Violence and The Left

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

...This was the seat of our government and they were actively involved in interfering with the change in our government...

You may be surprised to know it is referred to as The People's House.

Guessing you'll be equally surprised that The People are not allowed in it, according to you. AmmIrite?

Goes without saying how surprised you must be that the pipe bomber deets ended up in an FBI burn bag.

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by Salty

.. The Shaman bloke was released from prison almost a half-a-mo
after the video was released... Didn't the Judge and prosecutours
state that IF they would have seen footage like this - they would
have NEVER pushed for HEAVY sentencing??

Chansley was arrested a few days later and indicted on six charges, two of which were felonies. He ultimately struck a deal with the government and pleaded guilty to a single count of obstruction of an official proceeding.

"Men of honor admit when they're wrong. Not just publicly but to themselves," Chansley told the court in Nov. 2021. "I was wrong for entering the Capitol. I have no excuse. No excuse whatsoever. The behavior is indefensible."

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

You may be surprised to know it is referred to as The People's House.

Guessing you'll be equally surprised that The People are not allowed in it, according to you. AmmIrite?

Goes without saying how surprised you must be that the pipe bomber deets ended up in an FBI burn bag.

You might want to read up on 'the peoples house' a bit.

https://www.washington.org/DC-faqs-f...SAAEgKbjvD_BwE
https://www.visitthecapitol.gov/visi...ess-in-session

From the US capitol website

The building is known as the “The People's House” because members of Congress represent the American people.

The galleries are not open to the public during Joint Sessions or Joint Meetings.
Congress was in a joint session on January 6, 2021, to formally count the Electoral College votes from the 2020 presidential election.

[RX792P]

Kind of a 'first strike'

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...icago-concert/
Heavy Metal Band Gwar Stages Assassination of Donald Trump, Elon Musk Decapitation at Chicago Concert

I know very little about GWAR, but I don't think you'll find them to be 'radical left'.
Perhaps nihilist would be the correct term.

[RX792P]

Kind of a 'first strike'

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...icago-concert/
Heavy Metal Band Gwar Stages Assassination of Donald Trump, Elon Musk Decapitation at Chicago Concert

I know very little about GWAR, but I don't think you'll find them to be 'radical left'.
Perhaps nihilist would be the correct term.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Delusional ignorance. I actually believe you believe the silliness you type. Sadly Tiny who knows better has falling off the cliff as well. At least reading these asinine posts provides some entertainment.

... Please explain just WHAT is Delusional here.

#### Salty

[Lantern2814]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

Oh, there you go again with the pronouns and possesives.

You can give us straight facts and not point fingers to draw blame away from responsible parties and influences.

Does it really matter who he was killed by? Does it not have any bearing the environment that coddled, formed and developed the person who pulled the trigger.

All media, left/center/right are reporting the same thing. Guy was conservative in roots. Deny it away however you like.

I just stated, repeatedly, that maggies eat their own.

What would be more apt is to ask yourself: why did a person who was brought up rightwing, admitted a liking for charlie in the past, come about to do what he did?

Answer that. Guy left the fold. Some would say he didn't like what he saw there.

Maybe he saw something y'all maggies are too blind to see being sheeple. It' okay to choose red pill/blue pill choice that will make you see the Matrix your living in.

But go ahead and keep denying. BTW, you got that voters card yet?

Look at that backpedal. The killer was one of YOURS. YOUR people even had the gall to start crap at vigils for Kirk. Despite NO riots, looting, or attacking of police from conservatives. If that voters card you're so obsessed over showed what you claimed, YOU would have posted it. So take your pathetic insults and hit the bricks

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

complete nonsense



they gave the guy a guided tour. the capitol police led him around on a tour.


do you really think this guy should have gotten 4 years? for a guided tour? by the capital police.

Hell no.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

The problem of course is that he pled guilty to obstructing an official proceeding of congress. Not trespassing. It’s not like he jumped a turnstile in the subway or jumped a fence and used the neighbors pool.

He participated in a riot in an attempt to stop congress from certifying the outcome of a presidential election. That’s a felony whether you like it or not.

Giving pardons to the rioters and trying to change the narrative about that day is a crime all by itself.

Did you ever read To Kill a Mockingbird Txdot? Variations of the story occurred in the Deep South. Hunky Black Man has consensual sex with White Woman. White Woman’s husband or father finds out and White Woman accuses Black Man of Rape, to cover her ass. The racist white straight men in the community can’t stand that Black Man violated one of their womenfolk. Or maybe they know the bitch is a liar but feel threatened by Black Man, because he’s hunkier than they are. And there are a couple of closeted homosexuals too who want to kill Black Man, because, like the marine in American Beauty, they’re pissed off that he shunned them.

So what happens? The Black Man gets electrocuted, strung from a tree, or sent to jail for life.

That’s what happened here. The Shaman falls into the category of hunky male, and Democrats felt threatened by him. He was shirtless, painted his face, wore a Viking hat and wild animal skins, and carried a megaphone and flag pole. His very being, his existence, was an assault on the pride and soul of the metrosexual Democrat.

I spent significant time with ChatGPT, who couldn’t find a single instance of another January 6 participant who was sentenced to over 60 days in jail who did not commit violent acts, destroy property, or act as one of the brains behind the so-called “insurrection.” She looked for a good 4 minutes too. They gave the Shaman a 3-1/2 year sentence!

And what was the excuse? Well, the flag pole had a sharp point, and theoretically may have threatened people. And the Shaman left a note on Mike Pence’s desk that said , “It’s only a matter of time. Justice is coming.” And of course that’s bull shit. The Washington D.C. Democrats viewed the Shaman the same way the Southern Democrats, many decades ago, viewed the Black Man, someone to make an example of so others like him don’t get uppity.

I went back to ChatGPT and asked if any of the participants had evidence introduced at their trials that they chanted “Hang Mike Pence” or helped construct the fake “Mike Pence” gallows. She couldn’t find an instance of that either. “Justice is coming” is a whole lot lamer than “Kill Mike Pence.”

As to your belief that what the Shaman did was a felony, why is it that all the other nonviolent offenders were convicted of misdemeanors, including at least one who committed robbery in the Capitol? They were equally complicit in “obstructing an official proceeding of Congress." I’ve already explained why they charged the Shaman, unlike the others, with felonies. Why did he plead guilty? The poor bastard had no choice. When the Department of Justice decides it’s going to fuck someone over, 95 times out of a hundred he will be fucked. The Shaman was faced with a sentence of up to 20 years and massive legal bills if he did not make a deal. A jury in Washington D.C. was about as likely to be sympathetic to his plight as one in Manhattan trying Donald Trump.

And this is why I’m pissed off. It doesn’t matter whether the individual was an eccentric at January 6, or a Black Lives Matter protestor, or a poor black man persecuted by a prosecutor who wants to make a name for himself. Our justice system has run amuck. People know, innocent or guilty, they can’t fight the Man. And it shouldn’t be that way.

Two more items, in case some yahoo wants to RTM me or other January 6 posters in this thread. First, this is a reply to Salty’s Post 92 above, which was the OP for another thread merged with this one. So it’s not off topic. And second, I realize that the typical Southern Democrat of 80 years ago was a whole lot more likely to be racist than Democrats today. My comment on that above was just an observation.

Originally Posted by RX792P

Chansley was arrested a few days later and indicted on six charges, two of which were felonies. He ultimately struck a deal with the government and pleaded guilty to a single count of obstruction of an official proceeding.

"Men of honor admit when they're wrong. Not just publicly but to themselves," Chansley told the court in Nov. 2021. "I was wrong for entering the Capitol. I have no excuse. No excuse whatsoever. The behavior is indefensible."

You have to play the game and kiss their ass or they'll crucify you.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

...What would be more apt is to ask yourself: why did a person who was brought up rightwing, admitted a liking for charlie in the past, come about to do what he did?

Answer that. Guy left the fold. Some would say he didn't like what he saw there.

Maybe he saw something y'all maggies are too blind to see being sheeple. It' okay to choose red pill/blue pill choice that will make you see the Matrix your living in.

So he took the red pill and killed Charlie Kirk, and that's okay? I must be misinterpreting what you wrote. You don't believe that.

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Delusional ignorance. I actually believe you believe the silliness you type. Sadly Tiny who knows better has falling off the cliff as well. At least reading these asinine posts provides some entertainment.

Falling off the cliff? Post #114's for you Blackman!

You're a lawyer. You're biased. While you may be one of the good guys, defending Exxon and the like, it's bad for business when government quits locking up innocent people and suing businesses which did nothing wrong.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by RX792P

Kind of a 'first strike'

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...icago-concert/
Heavy Metal Band Gwar Stages Assassination of Donald Trump, Elon Musk Decapitation at Chicago Concert

I know very little about GWAR, but I don't think you'll find them to be 'radical left'.
Perhaps nihilist would be the correct term.

i wouldn't read too much into it, nihilist perhaps but GWAR who i went out of my way twice to see have always been performance art and the best description is a cross between KISS and a Dungeons and Dragons theater art and the Church of Satan. media labels them "shock rock". BAHHAAA


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwar


here they are strangling Arnie Schwarzenegger on stage





here they are fucking with Obama ..


https://www.instagram.com/p/CLVgyoJpapk/

some interesting comments. check 'em out.


gwar
240w
You yankees call em presidents, but they are just foolish humans to us. And we’ll kill em all! #GWAR



deathmetaldogman
221w
Burn in hell Obama





when not satirizing Governors and Presidents their shows are typically Satanic rituals where people are "eaten" by Satan and monsters. BAHAAA

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

i wouldn't read too much into it, nihilist perhaps but GWAR who i went out of my way twice to see have always been performance art and the best description is a cross between KISS and a Dungeons and Dragons theater art and the Church of Satan. media labels them "shock rock". BAHHAAA


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwar


here they are strangling Arnie Schwarzenegger on stage







here they are fucking with Obama ..


https://www.instagram.com/p/CLVgyoJpapk/

some interesting comments. check 'em out.


gwar
240w
You yankees call em presidents, but they are just foolish humans to us. And we’ll kill em all! #GWAR



deathmetaldogman
221w
Burn in hell Obama





when not satirizing Governors and Presidents their shows are typically Satanic rituals where people are "eaten" by Satan and monsters. BAHAAA

OK, so if it's 'performance art', it's OK to depict killing Trump and Musk....

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Did you ever read To Kill a Mockingbird Txdot? Variations of the story occurred in the Deep South. Hunky Black Man has consensual sex with White Woman. White Woman’s husband or father finds out and White Woman accuses Black Man of Rape, to cover her ass. The racist white straight men in the community can’t stand that Black Man violated one of their womenfolk. Or maybe they know the bitch is a liar but feel threatened by Black Man, because he’s hunkier than they are. And there are a couple of closeted homosexuals too who want to kill Black Man, because, like the marine in American Beauty, they’re pissed off that he shunned them.

So what happens? The Black Man gets electrocuted, strung from a tree, or sent to jail for life.

That’s what happened here. The Shaman falls into the category of hunky male, and Democrats felt threatened by him. He was shirtless, painted his face, wore a Viking hat and wild animal skins, and carried a megaphone and flag pole. His very being, his existence, was an assault on the pride and soul of the metrosexual Democrat.

I spent significant time with ChatGPT, who couldn’t find a single instance of another January 6 participant who was sentenced to over 60 days in jail who did not commit violent acts, destroy property, or act as one of the brains behind the so-called “insurrection.” She looked for a good 4 minutes too. They gave the Shaman a 3-1/2 year sentence!

And what was the excuse? Well, the flag pole had a sharp point, and theoretically may have threatened people. And the Shaman left a note on Mike Pence’s desk that said , “It’s only a matter of time. Justice is coming.” And of course that’s bull shit. The Washington D.C. Democrats viewed the Shaman the same way the Southern Democrats, many decades ago, viewed the Black Man, someone to make an example of so others like him don’t get uppity.

I went back to ChatGPT and asked if any of the participants had evidence introduced at their trials that they chanted “Hang Mike Pence” or helped construct the fake “Mike Pence” gallows. She couldn’t find an instance of that either. “Justice is coming” is a whole lot lamer than “Kill Mike Pence.”

As to your belief that what the Shaman did was a felony, why is it that all the other nonviolent offenders were convicted of misdemeanors, including at least one who committed robbery in the Capitol? They were equally complicit in “obstructing an official proceeding of Congress." I’ve already explained why they charged the Shaman, unlike the others, with felonies. Why did he plead guilty? The poor bastard had no choice. When the Department of Justice decides it’s going to fuck someone over, 95 times out of a hundred he will be fucked. The Shaman was faced with a sentence of up to 20 years and massive legal bills if he did not make a deal. A jury in Washington D.C. was about as likely to be sympathetic to his plight as one in Manhattan trying Donald Trump.

And this is why I’m pissed off. It doesn’t matter whether the individual was an eccentric at January 6, or a Black Lives Matter protestor, or a poor black man persecuted by a prosecutor who wants to make a name for himself. Our justice system has run amuck. People know, innocent or guilty, they can’t fight the Man. And it shouldn’t be that way.

Two more items, in case some yahoo wants to RTM me or other January 6 posters in this thread. First, this is a reply to Salty’s Post 92 above, which was the OP for another thread merged with this one. So it’s not off topic. And second, I realize that the typical Southern Democrat of 80 years ago was a whole lot more likely to be racist than Democrats today. My comment on that above was just an observation.

You have to play the game and kiss their ass or they'll crucify you.

Tiny makes a compelling argument for government overreach and a bias against the QAnon Shaman because of his looks and affiliation. And I respect Tiny’s opinion on this subject.

However I don’t buy it. There were a lot of people at the January 6th riot who didn’t participate in the violence, who didn’t go into the capitol, and who didn’t knowingly participate in the breach of the capitol.

He knew he was not allowed in the building yet he went anyway. He pled guilty to the charges.

He wasn’t entrapped by the police. He had a choice to make and he chose the wrong path.

He knows better now but that doesn’t absolve him of his poor judgement.

[RX792P]

Left?

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...t/86244067007/

Phoenix police arrested a 49-year-old man on Sept. 17 after he threatened to attack an LGBTQ+ bar and told officers he considered conservative activist Charlie Kirk a “martyr,” according to court records.

Police said Treven Michael Gokey called the Solari Crisis Line to report he was feeling “triggered by political events.” In the 14-minute call, he allegedly threatened to “shoot up” Cruisin’ 7th, a gay bar near 7th Street and Osborn Road in Midtown. While he admitted to not currently having a firearm, he said they are accessible "because it is America," according to court records.

According to court documents, Gokey told the crisis line his motivation was conservative activist Charlie Kirk, a national figure and founder of Phoenix-based Turning Point USA, who was fatally shot while speaking at a university in Utah on Sept. 10.

IMO...another nutball...we seem to have no shortage these days.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by Lantern2814

Look at that backpedal. The killer was one of YOURS. YOUR people even had the gall to start crap at vigils for Kirk. Despite NO riots, looting, or attacking of police from conservatives. If that voters card you're so obsessed over showed what you claimed, YOU would have posted it. So take your pathetic insults and hit the bricks

Can you specifically state what exactly I "backpedal" on? Your blind rage is making it difficult to understand what you are trying to convey. If anything, you have consistently shown that you think he had a leftwing upbringing at home. All media state otherwise. Hence my asking you to show proof of such. Please stop taking the maggie line of yelling, screaming, expounding, etc. a lie so often that you think it will magically turn into the truth. I welcome you to prove me wrong.

The flauting of possesives and pronouns such does not make.
I REALLY think you need to take a time out.

Otherwises, keep smashing that button. Make sure you have a splint on your finger because I think you might do serious damage to it.

Originally Posted by Tiny

So he took the red pill and killed Charlie Kirk, and that's okay? I must be misinterpreting what you wrote. You don't believe that.
...

I wasn't much for the Matrix movies. Just that Kenau was given a choice if he wanted to see what the real reality was with that red/blue pill bit. Did not mean to denote politics with colour of pill in movie (though there probably is something about the colour in that series.)

Saying that the conservative upbringing of the shooter, which the above poster still can't own, and his dealings with the rightwing, seeing that it was acknowledged he use to follow CK, something brought him to a change that led him to do what he did.