Can utilizing escorts kill the will to even try to pursue a woman the traditional way?

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Originally Posted by ICU 812

A cynical but pragmatic view on sex with Providers . . .and the Hobby world:

Look at the Hobbyest-Provider "relationship" as a transaction, Furthermore, you are not paying her to have sex with you, so much as you are paying her to go away after you do have sex.

She will not expect you to call her the next day or to send her flowers . . .or even to remember her name.

If you are already in a real world relationship with a non-provider". the Hobby World is a place to have some on the side during a rough patch without the complications of "cheating" with her sister, roommate or best friend.

That’s perfect. My partner and I like adding a female once in awhile. She’s also ok with me seeing escorts . If we were no longer together I’d have to find someone that is like her. I know I’m lucky. If it came down to it and we were no longer together. I’d either find someone like her or just remain single and see escorts. I don’t think I could do a monogamous relationship.

[sand247]

Originally Posted by AdventurousMouse

I used to get free sex with relative ease. In the past decade, however, I've only had sex I didn't pay for once.

While there are a number of reasons I don't get free sex with as much ease as I used to, I'd venture to say one big reason is the sheer convenience of the escort game (being able to get guaranteed sex any time, provided I'm willing to pay)

After getting used to the convenience of utilizing escorts, it's hard to justify going back to the old way (when I pursued sex solely for free)

I'd wager that this changes depending on your current point in life;

18-25 - not so much, young and still looking for that forever girl for most guys. An escort won't kill their will to pursue a woman.

25-35 - getting there, been through a few bad relationships where they got cheated on and used anyway, makes the appeal of an escort much more. But still won't completely kill the desire for a traditional relationship.

35-45 - probaly does, they're divorced or just completely done with the bullshit of dating, the expense is too much. And if they know the escort world it's a better fit, pussy on demand, no drama, no BS. If they're lucky they find a good provider and maker her the go to girl. They'll chase free pussy, but as it's been said, pussy ain't free, ever.

45+ - We don't have the desire to date, if we're in this world, it's for a reason. That will to pursue died years ago and now it's just non complicated sex.

[AdventurousMouse]

Originally Posted by sand247

I'd wager that this changes depending on your current point in life;

18-25 - not so much, young and still looking for that forever girl for most guys. An escort won't kill their will to pursue a woman.

25-35 - getting there, been through a few bad relationships where they got cheated on and used anyway, makes the appeal of an escort much more. But still won't completely kill the desire for a traditional relationship.

35-45 - probaly does, they're divorced or just completely done with the bullshit of dating, the expense is too much. And if they know the escort world it's a better fit, pussy on demand, no drama, no BS. If they're lucky they find a good provider and maker her the go to girl. They'll chase free pussy, but as it's been said, pussy ain't free, ever.

45+ - We don't have the desire to date, if we're in this world, it's for a reason. That will to pursue died years ago and now it's just non complicated sex.

I was in the 18-25 range (23) when I got my first escort. My first escort was meant to take the edge off (and clear my mind) after a 2 and a half year dry spell.

After getting that first escort, I ended up getting 2 free partners within the next few months. Clearing my mind with that escort made me less desperate (which probably explains why I got 2 free partners shortly after that first escort)

In other words, I agree with your claim that an escort won't kill the will of a super young guy.

As time went on, however, my will to pursue a free woman got smaller and smaller. I'm currently 34.

[AdventurousMouse]

That being said, once I got to be over 30, something changed in me.

It finally hit me that I'm not getting any younger. I've ended up developing somewhat of a desire to get a (what my counselors have referred to as) non-transactional partner.

But at the same time, with how easily I can get escort cooch, I'm not as motivated to get a free partner as my 20 year old self was (at 20, I couldn't afford escorts...I had no choice but to go the free route)

[Ultimate Jessica]

Originally Posted by sand247

I'd wager that this changes depending on your current point in life;

18-25 - not so much, young and still looking for that forever girl for most guys. An escort won't kill their will to pursue a woman.

25-35 - getting there, been through a few bad relationships where they got cheated on and used anyway, makes the appeal of an escort much more. But still won't completely kill the desire for a traditional relationship.
I have actually found myself more connected with gentlemen in the hobby than I did in the what I call the civilian world..
I worked, was married for over for 10 years kids of during that time and continued to stay in my marriage longer than I should have because of my kids as we some of us do until we just don’t feel appreciated anymore for everything we bring to the table man or woman. It feels good to feel appreciated and wanted and the hobby can be so rewarding depending on what you are in the hobby for IMO of course.



35-45 - probaly does, they're divorced or just completely done with the bullshit of dating, the expense is too much. And if they know the escort world it's a better fit, pussy on demand, no drama, no BS. If they're lucky they find a good provider and maker her the go to girl. They'll chase free pussy, but as it's been said, pussy ain't free, ever.

45+ - We don't have the desire to date, if we're in this world, it's for a reason. That will to pursue died years ago and now it's just non complicated sex.

Damn this is broken down very well! As an Escort even I can relate. It shouldn’t be so damn hard to be in a relationship but it can be soooo emotionally draining!! Those of us who live in the real world understand this! We all juggle so much starting around 30 sometimes other start earlier. Spouse, Work, spouse, work, spouse, kids, spouse, work, spouse kids..REPEAT!! We get LOST and forget to take care of ourselves emotionally, physically and mentally!! The hobby is my therapy!! I absolutely love it when I can break away for some Me(Hobby) time! It isn’t as stressful as playing a round of golf either..lol!

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I think you hit it on the head with your thought process Sand247

[AdventurousMouse]

Originally Posted by Ultimate Jessica

Damn this is broken down very well! As an Escort even I can relate. It shouldn’t be so damn hard to be in a relationship but it can be soooo emotionally draining!! Those of us who live in the real world understand this! We all juggle so much starting around 30 sometimes other start earlier. Spouse, Work, spouse, work, spouse, kids, spouse, work, spouse kids..REPEAT!! We get LOST and forget to take care of ourselves emotionally, physically and mentally!! The hobby is my therapy!! I absolutely love it when I can break away for some Me(Hobby) time! It isn’t as stressful as playing a round of golf either..lol!

I've had escorts tell me they became escorts because they get all the sex they want, they get paid for having sex, and they don't have to deal with the hassle of maintaining a relationship.

They view all of that as a win-win.

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Originally Posted by AdventurousMouse

I used to get free sex with relative ease. In the past decade, however, I've only had sex I didn't pay for once.

While there are a number of reasons I don't get free sex with as much ease as I used to, I'd venture to say one big reason is the sheer convenience of the escort game (being able to get guaranteed sex any time, provided I'm willing to pay)

After getting used to the convenience of utilizing escorts, it's hard to justify going back to the old way (when I pursued sex solely for free)

You pay for it one way or another, women are never free. Utilizing escorts is the easiest, but even those girls are making tough with the drama baggage, poor TCB/BCD skills and rates going through the roof. So in a way, the PPM ladies are trying to be like the civie ones.

[GhostRiderYYZ]

Speaking from the POV of someone who started seeing Escorts in his 20's, have had FWB's on and off all his life and is now 60, I offer this:

FWB relationships take SOME nurturing, you have to keep an eye out for potential partners in this or rekindle a relationship with someone from the past. But it takes SOME effort

A provider takes SCHEDULING. You call & set up an appointment, she gets your screening info if needed, time/place is agreed upon as is the financials etc... time arrives, session happens, everyone is happy.

Even if you have 2-4 FWB's they have lives so arranging time with them is like arranging time with a provider. The time slot you want might be booked by someone else. Or she has plans she cannot get out of.

But anything worthwhile takes time & effort.

[Ultimate Jessica]

Originally Posted by AdventurousMouse

I've had escorts tell me they became escorts because they get all the sex they want, they get paid for having sex, and they don't have to deal with the hassle of maintaining a relationship.

They view all of that as a win-win.

I guess it depends on what providers you have been talking too. I do not offer outcalls, I do not hobby out of my home, and I do not hobby out of hotels so it really isn’t money in my pocket. We all hobby for different reasons.
My rates are enough to continue to have my own private incall. I wouldn’t want to hobby any other way.

[AdventurousMouse]

I came across an interesting analogy on another website.

In a nutshell, the analogy went: Developing an escort habit is a lot like becoming a bartender.

Here's the explanation.

Once a bartender masters the learning curve of how to make every drink, bartending allows you to make decent money...a lot easier than you would at just about any other job. As a result, the more accustomed you get to being a bartender, the harder it is to switch industries (Because you don't want to give up such a good gig)

As for how the bartending analogy ties in with escorts: Once a guy becomes accustomed to the sheer ease/convenience (and choice) he gets from going the escort route, it becomes hard for him to develop an actual relationship with a woman (Because why deal with the hassles that come with a non-transactional relationship when you've learned there's an alternative?)

In both cases (bartending and going the escort route), it comes at a cost, however.

Being a bartender isn't exactly the most fulfilling career, even if it's somewhat entertaining and comes with good tips.

Likewise, a man getting all (or at least the vast majority of) his sex from escorts is missing out on a key human desire: The desire to be with a woman who genuinely wants to be with him.

[BLM69]

Originally Posted by AdventurousMouse

I used to get free sex with relative ease. In the past decade, however, I've only had sex I didn't pay for once.

While there are a number of reasons I don't get free sex with as much ease as I used to, I'd venture to say one big reason is the sheer convenience of the escort game (being able to get guaranteed sex any time, provided I'm willing to pay)

After getting used to the convenience of utilizing escorts, it's hard to justify going back to the old way (when I pursued sex solely for free)

The older you get, you have to work harder to get it for free, being picky doesn't help the cause, tricking only raises your minimum standards for regular woman that you're attracted to I have lady friends that I've fucked before but wouldn't do it again, we chat and hang out to kill the free time, even slept next to each other but won't do anything with them anymore.

Tricking does give you confidence to approach regular women, my problem is trying to get women out of my league, I have to stop myself and look in the mirror 😂

[Pangolier]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

A cynical but pragmatic view on sex with Providers . . .and the Hobby world:

Look at the Hobbyest-Provider "relationship" as a transaction, Furthermore, you are not paying her to have sex with you, so much as you are paying her to go away after you do have sex.

She will not expect you to call her the next day or to send her flowers . . .or even to remember her name.

Wrong answer. Pretty women indisputably assign a "market place value" to their own tail... I'd go so far as to say 95% or more of them do.


And they don't want to shack up with 80 year old, gray haired guys, swallowing a bottle of Viagra pills and limping around with canes. They want 20 year old studs with dark hair and sculptured abs / biceps; preferably ones who are also charming smooth talkers. One of the main reasons prostitution exist is that most 20 year old guys are not wealthy, regardless of whether they are ugly or handsome. But many older men do have access to large amounts of money.


As women on average start making more and more of their own money through corporate jobs and higher education, the dating market is beginning to collapse under the weight of "romance capitalism." But for guys who don't mind shagging women over the age of 50; those women can no longer use their appearance to their advantage.


If I go out and meet a woman at a bar, then we head back to the bedroom for a one night stand, I have all the ability to block her the next day, and she could be gone for the rest of my life. That does not require me to pay her to "go away." So no, that perspective does not hold water.

[Ripmany]

I consider I have seen or gotten laid by cive after sex with a escort
24 fuck a street walker latter that year I had sex with a yahoo chick and one hook me with a woman that needs dick.
Then I got with a lot lizard in South Carolina and I fuck a fat yahoo chick.i stop
The hobby after joining Mormon church for a few years but first Mormon church did not want anything to do with me. So went back to hobby then I ment Mormon wife I fuck her 300 times before we divorce. Now I have no more civil luck

So until recent times almost every time I hobby I me a civil and fuck as well. It gives me confidence in my game.