Tariff Man and his tariff plan cause market plunges

[HDGristle]

https://www.tradecomplianceresourceh...ariff-tracker/

Reed Smith added the latest tariff announcements to their tracker.

[HDGristle]

https://www.kiplinger.com/taxes/are-trump-tariffs-legal

A good look at the legality of the IEEPA tsriffs

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

https://www.tradecomplianceresourceh...ariff-tracker/

Reed Smith added the latest tariff announcements to their tracker.

Originally Posted by HDGristle

https://www.kiplinger.com/taxes/are-trump-tariffs-legal

A good look at the legality of the IEEPA tsriffs

in other news ...

Water ... Wet!

Markets .. all time high!

world economic collapse ... didn't happen!

Several major US stock indexes, including the S&P 500, Nasdaq Composite, and Dow Jones Industrial Average, hit new all-time highs in early October 2025
. These gains occurred despite a U.S. government shutdown, as strong performance from technology stocks and bets on future interest rate cuts fueled investor optimism


admit it your doom and gloom prognostication didn't happen just give up with it eh?


bahahahahaa

[Salty Again]

... Just as WE EXPECTED! ... WINNING! ... ...

#### Salty

[HDGristle]

Be very glad Tariffman didn't get those Tantrum Day tariffs to stick. You would be singing a different song, Salty.

Lets remember the Q2 growth was primarily driven by a decrease in imports and an increase in consumer spending, though it was partially offset by declines in investment and exports.

You're seeing the impact in Ag because we had a lot of inventories elsewhere. We just handed a chunk of our Ag markets to other countries. One of which we just bailed out.

Bourbon is teetering. Beer is down.

Keep watching, the game plays out over years, not a couple quarters.

[HDGristle]

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politi...-farmer-trade/

Some farmers have some pretty strong thoughts about Tariffman's tariffs, impact on the Ag markets and proposal to use tariff revenue for a bailout to solve a problem he caused

[HDGristle]

https://www.toledoblade.com/business...es/20251005075

I have spoken with Zephro before at some industry events years in the past. He's been delivering some of the best, affordable Halloween merchandise and prop replicas on the market today.

Businesses like his are the ones that you want to see succeed.

He's paying the tariffs as the importer. He's watching his customers balk at the price increases he has to push through the chain. It's definitely hurting him to lay off staff.

[oldman2525]

The economy is just getting stronger, not weaker, and ‘we in the economics profession need to look ourselves in the mirror,’ top analyst says

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/econo...183626980.html


lol

[bambino]

Prices are down for the holiday season

https://t.me/realKarliBonne/309752

[eyecu2]

It's fun to play economics and have the government shut down at the same time. Nobody to tell us that either the GDP is down, or Inflation factors rising. Things that BLS department would normally and "faithfully" provide are not only sidelined, but now rigged with a new sheriff who just might be the rest of the trump toadies and report numbers with a finger on the scale. I think that the Unemployment figure are going to be creeping higher - and not just for fed jobs, but recently I've heard of MANY companies doing layoffs and restructurings to align towards profit sheets vs. production efficiencies.

Other things like EV credits which drove a lot of sales recently are now over and that will kill the remainder of the EV sales on lots. Dealers will likely have to sell at a loss; as there is no way to get that toothpaste back in the tube. (so goes the way of the automobile -goes the way of the economy) Housing starts are flat and will likely remain so- or drop due to both time of the year and rates staying put, along with people saying-I cannot move to a house that costs 2x what I pay for now and it being smaller.

Time will tell- But - what do you think will happen in NOV SHOULD the SCOTUS rule that the tariffs are null and void. I hear that there is another plan to do it based on a different premise than originally suggested. Now its no longer about national security but rather emergency trade powers. Well, I guess the spaghetti is still being thrown at the wall in addition to the ketchup and hamberders.

[Green_Mountain]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

along with people saying-I cannot move to a house that costs 2x what I pay for now and it being smaller.

Who is saying that? Why would a smaller home cost 2x as much?

And finally why have other countries tariffed US goods for decades? Are they a threat to democracy?

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Who is saying that? Why would a smaller home cost 2x as much?

Depends on the location. A 750k home in my neighborhood would be 5 mil if you dropped it in Nantucket.

[HDGristle]

Something like this would go a long way towards doing more than pay lip service about protecting American businesses

https://www.durangoherald.com/articl...rumps-tariffs/

Wish we would see more in Congress adopt this kind of approach

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by oldman2525

The economy is just getting stronger, not weaker, and ‘we in the economics profession need to look ourselves in the mirror,’ top analyst says.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/econo...183626980.html


lol

The same economist added:

“It is becoming increasingly difficult to argue that we are still waiting for the delayed negative effects of what happened six months ago,” referring to President Trump’s Liberation Day and the imposition of sweeping reciprocal tariffs.




Our annualized GDP growth rate of 3.8% in Q2 2005 was the highest in nearly two years. The Atlanta Fed's GDP Now model estimates an identical gain of 3.8% was achieved during the quarter just ended (Q3).

Keep looking for those elusive storm clouds ahead, Gristle!

But if they don't materialize, I'm confident you can still spread some "good cheer" with your Debbie Downer pals by identifying a few dark linings in the silver clouds lol.

[HDGristle]

I would agree, except for the pauses

The tariffs for China, which is the big one, they briefly implemented then paused that 145% which was then massively reduced and they're on 90 day pause number 2