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Old 09-24-2025, 11:08 PM   #46
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Over 50 million Americans use acetaminophen-containing medications each week.

If there really is a connection to autism don’t you think that they would have found it before now? If it did have the effect that they said it does don’t you think it would have other effects besides just autism?

Scientists will have to do a great more research before anyone can say that acetaminophen has an effect on autism development during pregnancy.

Having the government weigh in is just not warranted at this time and the fact that they are despite the lack of concrete evidence is troublesome at best and criminal at worst.
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Old 09-24-2025, 11:23 PM   #47
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Over 50 million Americans use acetaminophen-containing medications each week.

If there really is a connection to autism don’t you think that they would have found it before now? If it did have the effect that they said it does don’t you think it would have other effects besides just autism?

Scientists will have to do a great more research before anyone can say that acetaminophen has an effect on autism development during pregnancy.

Having the government weigh in is just not warranted at this time and the fact that they are despite the lack of concrete evidence is troublesome at best and criminal at worst.



you do know Tylenol said in 2017 a pregnant women shouldn't take Tylenol?


you knew that .. right??????


don't bother with the "lacks context" nonsense defense. the article is jacking themselves off to defend it. they said this



The statement continued, “Acetaminophen is the safest pain reliever option for pregnant women as needed throughout their entire pregnancy,” adding that “We recommend pregnant women do not take any over-the-counter medication, including acetaminophen, without talking to their doctor first.”


CYA so they aren't libel .. blame it on the Doctor who listened to us! but not us!!!!



https://www.newsweek.com/tylenols-20...ments-10482333
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...If there really is a connection to autism don’t you think that they would have found it before now? If it did have the effect that they said it does don’t you think it would have other effects besides just autism?...
Did they look?
Did they receive money from the manufacturers?

Some items you may want to reflect on in your spare time, with yourself.

Setting those aside: Please explain the meteoric rise of Autism diagnoses in recent times.

While you're looking: How would you explain the obesity rates in younger folks?

It's as much about asking the "right" questions up front, as it is diligently searching for answers.
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you do know Tylenol said in 2017 a pregnant women shouldn't take Tylenol?

you knew that .. right??????...
While some may not be able to articulate the differences between a male and female, i.e. what is a woman, the differences between a male and a pregnant female are vast, physiologically. That's why most any drug that comes out is typically delayed for pregnant women. Similar for children. They are separate group studies from regular adults.

I would posit that they need to further subdivide the study groups by Democrat and Republican. This could save the manufacturers tons-o-money, as they could simply tell the Dems that it's good for them and be believed, whereas, they would have to spend time and money to prove it for the Republicans.

In ironic essence; the Dems rushing out to gobble it all down on command, could end up being the Guinea pigs and funding the safety studies for the rest of us. Seemed to work with the covid to some extent.
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Turns out they did have some clues to follow. Oddly enough, Autism, ADHD, as well as a host of other maladies, has sky rocketed since then.
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Masarwa R, Levine H, Gorelik E, Reif S, Perlman A, Matok I.

Prenatal Exposure to Acetaminophen and Risk for Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder and Autistic Spectrum Disorder: A Systematic Review, Meta-Analysis, and Meta-Regression Analysis of Cohort Studies. Am J Epidemiol.
2018 Aug 1;187(8):1817-1827. doi: 10.1093/aje/kwy086. PMID: 29688261.
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Acetaminophen is the analgesic and antipyretic most commonly used during pregnancy. Evidence of neurodisruptive properties is accumulating. Therefore, we sought to evaluate the risk for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and autistic spectrum disorder (ASD) in the offspring of women exposed to acetaminophen during pregnancy. We searched MEDLINE, Embase, and Cochrane databases for relevant studies up to January 2017. Data were independently extracted and assessed by 2 researchers. Seven eligible retrospective cohorts included 132,738 mother-child pairs, with follow-up periods ranging from 3 to 11 years. The pooled risk ratio for ADHD was 1.34 (95% confidence interval (CI): 1.21, 1.47; I2 = 72%); for ASD, the risk ratio was 1.19 (95% CI: 1.14, 1.25; I2 = 14%), and for hyperactivity symptoms, it was 1.24 (95% CI: 1.04, 1.43; I2 = 93%). In meta-regression analysis, the association between exposure and ADHD increased with the child's age upon follow-up (β = 0.03, 95% CI: 0.00, 0.07) and with the mean duration of exposure (β = 0.00, 95% CI: 0.00, 0.01). The available data is of observational nature only. Studies differed widely in exposure and outcome assessment. Acetaminophen use during pregnancy is associated with an increased risk for ADHD, ASD, and hyperactivity symptoms. These findings are concerning; however, results should be interpreted with caution given that the available evidence consists of observational studies and is susceptible to several potential sources of bias.
Yet, some still wonder why the manufacturer wouldn't recommend it for pregnant women (or is it a birthing person with a vag now-a-days)?!?
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Sigh, I don't think most people replying in this thread have any clue about life science and simply believe whatever story the highest degreed person tells them.


In other words, pretty much every farmer in the United States has a better understanding.


Even a relative of mine who was a rancher? He use to treat himself with the veterinarian pharmaceuticals. Even know one guy that runs cattle that on his insurance he has listed his veterinarian as his primary care doctor.

Guess those farmers do have a better understanding



LOL, if you actually ever talked with a Veterinarian vs a Medical Doctor I would trust the Veterinarian more too.
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Turns out they did have some clues to follow. Oddly enough, Autism, ADHD, as well as a host of other maladies, has sky rocketed since then.
I'll highlight a couple items for the TL;DR crew.Yet, some still wonder why the manufacturer wouldn't recommend it for pregnant women (or is it a birthing person with a vag now-a-days)?!?
Maybe you should be highlighting this instead.

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These findings are concerning; however, results should be interpreted with caution given that the available evidence consists of observational studies and is susceptible to several potential sources of bias.
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Over 50 million Americans use acetaminophen-containing medications each week.

If there really is a connection to autism don’t you think that they would have found it before now? If it did have the effect that they said it does don’t you think it would have other effects besides just autism?

Scientists will have to do a great more research before anyone can say that acetaminophen has an effect on autism development during pregnancy.

Having the government weigh in is just not warranted at this time and the fact that they are despite the lack of concrete evidence is troublesome at best and criminal at worst.
What’s the problem with letting people know that some studies show possible problems in pregnant women? It’s not like they’re banning it, a woman can weigh the risks and do what she thinks is right for her. There’s substitutes (ibuprofen, naproxen) that a woman may choose to use instead if she wants. Letting the public know is responsible governance. If they didn’t, and the studies leaked, the same people who are now screaming about Trump putting the information out there would be inflamed (pun intended) that he didn’t.
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What’s the problem with letting people know that some studies show possible problems in pregnant women? It’s not like they’re banning it, a woman can weigh the risks and do what she thinks is right for her. There’s substitutes (ibuprofen, naproxen) that a woman may choose to use instead if she wants. Letting the public know is responsible governance. If they didn’t, and the studies leaked, the same people who are now screaming about Trump putting the information out there would be inflamed (pun intended) that he didn’t.
Jacuzzme makes a good point. I had to stop and really think about why I don’t like this particular announcement from the government.

After due consideration I have come to the conclusion that I just don’t trust Trump and RFK jr not to f**k it up.

Trump is a moron and his comments were rambling and unfocused when he made the announcement and Tiny posted in #40 RFK jr has a monetary bias against the pharmaceutical industry in general.

I wouldn’t trust either one of these morons further than I could throw them.
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...After due consideration I have come to the conclusion that I just don’t trust Trump and RFK jr not to f**k it up...
It could actually be something else entirely.
As my Granny use to say: Living life in a vacuum sucks...

Anyone you know?
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...Nicole Sirotek, founder of American Frontline Nurses, claimed that she received a frantic 4 a.m. call from a distraught husband whose pregnant wife is now on a ventilator after overdosing on Tylenol.

According to Sirotek, the woman, who was between 23 and 25 weeks pregnant, attempted to ingest massive amounts of Tylenol in an effort to “prove Donald Trump wrong” after his recent remarks linking acetaminophen use during pregnancy to autism...
No idea if true, but she is a nurse that has been around and raising cane about the covid scam since 2020 (you might recall, she was censored by the AutoPen regime), but cannot name the name over HIPPA rules without permission, while the husband is in shock that the broad had terminal TDS.

Does seem a ding-danged shame nobody had mentioned or even noticed the potential of adverse reactions and thought enough to tell you about it. Well... except for the vast teams of Lawyers and Doctors for 1 1/2 decades. There are more.
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Nature Reviews Endocrinology Study: A 2021 summary of the evidence that shows acetaminophen increases the risk of some neurodevelopmental, reproductive, and urogenital disorders (including ADHD and ASD). Also outlines that acetaminophen is “estimated to be used by up to 65% of pregnant women.”

Johns Hopkins Study: This 2019 study by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health found that prenatal acetaminophen exposure may increase a child’s risk for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) or autism spectrum disorder (ASD).

National Institutes of Health Study: This 2019 study suggests that exposure to acetaminophen in the womb is linked to higher risks of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and/or autism.

American Journal of Epidemiology Article: This 2018 article outline studies that examined the use of acetaminophen during pregnancy and acetaminophen’s impact on the unborn child. The studies concluded that “acetaminophen exposure during pregnancy is associated with a 20% - 30% increased risk for neurodevelopmental disorders,” including ADHD and autism.
There are multiple Law firms that have suits running. Some suits have been consolidated together.

Would you be further surprised to learn that these suits got slow walked during the AutoPen years? Go ahead. It's OK. You can tell us. We know already...

Keep your seat on the TDS train, but wear your seat belt as that next stop just may be a doozy.

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The real problem is people want to assume if it is over the counter it is safe and that the Government agency approval is always right.


The real issue is that everything has risks associated with it, and they don't give people enough information to accurately weigh the risks.


Reading a report from one of the studies it showed that mothers that had high amounts of Tylenol I think in the placenta, those children had higher rates of Autism. So if a Mother took Tylenol a couple times for a headache not a big deal. The more times you take Tylenol the more likely for problems. This used to be common sense.
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Kind of thought someone would maybe comment on this by now, but I guess not.


https://www.newsmax.com/us/tylenol-a...22/id/1227414/


Definitely need to study it more, but it appears it could be a contributing factor.
Many people in America think there's a magic pill for every ailment but people need to look at all the chemicals and OTC drugs they're putting on and in their bodies to include vaccines.
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Acetaminophen during pregnancy may increase risk of hyperactivity in kids.
CNN 8/15/16

Study links acetaminophen in pregnancy to ADHD, but experts question results
CNN 10/30/17

Common painkiller should be investigated for possible risks to developing fetuses, experts say.
CNN 9/23/21

Trump links autism to acetaminophen use during pregnancy, despite decades of evidence it’s safe
CNN 9/23/25
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Acetaminophen during pregnancy may increase risk of hyperactivity in kids.
CNN 8/15/16

Study links acetaminophen in pregnancy to ADHD, but experts question results
CNN 10/30/17

Common painkiller should be investigated for possible risks to developing fetuses, experts say.
CNN 9/23/21

Trump links autism to acetaminophen use during pregnancy, despite decades of evidence it’s safe
CNN 9/23/25
... Crikey! ... Surely WOULD seem that the acetaminophen RISK
was already KNOWN - way back in 2017.

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Sigh, I don't think most people replying in this thread have any clue about life science and simply believe whatever story the highest degreed person tells them.


In other words, pretty much every farmer in the United States has a better understanding.
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Yes, and Dead Doctors Don’t Lie
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Even a relative of mine who was a rancher? He use to treat himself with the veterinarian pharmaceuticals. Even know one guy that runs cattle that on his insurance he has listed his veterinarian as his primary care doctor.

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LOL, if you actually ever talked with a Veterinarian vs a Medical Doctor I would trust the Veterinarian more too.
I think I finally beat RX at his own game, satire nobody can understand. Joel Wallach, a veterinarian, coined "Dead Doctors Don't Lie," the idea being that if you followed your doctor's advice you'd end up dead. Which, at some point, is absolutely true!

Wallach promoted his brand of nutritional supplements, based on his experience as a vet. He was wildly popular on my father's side of the family, who were all farmers and ranchers. Two of my aunts actually went to see him in person.

Wallach wanted people to take massive quantities of his supplements. I probably would follow his advice if I had a business extracting mother's milk or raising humans to slaughter and sell the meat. But otherwise I'd far prefer a medical doctor's advice.

My two aunts who were big Wallach fans lived into their early 90's, and an uncle who also was until his late 80's. So who knows. Maybe the vets are better than the doctors!
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