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Old Yesterday, 02:02 AM   #1
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here's the deal. Ukraine can take it or else good luck.

Putin Offers Peace in Exchange for Control of Donbas

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraha...onbas-n2661946


President Donald Trump has voiced support for a peace proposal reportedly offered by Russian President Vladimir Putin. The deal would see Russia take complete control of the Donbas region in exchange for freezing the fighting along the rest of the front lines — a move that could halt years of violence and bring much-needed stability to the area.


According to a European diplomat, Trump’s Friday meeting with Putin in Alaska focused on serious negotiations, with the Russian President reaffirming his interest in securing the Luhansk and Donetsk regions, the central regions of the contested Donbas area. In return, Moscow would halt its advance in other places such as Zaporizhzhia and Kherson.


However, Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky has so far resisted any proposal that involves ceding Ukrainian territory, notably the remaining 30 percent of Donetsk still under Kyiv’s control. Trump has taken a pragmatic stance. After follow-up conversations with Zelensky and European leaders, President Trump emphasized on social media Saturday that the goal should be a full peace agreement, not just another temporary ceasefire that risks falling apart.



“It was determined by all that the best way to end the horrific war between Russia and Ukraine is to go directly to a Peace Agreement,” Trump wrote, “which would end the war, and not a mere Ceasefire Agreement, which often times do not hold up.”


His comments represent a shift from President Trump, who had previously signaled openness to a ceasefire. His focus now appears to be on securing a durable peace that protects lives and restores some measure of order in Eastern Europe/


Meanwhile, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz noted that President Trump conveyed Russia’s willingness to negotiate based on current battle lines rather than pre-war administrative borders.


Although European leaders have stopped short of endorsing Trump’s direction outright, they issued a statement thanking him for his efforts to bring the war to an end.


Putin called his meeting in Alaska with President Trump a “very frank” meeting and reiterated his interest in ending the conflict through diplomacy. Speaking from the Kremlin, he acknowledged the Trump team's focus on ending hostilities, saying, “We would like to move to resolving all issues by peaceful means.”


Looking forward, Zelensky is set to meet with Trump at the White House on Monday, a meeting that could prove pivotal in determining whether peace is on the horizon.
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here's the deal. Ukraine can take it or else good luck.

Putin Offers Peace in Exchange for Control of Donbas

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraha...onbas-n2661946


President Donald Trump has voiced support for a peace proposal reportedly offered by Russian President Vladimir Putin. The deal would see Russia take complete control of the Donbas region in exchange for freezing the fighting along the rest of the front lines — a move that could halt years of violence and bring much-needed stability to the area.


According to a European diplomat, Trump’s Friday meeting with Putin in Alaska focused on serious negotiations, with the Russian President reaffirming his interest in securing the Luhansk and Donetsk regions, the central regions of the contested Donbas area. In return, Moscow would halt its advance in other places such as Zaporizhzhia and Kherson.


However, Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky has so far resisted any proposal that involves ceding Ukrainian territory, notably the remaining 30 percent of Donetsk still under Kyiv’s control. Trump has taken a pragmatic stance. After follow-up conversations with Zelensky and European leaders, President Trump emphasized on social media Saturday that the goal should be a full peace agreement, not just another temporary ceasefire that risks falling apart.



“It was determined by all that the best way to end the horrific war between Russia and Ukraine is to go directly to a Peace Agreement,” Trump wrote, “which would end the war, and not a mere Ceasefire Agreement, which often times do not hold up.”


His comments represent a shift from President Trump, who had previously signaled openness to a ceasefire. His focus now appears to be on securing a durable peace that protects lives and restores some measure of order in Eastern Europe/


Meanwhile, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz noted that President Trump conveyed Russia’s willingness to negotiate based on current battle lines rather than pre-war administrative borders.


Although European leaders have stopped short of endorsing Trump’s direction outright, they issued a statement thanking him for his efforts to bring the war to an end.


Putin called his meeting in Alaska with President Trump a “very frank” meeting and reiterated his interest in ending the conflict through diplomacy. Speaking from the Kremlin, he acknowledged the Trump team's focus on ending hostilities, saying, “We would like to move to resolving all issues by peaceful means.”


Looking forward, Zelensky is set to meet with Trump at the White House on Monday, a meeting that could prove pivotal in determining whether peace is on the horizon.

Your last names not Chamberlain is it?
Its no surprise that somebody that been voting for a dictator should want to appease another!
Look up 1938 and the Czechoslovakia Sudetenland and Neville Chamberlains appeasement to Hitler!
Trump will aways supplicate to Vladi Daddy!
And force others to do so if it benefits himself.
For instance having American soldiers on their knees to roll out a red carpet for a murderous dictator!
WTF!

Let's get back to the Epstine files shall we?
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Old Yesterday, 06:24 AM   #3
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here's the deal. Ukraine can take it or else good luck.
Or Putin can fuck off and get nothing. He can fuck off and be glad he's not in the gulag getting ass raped for eternity.

Putin was always the invader, and had no rights to a single inch of Ukrainian territory. Who the fuck is trump to tell Zelenskyy he has to give Putin anything?

Oh yeah, trump is Putin's little bitch. My bad. I forgot that part.
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Old Yesterday, 06:28 AM   #4
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This was always how it was going to end. All that blood and treasure was thrown into a black hole when this inevitable outcome was known to any thinking person years ago.
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Old Yesterday, 06:33 AM   #5
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Putin should at least acknowledge the fact that he's benefitting from having a treasonous clown in the White House doing his dirty work for him.

trump gave a war criminal safe haven in our country and now he's trying to give him land from another man's country that he never had any rights to.

Pretty sweet deal for Vladdy daddy. Has he thanked trump even once? Fucking ingrate.
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Arnold and many many many many many others didn't think it was that great of a deal.

https://youtu.be/vGSntI8-OLo?si=NK9PmTtouyCWuHgI
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Or Putin can fuck off and get nothing. He can fuck off and be glad he's not in the gulag getting ass raped for eternity.

Putin was always the invader, and had no rights to a single inch of Ukrainian territory. Who the fuck is trump to tell Zelenskyy he has to give Putin anything?

Oh yeah, trump is Putin's little bitch. My bad. I forgot that part.
I agree, lets let the war continue forever, and let thousands of more innocents die over land.

Very good idea, continous war like 1984.

Trump should just walk away and do nothing.
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Where are the thousands of Ukrainian children that were kidnapped.
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I agree, lets let the war continue forever, and let thousands of more innocents die over land.

Very good idea, continous war like 1984.

Trump should just walk away and do nothing.
The US is known to be a supporter of freedom and self governing countries who choose a democratic or similar political stance - I doubt that we would by our nature- allow a continuance of the current level of war in the region continue -(perhaps you were just being sarcastic)

In any event- thinking that this will end with a sudden case of either acknowledgment of the US as a good will ambassador or a 3rd party mitigator is likely just as unlikely. Putin stated that he would NOT accept the outcomes that any third party decided to forge and submit- He's got this in his mind working out a certain way. Perhaps the economy of mother Russia is so bad that it's literally the only thing that is driving income production by job creation via war machine. Stopping it might throw his country into a Rapid recession as well.

What we cannot do- is offer the level of support to Ukraine with only either small munitions, money or non-air strategic offensive weapons, or literally it will be the slow grind of death for Ukraine. Beating up a dictator should appeal to any guy who's really a tough guy, but Trump has proven time and again, that's he's really only interested in admiring Putin and denigrating Zelensky. "You don't have the cards". (cept the ones we keep giving him)- Trump is the last guy anyone needs as a friend. Just ask Epstein or Michael Cohen. You're a useful idiot to him till he can fuck you over, and put some coins in his pocket in the meantime.

I'm sure Trump or his little minions have figured out a way to make money on Ukraines bad spot here, or on Vlad P's, terms on retaking of land that the Russians havent' even taken via battlefield.

That's where Trumps new hotel and golf club will be located- Trump Dompas. Where Rushkies go to play 18, while they get their crypto laundered on the back 9. Fucking Feckless Fuckery Fuckos'.
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That’s hysterical. The people just ousted an administration that was flagrantly, unabashedly on the take in both Ukraine and Russia but Trump is the problem. TDSers truly live in Bizarro World.
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That’s hysterical. The people just ousted an administration that was flagrantly, unabashedly on the take in both Ukraine and Russia but Trump is the problem. TDSers truly live in Bizarro World.
can you point to any convictions or charges associated to the 46 th ADMINISTRATION relating to Russia or Ukraine? NAHH. Hunter wasn't part of the administration btw- but did get his knuckles tapped for taxes.

All the while- You got Cornpone -Comer and the Devin Nunez expedition team and others who said it was there....but there was no there-there. Funny- musta been all the alternative facts popping up.

However - Mueller found lots of Russia interrogatories and connections - and charges with the 45 admin. Russia seems to be implicated in all things Trump these days and 4 yrs plus prior. Somethings- NEVER change. the TFS syndrome for enablers knows no limits. In conservative views- the tariffs are good for us- cause we need to pay more.

Comrade- Daddy Vlad approves of your prior post.
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You should change your handle to GullibleAF.
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LOL if you say so- perhaps yours will be- Ihear_alternative_facts.

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Arnold and many many many many many others didn't think it was that great of a deal.

https://youtu.be/vGSntI8-OLo?si=NK9PmTtouyCWuHgI



you do know that video is 7 years old, right? has nothing to do with Ukraine


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Or Putin can fuck off and get nothing. He can fuck off and be glad he's not in the gulag getting ass raped for eternity.

Putin was always the invader, and had no rights to a single inch of Ukrainian territory. Who the fuck is trump to tell Zelenskyy he has to give Putin anything?

Oh yeah, trump is Putin's little bitch. My bad. I forgot that part.



Putin agreed to let U.S., Europe offer NATO-style protections for Ukraine, Trump envoy says

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine...ty-guarantees/


is this Russki propaganda? probably not.





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can you point to any convictions or charges associated to the 46 th ADMINISTRATION relating to Russia or Ukraine? NAHH. Hunter wasn't part of the administration btw- but did get his knuckles tapped for taxes.

All the while- You got Cornpone -Comer and the Devin Nunez expedition team and others who said it was there....but there was no there-there. Funny- musta been all the alternative facts popping up.

However - Mueller found lots of Russia interrogatories and connections - and charges with the 45 admin. Russia seems to be implicated in all things Trump these days and 4 yrs plus prior. Somethings- NEVER change. the TFS syndrome for enablers knows no limits. In conservative views- the tariffs are good for us- cause we need to pay more.

Comrade- Daddy Vlad approves of your prior post.



Mueller had nothing except fake news from Yahoo and the NYT leaked by Comey.



Released FBI docs reveal Comey allegedly used media mole to plant info at New York Times for Russian collusion investigation

https://www.theblaze.com/news/comey-...ate-classified
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Amazes me what the Trump worshippers take is on this. Your worshipped hero tells you that a sovereign nation should allow a dictator to take some of their land. In Europe!!
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