Times change.

[Devo]

So Trump is poised to make a significant change in policy.

Agricultural laws hinder the production of crops in America.

It's far past time to unleash American agriculture and feed even more of the world.

Why use HFCS when natural sugar is available?

[onawbtngr546]

We have produce rotting in the fields because we don't have any brown people to work below minimum wage to pick them, and because white people don't want to work for basically no salary to work in the fields. How are we going to sell produce to other countries?


We are deregulating the USDA (meat and dairy) so that it's going to be less safe than it ever was. How are we going to sell meat to other countries?


We are putting huge tariffs on other countries, in order to deincentivize trade with them. How are we going to convince these countries to buy our soybeans?


Hey, my friend just shot himself in the face and now he's bleeding out. Where should he shoot himself next to keep all the blood inside?

[HDGristle]

I'm all for using more cane sugar.

A lot of jobs are dependent on corn, though. This is a potential landmine he needs to identify and disarm. I feel like he's just goimg to step on it and be left with stubs where he used to have cankles.

https://www.dtnpf.com/agriculture/we...ddresses-sugar

[Devo]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

I'm all for using more cane sugar.

A lot of jobs are dependent on corn, though. This is a potential landmine he needs to identify and disarm. I feel like he's just goimg to step on it and be left with stubs where he used to have cankles.

https://www.dtnpf.com/agriculture/we...ddresses-sugar

We are killing ourselves ingesting that HFCS shit, we are destroying anything that burns gas with Ethanol, and thats at 10 percent now, and some states already use 20 percent, fuck that.

If it reduces the cost of Doritos and makes Pepsi more expensive, oh well.

For years I bought San Pellagreno fruit beverages because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and had far fewer grams of sugar compared to American fruit beverages, which use almost zero fruit juice.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Devo

We are killing ourselves ingesting that HFCS shit, we are destroying anything that burns gas with Ethanol, and thats at 10 percent now, and some states already use 20 percent, fuck that.

If it reduces the cost of Doritos and makes Pepsi more expensive, oh well.

For years I bought San Pellagreno fruit beverages because they used sugar instead of HFCS, and had far fewer grams of sugar compared to American fruit beverages, which use almost zero fruit juice.

The United States subsidization of the corn industry is a perversion of the free market. I don’t particularly have a problem with HFCS but I do think that our agricultural sector is dominated in the private sector as well as in Washington by giant corporate interests. Only time will tell if new regulations will be good or bad for the public.

[HDGristle]

https://www.mackinac.org/blog/2025/s...-healthy-again

A good read

[Devo]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

The United States subsidization of the corn industry is a perversion of the free market. I don’t particularly have a problem with HFCS but I do think that our agricultural sector is dominated in the private sector as well as in Washington by giant corporate interests. Only time will tell if new regulations will be good or bad for the public.

I attribute the rise in diabetes in part to how HFCS hits your body hard and uses more insulin, which makes those with pre diabetic tendencies to become insulin resistant.

You need to read lables, Heinz Ketchup lists HFCS and corn syrum into two categories, or there would me more corn syrup than tomatoes and it would be the first ingredient.

Bad optics.

RFK Jr. is absolutely correct about changing our diets, especially for our yutes.

As for big corn, time to turn corn back into food, not use it as fuel or a lousy cheap sweetener that destroys our bodies.

WE should be using it to feed cattle at real market prices, same as Peanut Butter and peanut products which suffer the same issues.

It in part made Jimmy Carter rich, because he owned lots of black farmers peanuts farms as they sold them off, and he got the high subsidized pricing.

I think peanuts on the ubsudized sales lots go for about 20 percent of the cost vs. subsidized.

Peanut butter should be cheap.

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by Devo

RFK Jr. is absolutely correct about changing our diets, especially for our yutes.

As for big corn, time to turn corn back into food, not use it as fuel or a lousy cheap sweetener that destroys our bodies.

WE should be using it to feed cattle at real market prices, same as Peanut Butter and peanut products which suffer the same issues.

It in part made Jimmy Carter rich, because he owned lots of black farmers peanuts farms as they sold them off, and he got the high subsidized pricing.

I think peanuts on the ubsudized sales lots go for about 20 percent of the cost vs. subsidized.

Peanut butter should be cheap.

Do you know what crops are subsidized so farmers don't go belly up, or sell of farm land to the highest bidder??

• Corn
• Soybeans
• Wheat
• Cotton
• Rice
• Sorghum
• Peanuts
• Oats
• Barley
• Alfalfa
• Canola
• Dry peas
• Lentils
• Flaxseed
• Sugar beets
• Sunflowers

And other subsidies and takeaways:
Corn was the most-subsidized crop in 2024, receiving $3.2 billion in federal subsidies, followed by soybeans with $1.9 billion.

While a large portion of subsidies goes to commodity crops, other agricultural sectors, such as livestock and dairy, also receive significant support through various programs.

Subsidies can take various forms, including direct payments, crop insurance subsidies, and conservation program payments.

The Federal Crop Insurance Program is a major farm subsidy program, costing about $10 billion a year and covering around 130 crops, with corn, soybeans, wheat, and cotton being the main beneficiaries.

A GIANT one is for dairy farmers- Milk!!

How much does the US subsidize dairy farmers?
U.S. taxpayers shell out roughly $22.2 billion annually in dairy subsidies. That's about $173 per household—and you're still paying for milk at the store!

Relative to RFK or Corn Syrup- that guy is NOT the one to be in charge of a damned thing. He's in way over his head. Corn Syrup is a desireable product to to the attribute that it's easily stored, and has a long shelf life, which unlike sugar, it' doesn't get easily infested or mold or change textures etc. It's a super sweetner but to you point Devo- hella bad for humans to eat.

the necessary evil of corn farmers is that we will need them and their fields and crops so we keep paying them to produce more producct than we need, - sort of paying them to keep killing us with that shit. If RFK was really gonna make an impact, he'd initiate a study that's aim is to outlaw Corn Syrup sweetners in human food; or remove the subsidy. But that's a catch 22 if farmers cannot make money on those crops- they will either plant another one, or sell the land, which is something the government doesn't want them to do.