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Old 09-11-2025, 04:56 PM   #106
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I did. It's gruesome and I've seen some pretty graphic things. It seems like the shooter was fairly close based on the impact and gunshot sound. But I had a difficult time seeing the direction from the way Kirk moves post being hit. It looks like the initial impact may have been on his right side or from the front since he only moves slightly to his left. The bullet did tremendous damage to soft tissue. If you're squeamish don't look at the unedited version. A very large loss of blood from his neck area. It makes me sad to see life snuffed out in a snap of the finger. Pretty sure he was out upon impact.
I study the effects of firearm wounds and the damage the projectile does or lack of damage depending.

It began when I first started to hunt, for ethical reasons, and it continued as the technology always is changing.

Any rifle cartridge would have killed him where he was shot, even a 22.

I am by no means a trained sniper, but anyone with experience at all could have made that shot.

Honestly, I could have used a flintlock rifle.

Point being, a determined fool could easily do it again.

And likely will.
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Old 09-11-2025, 05:10 PM   #107
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The shot was a miss, a foot off from where a trained sniper aims. A below average military trained shooter could’ve have hit center mass blindfolded from that distance. This was an amateur. From the looks of him in the pic the fbi put out he’d have about 0% chance of getting through BCT, skinny little fraction of a man.
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Old 09-11-2025, 05:24 PM   #108
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If he was hit in the throat, while starting to talk about transgender mass shootings, silenced by a bullet from a casing with a pro-trans message... that's the kind of thing one might say you could only be the work of fiction as part of some epic tragedy

Which is, again, where the supreme irony of the situation comes into play.

Toss in his prior comments about accepting gun deaths in exchange for the second amendment to be protected, and right after Trump wanted to look into removing those protections from transgender citizens, and you have man known for his outspoken voice and disdain for transgender people being silenced and the poetic irony is even thicker.

Shit rarely lines up this way this easily Something seems amiss.
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Old 09-11-2025, 05:33 PM   #109
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If he was hit in the throat, while starting to talk about transgender mass shootings, silenced by a bullet from a casing with a pro-trans message... that's the kind of thing one might say you could only be the work of fiction as part of some epic tragedy

Which is, again, where the supreme irony of the situation comes into play.

Toss in his prior comments about accepting gun deaths in exchange for the second amendment to be protected, and right after Trump wanted to look into removing those protections from transgender citizens, and you have man known for his outspoken voice and disdain for transgender people being silenced and the poetic irony is even thicker.

Shit rarely lines up this way this easily Something seems amiss.
Or it worked entirely as planned.

If this a trans or gay shooter I am changing my mind on whether they should be treated as mentally ill, when it comes to purchasing dangerous weapons.

Someone stated the last 8 mass shootings were all by trans shooters.
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Old 09-11-2025, 05:36 PM   #110
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There is no irony when a mentally ill human kills someone, its a preventable tragedy.
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Oh, he was discussing mass shooters not about Trans when he was shot.
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Old 09-11-2025, 07:07 PM   #112
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Wow. We live in a bizzaro comic strip. MAGA surprised that there was no gun control at an event where someone died from a shooter. HMMM WOW ORLY?
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If he was hit in the throat, while starting to talk about transgender mass shootings, silenced by a bullet from a casing with a pro-trans message... that's the kind of thing one might say you could only be the work of fiction as part of some epic tragedy

Which is, again, where the supreme irony of the situation comes into play.

Toss in his prior comments about accepting gun deaths in exchange for the second amendment to be protected, and right after Trump wanted to look into removing those protections from transgender citizens, and you have man known for his outspoken voice and disdain for transgender people being silenced and the poetic irony is even thicker.

Shit rarely lines up this way this easily Something seems amiss.



what's amiss is your conjecture about the issue and the reason why.
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Old 09-11-2025, 07:23 PM   #114
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Wow. We live in a bizzaro comic strip. MAGA surprised that there was no gun control at an event where someone died from a shooter. HMMM WOW ORLY?
I dont understand that, if Im going to see a public figure, I'd expect to be checked for weapons.

EVERY gun owner knows that.

It's one reason I'd likely avoid places where I have to disarm.
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Wow. We live in a bizzaro comic strip. MAGA surprised that there was no gun control at an event where someone died from a shooter. HMMM WOW ORLY?



you do know the shooter was on a rooftop and not in the crowd yes??
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what's amiss is your conjecture about the issue and the reason why.
Mebbe
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Old 09-11-2025, 08:19 PM   #117
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you do know the shooter was on a rooftop and not in the crowd yes??
On a campus that permits concealed carry
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If he was hit in the throat, while starting to talk about transgender mass shootings, silenced by a bullet from a casing with a pro-trans message... that's the kind of thing one might say you could only be the work of fiction as part of some epic tragedy

Which is, again, where the supreme irony of the situation comes into play.

Toss in his prior comments about accepting gun deaths in exchange for the second amendment to be protected, and right after Trump wanted to look into removing those protections from transgender citizens, and you have man known for his outspoken voice and disdain for transgender people being silenced and the poetic irony is even thicker.

Shit rarely lines up this way this easily Something seems amiss.
This was not a case of a nihilistic suicidal mass killer. This was planned and executed well enough for the shooter to get away. HDGristle is right. Something seems amiss.
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This was not a case of a nihilistic suicidal mass killer. This was planned and executed well enough for the shooter to get away. HDGristle is right. Something seems amiss.



what is amiss about it? are you and HDG saying this is a planned right wing assassination?


what's amiss is that liberals will not accept that it's the radical fringe of their party who incite and commit these acts of violence
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what is amiss about it? are you and HDG saying this is a planned right wing assassination?


what's amiss is that liberals will not accept that it's the radical fringe of their party who incite and commit these acts of violence
I don’t know the motivation of the assassin. For all I know the hit was paid for and the ant-fascist and transgender messages are there just to mislead the investigation.

My point is unless they catch the killer we may never know the truth. Maybe Kirk was boning some guys wife and this is an attempt at revenge by the husband or someone has a life insurance policy they want to collect on. Jealousy and greed are classic motivations for murder. Why don’t we let the investigation continue for a while before we start speculating.
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