Harvard - Make America Great Again!

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Jacky S

Harvard has turned into a cess pool of anti-American propaganda.
As for excellence. We all got to witness their so called excellence when Harvard President Claudine Gay gave testimony before Congress.
She exemplified the notion of an educated idiot.

Joe Biden could have done a better job.

Jacky, Like I said earlier, you don't want to throw the babies out with the bathwater. According to my new best friend, ChatGPT, a majority of undergraduate degrees at Harvard are in the sciences and engineering. Most of students in those disciplines don't have time to protest anything, they're too busy studying. The two most popular concentrations at Harvard are in economics and computer sciences.

Graduates include Ted Cruz, Tom Cotton, Ben Sasse, Elise Stefanik, Josh Hawley, Peter Thiel, and Dinesh D'Souza. George W. Bush and Mitt Romney went there too, to business and/or law school. Like me, you probably aren't a fan of Bush, or for that matter Romney, but they're certainly pro-America.

Professors at Harvard at one time or another include Niall Ferguson, James Q. Wilson, and a couple of economists, Greg Mankiw and Kenneth Rogoff, all of whom are right of center.

Yeah, it would make sense for the federal government to cut way back on grants to and support for liberal arts programs at universities like Harvard. But the hard sciences, engineering and medicine are a different matter entirely. There's certain basic research that ultimately leads to the advancement of humanity and to greater prosperity that just isn't done in the private sector. And certain research that's more beneficial if it's in the public domain, instead of being proprietary to a single company.

Research at Harvard led to the elimination of smallpox, and development of gene editing tools like CRISPR that in turn provided revolutionary ways of treating disease. And really neat ways to modify viruses in the lab! Harvard researchers played a big part in sequencing the human genome. Blood banks were made possible by research at Harvard. Work by a Harvard chemist was instrumental in development of nanoscale electronics. The oral polio vaccine was developed at Harvard. Work at Harvard led to the development of a number of pharmaceuticals. ChatGPT goes on and on. A lot of good research has come out of the place.

I seriously doubt there are many foreign students at Harvard engaged in antisemitic behavior. If so, fine, kick them out of the USA.

As to the U.S. students at Harvard and other places protesting the deaths of Palestinian civilians in Gaza, they've got a point. The IDF have killed several times more civilians in Gaza than Russia has in the Ukraine, despite Gaza having about 1/20th of the population.

[Jacky S]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

At Harvard?

Maybe we should ban all colleges, eh?

Of course not.
But what should happen is for the Government to get out of the Student Loan business.

The Universities should establish, and guarantee their own programs for students that wish to attend their University.

[VitaMan]

You can go through the list of high ranking government officials over the years, and plenty (almost all...?) have degrees from Ivy League universities.


Whether it is true or not, people are considered better qualified if they obtained a degree there. It became more of a "must have" rather than the education actually received......which is just as good or better at other colleges and universities.


No need to bash Noem or where she attended school. That is ridiculous.


Fortunately or unfortunately, a large number of advances have been made by research done at some of these schools, and funded by the federal government.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

Whether it is true or not, people are considered better qualified if they obtained a degree there. It became more of a "must have" rather than the education actually received......which is just as good or better at other colleges and universities.


No need to bash Noem or where she attended school. That is ridiculous.

Which colleges provide better educations in liberal arts, sciences and engineering than Harvard? I don't believe anyone brought up Noem's schooling. And on this issue, she deserves bashing.

[VitaMan]

You can debate that all you want. There are many other terrific state schools and private schools.


You don't need a degree from Harvard to be successful. Just look at the providers here.....do you think they had to go to Harvard ? It is only the mandarin orange thing that keeps requiring Ivy League degrees.


The entire value of the tuition cost of these universities has come into question. With AI and other tools you can educate yourself at little or no cost.


On Noem, thank you for your opinion. Don't you live outside of the USA ?

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Jacky, Like I said earlier, you don't want to throw the babies out with the bathwater. According to my new best friend, ChatGPT, a majority of undergraduate degrees at Harvard are in the sciences and engineering. Most of students in those disciplines don't have time to protest anything, they're too busy studying. The two most popular concentrations at Harvard are in economics and computer sciences.

Graduates include Ted Cruz, Tom Cotton, Ben Sasse, Elise Stefanik, Josh Hawley, Peter Thiel, and Dinesh D'Souza. George W. Bush and Mitt Romney went there too, to business and/or law school. Like me, you probably aren't a fan of Bush, or for that matter Romney, but they're certainly pro-America.

Professors at Harvard at one time or another include Niall Ferguson, James Q. Wilson, and a couple of economists, Greg Mankiw and Kenneth Rogoff, all of whom are right of center.

This is what Google AI came back with"

While Woody Allen has famously quoted, "80% of success is showing up", there's no record of him specifically referencing Henry Kissinger's time teaching at Harvard. Kissinger did, in fact, teach at Harvard, becoming a professor of government and earning a reputation as an expert on nuclear weapons and foreign policy. He even earned international attention for his work in these fields.

This must be bullshit, though.

I am 99.9% sure Woody Allen derided Harvard in one of his movies.

"Hey, Henry Kissinger taught there."

The MAGA crowd need to invent a boogeyman. Harvard is not Yale.

[eccieuser9500]

Germany and Hong Kong Look to Lure Students Exiled From Harvard

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-checkout=true

Universities in Asia and Europe are hoping Donald Trump’s latest attack on Harvard will hand them a decisive advantage as they try to reverse a decades-old brain drain of talent to the US, with Germany going so far as to suggest the school establish an outpost within its borders.

Federal culture minister Wolfram Weimer told Bloomberg that Harvard could establish an “exile campus” in the country. “To students from Harvard and other American universities, I say: You are more than welcome in Germany,” Weimer said.

That move came shortly after the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology also issued an invitation, saying that any international student enrolled at Harvard would be welcome to continue their studies in Hong Kong.

Such overtures have already been ramping up since Trump took office, during which time he has slashed billions in funding for science, public health and education, laid off tens of thousands of federal employees who work in these fields, and shrunk grants for scientific research to the lowest levels in decades.

[TechPapi]

MAGAts. The absolute least likely group to go to college, must less Harvard. It's all just jealousy and victim-hood.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

Germany and Hong Kong Look to Lure Students Exiled From Harvard

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-checkout=true

Please do not confuse institutions of higher learning in Cambridge, Massachusetts Eccieuser. Chomsky worked at MIT, not Harvard.

Presumably the Trump administration won’t kick the foreign students out of MIT and entirely stop sending it grant money. But with the bunch in Washington who knows. Are they Maoists? (Chairman Mao joyed in sending scientists to the fields so they could learn valuable skills like cotton gathering and hoeing.)

Anyway, it sounds like the Hong Kong and German unis are ahead of the pack, in recruiting the best and the brightest who are being kicked out of Harvard.

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Are they Maoists? (Chairman Mao joyed in sending scientists to the fields so they could learn valuable skills like cotton gathering and hoeing.)

Yes cutting off taxpayer funds (thats my money too) to an institution that practices racist admission policies and has a 53 Billion.. yes, BILLION dollar endowment is the same as sending academics to a collective farm in Tibet to cut trees.

Oh the humanity!

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Please do not confuse institutions of higher learning in Cambridge, Massachusetts Eccieuser. Chomsky worked at MIT, not Harvard.

Presumably the Trump administration won’t kick the foreign students out of MIT and entirely stop sending it grant money. But with the bunch in Washington who knows. Are they Maoists? (Chairman Mao joyed in sending scientists to the fields so they could learn valuable skills like cotton gathering and hoeing.)

Anyway, it sounds like the Hong Kong and German unis are ahead of the pack, in recruiting the best and the brightest who are being kicked out of Harvard.

If you seriously thought I didn't know He was a professor at MIT, not Harvard, I don't know whether it's you, or it was me. So . . . slide.

If you did, you know how to make me go nuclear. In a nice way to slap some.

Okay. Presumably he's not creating enemies out of adversaries in their youth. Let's presume.

Originally Posted by texassapper

Yes cutting off taxpayer funds (thats my money too) to an institution that practices racist admission policies and has a 53 Billion.. yes, BILLION dollar endowment is the same as sending academics to a collective farm in Tibet to cut trees.

Oh the humanity!

Oh the stupidity!


Vez, Chiquito! They eat it all up. They like to be lied to. Helps them sleep.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by eccieuser9500

If you seriously thought I didn't know He was a professor at MIT, not Harvard, I don't know whether it's you, or it was me. So . . . slide.

If you did, you know how to make me go nuclear. In a nice way to slap some.

Okay. Presumably he's not creating enemies out of adversaries in their youth. Let's presume.



Oh the stupidity!


Vez, Chiquito! They eat it all up. They like to be lied to. Helps them sleep.

I knew you knew amiguito. I was trying to shift the topic slightly to MIT in a subtle way, so that Biomed would not smite down his hand upon me! No offense meant, and I’m sure none was taken.

Cher was pretty damn hot in her day, for a flat chested broad.

[eccieuser9500]

None was.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by texassapper

Yes cutting off taxpayer funds (thats my money too) to an institution that...has a 53 Billion.. yes, BILLION dollar endowment is the same as sending academics to a collective farm in Tibet to cut trees.

Oh the humanity!

Touche

[Lantern2814]

Harvard. A bunch of racist, Anti-Semitic, ignorant people. Quit allowing Jewish students to get attacked, stop allowing the leftist cowards to wear masks to avoid accountability, stop being racist in admissions (proven by the courts). So of course the usual suspects cry when these people get held to account. No wonder Ivy League degrees are more and more worthless by the day.