 12:43 PM   #26
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Thanks for the reminder, almost forgot about the Ukraine/Hunter ties.
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Prediction confirmed.

Admit it - you had to look up what a "Fish" was....and all the rest of it too. You fool no one. I think this is at least the second time that you have had to tell us all that you know what a "Fish" is too. Truly hysterical!

The difference between you and me is that I have never seriously tried to fool anyone. I just tried to keep an ID alive as long as reasonable to mock the hypocrisy and old white man's privilege. I have literally owned you since the first time you came to my attention with your rationalizations and "research."

But enough. One way or the other, you are on my permanent ignore list.

To my homies: All good things come to an end. I close. In more ways than one, perhaps. The severity of my demise remains to be determined.

Enjoy the Club and the denial. JB will be back soon to pretend his hate is as legit as NBT's. Then things will be truly awesome here. No one to fact check or try to point out the gaslighting and No Cancel Culture whatsoever. Just more of MAGA's finest cheerleading.

There ain't nuthin worse than a man who does not know his limits. One that has to continually confirm the validity of his biases by parroting and plagiarizing the thoughts of others who are only looking to take advantage of them.

Thankfully...this IS a hooker board. You are only apologists and volunteer propagandists for Trump (not especially good ones, either). You have no real ability to help him in his madness.

But you also have no real cause for hope with him. He will sacrifice you as easily as he has everyone else.

My one mistake with this site was that early on I assumed that people who had a liberal attitude about things like "sex work" would be more tolerant and empathetic of others from different backgrounds and beliefs. I have been profoundly disappointed.

But then again, some of you will literally fuck anything.
I want to respond to this in a quasi-serious way but with the trigger-happy safety patrol and the male lesbian tattletales operating in lockstep this is the classic whore board boobie trap.

This said, I guess I have to mention something about minerals?

I enjoy the way the term rare earth minerals rolls off the tongue.

Plus I would love to see SUPERTRUMP extort them from that little creep Zelensky.

We'll get them one way or the other, SUPERTRUMP is like a dog with a bone when something valuable gets his juices flowing, we can all agree on this

Thanks men.
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Old 03-02-2025, 01:10 PM   #28
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It seems that the reality of all this is that Trump lost ground on his chance to end the war and look like a hero. For a few reasons:

1. I see it that Vance fucked Trump sideways in that meeting. It didn’t go off the rails until Vance shot his mouth off.

2. Trump wants a Nobel Peace Prize badly….he can’t stand that Obama got one and he has not. If Vance and the pet reporter are not in the room, I bet Trump gets the praise from Zelensky that he wanted and things would have gone fine

3. Trump now has to look at his legacy, as it were…….he needs this Ukraine deal to get that Prize. Vance got in the way by igniting that fight. Watch for Vance to be on probation by the Trump team.

4. Trump also lost ground on keeping the US in the forefront of world politics. What happened is going to strengthen the bond of European nations, in a way that can possibly create a third front of countries aligned against the US…..Russia. China and Europe. Not gonna be easy being isolated from the world in this way.

5. The stock market has been falling ever since Trump took office, a bit at a time. Failing to get Ukraine settled, and creating a third adversary from the Ukraine meeting debacle, will further erode the US Economy as we go forward
https://www.barrons.com/articles/sto...tlook-3a9c1131

My view is that all this came from Vance stupidly opening his mouth. He’s not there, none of the above happens , as Trump would have gotten his praise and the deal would be done.

Watch for Vance to be slowly sidelined, as Trump tried to find a way to get Ukraine settled in a way that makes him looks good.
Lots of good stuff here, and some very good points made. I don’t agree on some…surprise surprise lol. But, some I do agree with you on elg.

1. I agree, Vance should have kept his fucking mouth shut. If anyone should have spoken up, it should have been Secretary of State Rubio.

2. Dunno about whether Trump gives a shit about receiving a Nobel Peace Prize or not, so I guess I have no opinion.

3. Agree, Vance’s ass should already be sitting in a corner…facing the wall if he isn’t already.

4. Disagree. I believe Trump has gained ground in world politics. This has now forced Europe’s hand to shit or get off the pot when it comes to supporting Ukraine…or not. This is happening on their continent, so they now need to step up. Could it create a 3rd front of countries against us? Possibly, but I think it’s highly unlikely.

5. I think watching the daily/weekly movements of the stock market can be a decent argument, hell I’ve used it myself, but having a bit of a change of heart about that. Both sides of the isle have used that argument in their favor and against each other. Don’t recall either one actually being right or accurate with that argument. So, I stand neutral on this one. I do think tho that our future in world economic standings is strong.
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Lots of good stuff here, and some very good points made. I don’t agree on some…surprise surprise lol. But, some I do agree with you on elg.

1. I agree, Vance should have kept his fucking mouth shut. If anyone should have spoken up, it should have been Secretary of State Rubio.

2. Dunno about whether Trump gives a shit about receiving a Nobel Peace Prize or not, so I guess I have no opinion.

3. Agree, Vance’s ass should already be sitting in a corner…facing the wall if he isn’t already.

4. Disagree. I believe Trump has gained ground in world politics. This has now forced Europe’s hand to shit or get off the pot when it comes to supporting Ukraine…or not. This is happening on their continent, so they now need to step up. Could it create a 3rd front of countries against us? Possibly, but I think it’s highly unlikely.

5. I think watching the daily/weekly movements of the stock market can be a decent argument, hell I’ve used it myself, but having a bit of a change of heart about that. Both sides of the isle have used that argument in their favor and against each other. Don’t recall either one actually being right or accurate with that argument. So, I stand neutral on this one. I do think tho that our future in world economic standings is strong.

Trump actually (most likely) had the minerals deal in the palm of his hand…….Vance fucked it up.

Trump has now ceded the Peacemaker role to Starmer. That is going to get Vance even deeper in Trumpworld shit.

https://thehill.com/policy/internati...ds-in-history/
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Trump actually (most likely) had the minerals deal in the palm of his hand…….Vance fucked it up.

Trump has now ceded the Peacemaker role to Starmer. That is going to get Vance even deeper in Trumpworld shit.

https://thehill.com/policy/internati...ds-in-history/
Yup, you’re right, and I agree Vance fucked up. He’s the junior partner and should have kept his pie hole shut. I’ve got 2 brothers…both older. So I’m the youngest of the 3 boys in my family. Whenever I opened my pie hole during a discussion between us and others…let’s say in the “neighborhood”…my oldest brother would back hand me in the jibs with a stern look. After the discussion was over and my lip stopped bleeding, he would tell me to keep my fucking mouth shut, listen & learn. Although, it wasn’t always my oldest brother, it just depended on who was closest and was in reach lol.

It’s going to be interesting to see how Starmer handles this going forward.
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