Violence and The Left

[chefnerd]

It's been quite awhile since I posted here but maybe we should get some things straight. The murder of Charlid Kirk was WRONG WRONG WRONG. There is nw legitimate reason for political violence unless you believe in an Authortian regime I grew up with that crap in the sixties with JFK, MLK, and RFK. Just out flat fucking wrong. Now am I sorry this racist, homophobic, hate-filled person is gone? No. I do grieve for his wife and children however. This should NOT have happened and in a proper undevided society it would not have. The MAGA/right wing folks have tried to paint the liberla left as bienin the perpetrators of violience. Welcome to a report from the CATO Institute (NOT you standard liberal organization) regarding where the domestic terrorism comes from. Now the havem lists that include and then exclude 9/11.
https://www.cato.org/blog/politicall...-united-states

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

The only dead people on January 6 were Trump supporters.

... FACT.

#### Salty

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by Lantern2814

And that "study" the loyal sheep here bleat our has already been shown to be garbage and lies. As usual. The amount of gaslighting and denial from the left for the last week has been disgusting.

... I was laughing as I was reading the "study" ...
A royal stretch of logic there.

... No wonder Republicans keep gaining support.
Not even The Left fancys the Violence of The Left.

... No bleedin' wonder they constantly deny it...

#### Salty

[chefnerd]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... FACT.

#### Salty

So you are sayig that ALL the Capitol Police casualties were Diaper Don supporters.
Have you ALWAYS been this gullible?

[Tiny]

I presented this to Democrats here on a silver platter in HoHounds thread and no one took it and ran with it,

https://www.cato.org/blog/politicall...-united-states

It's from the Cato Institute, which is nonpartisan but right leaning. Unlike the Biden Department of Justice which did the 2024 study, nobody can argue it has a pro-Democrat bias.

It would indicate that the right is responsible for several times more political deaths than the left. The larger data set, since 1975, makes Islamic terrorists and the right look worse because of 9/11 and Timothy McVeigh's Oklahoma City bombing. Still, strip those out and still the right is the bigger culprit, by several times.

HOWEVER, how many deaths are we looking at? Taking away 9/11, only 12 a year since 1975. Since 2020, only 14 deaths per year. This is nothing. Like I said in HoHound's thread, your chances of dying from a lightning strike are greater than dying from political violence.

On the other hand, there are around 20,000 homicides in the USA every year, virtually all unrelated to political violence. How many of those are committed by Republicans versus Democrats?

I don't believe there's a direct way to answer the question. However, a series of papers by Marc Meredith and Michael Morse about 10 years ago show that several times more ex-felons registered to vote as Democrats than Republicans. Can this be extrapolated to murderers? Maybe so and maybe not. But if so, then Democrats commit a lot more murders than Republicans.

So there! Some here say the Democrats are the murderers and some say the Republicans are. You're both right!

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by chefnerd

So you are sayig that ALL the Capitol Police casualties were Diaper Don supporters.
Have you ALWAYS been this gullible?

... There were NO Capitol police DEAD on 6th January.

... None.

... But there were two dead Trump supporters.

... You must have missed that fact.

#### Salty

[chefnerd]

You are correct on the PEWR/YEAR numbers. At the same time HOW MANY on the extreme right have engaged in mass school schootings ove theat same time frime?

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by chefnerd

So you are sayig that ALL the Capitol Police casualties were Diaper Don supporters.
Have you ALWAYS been this gullible?

No, they didn't say anything like that. Casualties as you know include injuries. Salty and Jacuzzme said the only people dead at the end of the day on January 6 were MAGA supporters. That's true. I agree with what I think you're trying to say -- Google Gemini's saying 140 policemen were injured.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by chefnerd

You are correct on the PEWR/YEAR numbers. At the same time HOW MANY on the extreme right have engaged in mass school schootings ove theat same time frime?

Take a look in the transgender shooters thread, it's probably there in the posts or links. I don't think there were that many on the extreme right. Most school shooters are nut cases.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by chefnerd

It's been quite awhile since I posted here but maybe we should get some things straight. The murder of Charlid Kirk was WRONG WRONG WRONG. There is nw legitimate reason for political violence unless you believe in an Authortian regime I grew up with that crap in the sixties with JFK, MLK, and RFK. Just out flat fucking wrong. Now am I sorry this racist, homophobic, hate-filled person is gone? No. I do grieve for his wife and children however. This should NOT have happened and in a proper undevided society it would not have. The MAGA/right wing folks have tried to paint the liberla left as bienin the perpetrators of violience. Welcome to a report from the CATO Institute (NOT you standard liberal organization) regarding where the domestic terrorism comes from. Now the havem lists that include and then exclude 9/11.
https://www.cato.org/blog/politicall...-united-states

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... There were NO Capitol police DEAD on 6th January.

... None.

... But there were two dead Trump supporters.

... You must have missed that fact.

#### Salty

i'd say that cover that



bahhaaa

Originally Posted by Tiny

Take a look in the transgender shooters thread, it's probably there in the posts or links. I don't think there were that many on the extreme right. Most school shooters are nut cases.

what do you mean "most"?

[ICU 812]

It is my recollection that the only person killed during the events of Jan 6th was an unarmed woman . . .by a member of the Capitol Police force. She died at a hospital from a gunshot wound to the neck I think.

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by Lantern2814

And that "study" the loyal sheep here bleat our has already been shown to be garbage and lies. As usual. The amount of gaslighting and denial from the left for the last week has been disgusting.

Since it's 'already been shown', please provide evidence of the 'garbage and lies' in the 'disappeared' DOJ study.

Should be very easy....

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

what do you mean "most"?

Point taken. You probably couldn't come up with a single instance of a school mass shooter who was a registered Republican or who attended a MAGA rally.

Originally Posted by chefnerd

al oIt's been quite awhile since I posted here but maybe we should get some things straight. The murder of Charlid Kirk was WRONG WRONG WRONG. There is nw legitimate reason for political violence unless you believe in an Authortian regime I grew up with that crap in the sixties with JFK, MLK, and RFK. Just out flat fucking wrong. Now am I sorry this racist, homophobic, hate-filled person is gone? No. I do grieve for his wife and children however. This should NOT have happened and in a proper undevided society it would not have. The MAGA/right wing folks have tried to paint the liberla left as bienin the perpetrators of violience. Welcome to a report from the CATO Institute (NOT you standard liberrganization) regarding where the domestic terrorism comes from. Now the havem lists that include and then exclude 9/11.
https://www.cato.org/blog/politicall...-united-states

Apologies, you beat me to it, posting the link in this thread, but I missed that.

[TheDaliLama]

https://x.com/Timcast/status/1968647516057944258

[TheDaliLama]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Point taken. You probably couldn't come up with a single instance of a school mass shooter who was a registered Republican or who attended a MAGA rally.



Apologies, you beat me to it, posting the link in this thread, but I missed that.

Tiny, for some one who admitted that you never heard of Charlie Kirk until he was assassinated and to repost chefnerds hateful crap about him is pretty lame. Chefnerd wants it it both ways and so do you..