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Old 04-07-2025, 07:14 PM   #16
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So am I. Clinton wasn't president in 1945.
umm, circa 1991. what say you sir..
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Old 04-10-2025, 11:51 AM   #17
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I'm all for cutting the size of the federal government and moving funding and responsibility to the state and local governments, to the extent it makes sense. But yes, DOGE has moved too fast, and in certain instances, too far.

My biggest concern is health, being the poorly planned cuts to USAID, the FDA, the CDC and NIH. Yeah, undoubtedly the money could be spent more efficiently, and we should make that happen. But what we were spending on those programs was a drop in the bucket. The least we could have done was implement the cuts over a period of years instead of overnight. The way it is now, people will die. The first article below gives you an idea of the magnitude of the problem, and the second zeros in on how it's affecting particular individuals.

https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/th...ith-a-chainsaw

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ts-impact.html

As to privatization, Robert F. Kennedy is effectively doing that to vaccine R&D. And he's trying to make it where it's easier to sue the vaccine makers. Why? Is it because he's stupid? Or is it because one of his main businesses is suing the vaccine manufacturers? Hmmmm, I'm not sure.
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Old 04-10-2025, 12:28 PM   #18
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Robert F Kennedy is not anti-Vax, he is anti-fake Vax.

We learned a good lesson from Covid. Just because Big Pharma says something, and actually gets the Government to implement it, does not make it right.

True vaccines actuall keep a person from getting a particular ailment. Good examples are polio, small pox, mumps, measles, etc. they actually compelled the immune system to produce antibodies to ward off ailments and keep from spreading it.

The so called Covid vaccine did neither. The only final analysis showed that all it MIGHT do is keep you from getting as sick.

The Government even went so far as to say it was better than natural immunity. This was an out right lie. I did not even know I had Covid until I went to a community wide testing. Fact is, I had already had it, and was over it. Even my 75 year old immune system at that time handled it.

Big bucks were made. People lost career jobs because they didn’t succumb to the nonsense.

Thank God we now have someone in charge that understands the difference between a true vaccine and a money making scheme launched by Big Pharma and the Dirt Bag Democrats.
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Old 04-10-2025, 09:58 PM   #19
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Robert F Kennedy is not anti-Vax, he is anti-fake Vax.

We learned a good lesson from Covid. Just because Big Pharma says something, and actually gets the Government to implement it, does not make it right.

True vaccines actuall keep a person from getting a particular ailment. Good examples are polio, small pox, mumps, measles, etc. they actually compelled the immune system to produce antibodies to ward off ailments and keep from spreading it.

The so called Covid vaccine did neither. The only final analysis showed that all it MIGHT do is keep you from getting as sick.

The Government even went so far as to say it was better than natural immunity. This was an out right lie. I did not even know I had Covid until I went to a community wide testing. Fact is, I had already had it, and was over it. Even my 75 year old immune system at that time handled it.

Big bucks were made. People lost career jobs because they didn’t succumb to the nonsense.

Thank God we now have someone in charge that understands the difference between a true vaccine and a money making scheme launched by Big Pharma and the Dirt Bag Democrats.
There's no vaccine that is safe and effective

- Robert F. Kennedy, in a July, 2023 appearance on the Lex Fridman podcast

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/11/sc...effectiveness/

Now does Robert F. Kennedy actually believe that? Does he actually want to privatize R&D for vaccines because he believes they do more harm than good? Because he believes they cause autism?

Or does he want to make a bundle of money after he leaves the HHS by suing vaccine manufacturers? And it's harder to do that if the U.S. government is responsible for the vaccines in the first place?

Hmmm, I'm not sure.

I've had six shots and the one time I got COVID, I had an easier time with it than I do with the common cold. That's because the vaccine supercharged my immune system! I don't get as many colds as I used to either.

Remember, getting the COVID vaccine in record time was one of the three great legacies of the first Trump term. (The other two were cutting the corporate income tax and deregulation.) By funding the development of the vaccine through the NIH and pushing it through the FDA in record time, President Trump saved hundreds of thousands of lives in the USA alone. And our brothers in blue states were able to go back to work earlier than they would have otherwise, so they weren't as big a burden on taxpayers like us.

Could President Trump and others and Pfizer and Moderna have gotten the COVID vaccines to market so quickly if the NIH and FDA had been starved of funds? No way.
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Old 04-11-2025, 06:05 AM   #20
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...is hilarious. Dems being honest?!? What's next? Dems being introspective and self aware?!? Whoooo-Doggies! That's a knee slapper.

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prove me wrong then. this is a guy who wants to dissolve FEMA just like he did the Dept. of Educ. he wants the feds to have zero obligations/responsibilities. if he had his druthers, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security would all be privatized.

of course he can't say that, but that's the real backstory.
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...is hilarious. Dems being honest?!? What's next? Dems being introspective and self aware?!? Whoooo-Doggies! That's a knee slapper.

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