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Old Yesterday, 08:19 PM   #181
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Right-wing provocateur Charlie Kirk has been shot on an Utah campus this afternoon. As of this moment he is in critical condition.

Kirk said this in 2023.

“I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.” - Charlie Kirk


Even worse, he made the comments in 2023, following a mass shooting at the Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee.

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you only posted the part you wanted to, not the whole discussion and the rest of his statement. his entire statement brings a much different meaning than this tidbit
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I don't recall stating that it did. But it seems like jump to conclusions day, Oldman.
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Old Yesterday, 08:23 PM   #183
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you only posted the part you wanted to, not the whole discussion and the rest of his statement. his entire statement brings a much different meaning than this tidbit
I posted a link that covered his whole statement back in post #9. It means what it means to who reads it, even if they read it differently than you or I
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Old Yesterday, 08:33 PM   #184
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again, taking a tidbit from a longer discussion to fit your opinion

after the line you posted, charlie continued, "I much prefer the word compassion, and i much prefer the word sympathy. Empathy is where you try to feel someones pain and sorrows as if they're your own. compassion allows for understanding

honestly, we see your hatred, that wont change but at least be honest when posting instead of posting little parts of a conversation that completely changes what is meant.
thats what muture adults do.
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Old Yesterday, 08:37 PM   #185
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I posted a link that covered his whole statement back in post #9. It means what it means to who reads it, even if they read it differently than you or I
first off, i was replying to rmg's post and he only posted a tidbit of the entire discussion which changes the perception entirely

secondly, yes you posted the entire statement which gives more resoning to that quote but again my reply post was not to your post, but to rmg
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again, taking a tidbit from a longer discussion to fit your opinion

after the line you posted, charlie continued, "I much prefer the word compassion, and i much prefer the word sympathy. Empathy is where you try to feel someones pain and sorrows as if they're your own. compassion allows for understanding

honestly, we see your hatred, that wont change but at least be honest when posting instead of posting little parts of a conversation that completely changes what is meant.
thats what muture adults do.
Wow. That’s off the charts manipulation. I’ve watched a bunch of Kirk’s campus videos, he comes across as the least hateful man on the planet, a guy you’d let babysit your kids. Smart too, sharp as a tack way beyond his years, able to keep his cool, be polite and respectful even when getting some pretty vile shit slung at him. People may not agree with his positions on things, but he was anything but hateful.
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first off, i was replying to rmg's post and he only posted a tidbit of the entire discussion which changes the perception entirely

secondly, yes you posted the entire statement which gives more resoning to that quote but again my reply post was not to your post, but to rmg
It changes your perception. It forms your reality. Others see a different message and a different meaning
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I'm not going to take credit for being right just yet but the more that comes out the more it seems the shooter had a specific beef with Charlie Kirk, his brand of politics and his shtick. Felt Kirk was full of hate

Let's wait just a bit longer

https://nypost.com/2025/09/12/us-new...yler-robinson/
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It changes your perception. It forms your reality. Others see a different message and a different meaning
Ummm???

WTF?

CK is dead, I dont think there is another reality where he magically comes back to life in next weeks South Park episode.
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I'm not going to take credit for being right just yet but the more that comes out the more it seems the shooter had a specific beef with Charlie Kirk, his brand of politics and his shtick. Felt Kirk was full of hate

Let's wait just a bit longer

https://nypost.com/2025/09/12/us-new...yler-robinson/
Why does it matter?

Wait for what?

Another Trantifa warrior who killed a Conservative over imaginary offenses.

Congratulations.
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Cox added that the same relative had mentioned a recent dinner conversation where Robinson criticised Kirk and his upcoming Utah visit, saying, "Kirk is full of hate and spreading hate."
Now he responded to that hate with a hateful action, which is reprehensible. Put the antifa part aside. What you feel about what you think his politics are.

Does he appear to be a man who's passions were enflamed by Kirk's rhetoric?

That's not asking if or implying that it was Charlie's fault. That's not victim shaming. We don't have a manifesto, but I'm sure we'll get more of the psychology. Find out more about the triggers and responses.
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Yes you absolutely should feel bad for his wife and especially his kids. Losing a loved one to violence is something everyone should feel empathy towards.

Doesn’t mean that we’re going to be having a kumbaya moment here but a lack of empathy just leads to more hatred and violence. That’s something that the country doesn’t want or need.
Fair point, but I'd wager the kids will grow up to be better people without his influence in their lives. The country also doesn't want or need a Charlie Kirk 2.0
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He literally told us not to shed tears when people get shot in school shootings.
He told the parents of children, children who died in a school shooting, to get over it. That it happens. That it's a regular occurrence.


He literally got shot in a school shooting.
Even fairer point
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And I think that attitude is reprehensible. It doesn’t mean that we should emulate it ourselves.
Maybe the fairest point.

I guess I can find a modicum of sympathy for his family, but fuck Charlie Kirk. He did nothing but spew hateful arrogance and racism. Good riddance.
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Before learning that the kid was one of us
After learning the kid was one of us


These people are animals.
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