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Old 11-01-2025, 09:50 AM   #31
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]]Why don’t they want you feeding the bears at Yellow Stone National park?[/COLOR][/COLOR]

Because it will make them dependent.

That’s why democrats want the government monopoly on charity and can’t tolerate Churches filling that need. Government is the new God and politicians are the priests dipping into the offering. The new priesthood has no power if you’re not dependent upon their God.
Because they'll tear you a new asshole when you run out of food.
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Old 11-01-2025, 09:54 AM   #32
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Cruelty is the hallmark of the MAGA regime.

This is further proof.

How many SNAP recipients in the “good states?”

Maybe Trump will deport them all. Or let them starve. Or get one of his less subtle buddies - like Putin or Netanyahu - to ICE them for real.

Would that work for you?

Those on the SNAPP program who entered the country illegally and are now benefitting from federal tax dollars are deportable under existing statute law.
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Old 11-01-2025, 09:57 AM   #33
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If they’re here illegally, then they already get just what you fine, hospitable, caring humanitarians want … nothing.

If not, then FUCKING FEED THE HUNGRY!

… and pray to the God of your choice that isn’t you one day.

Ungodly cruelty. Hope you all own it, because 2026 is when the people will have THEIR retribution.
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Old 11-01-2025, 10:00 AM   #34
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Why weren’t appropriations bills passed before the need for the CRs? Republicans found a way to stay and negotiate amongst themselves to pass the Big Bullshit Bill. The issues that aren’t resolved regarding the AcA subsidies could have been resolved prior to the need for another CR. Remember this arose originally in March. Supposedly they agreed to resolve it then when Schumer and others voted for the CR. Instead the republicans passed the Bullshit Bill. So of course the whole “trust us to negotiate this time” carries zero weight.
Why indeed.

It is my understanding that these appropriations have been in negotiation since the inauguration, but have been stalled btw Democrats' intrkangencce.

The Republican's position is that these negotiations can continue when the government is refunded. It should be noted here that the Republican CR passed by the House and now before the Senate would fund the government act the rate of deficit spending (and borrowing) set by the Democrats during the Biden administration.

So,it is their own budget the Democrats are objecting to in voting against the current CR.
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Old 11-01-2025, 10:28 AM   #35
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Nope. Your understanding doesn’t track with the actions of the Trump regime and the chickenshit do nothing Republicans “Congress.”

Their position is whatever they read on Troof Social at 3 am.

Those who don’t understand that are truly ignorant of recent history. Or can’t tell the elephant from the alligator from the horse…LOL
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Old 11-01-2025, 01:43 PM   #36
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Not a lawyer myself so this may seem nieve but . . .

If a judge can force the government to pay out money that is not available because the continuing ring resolution has not been passes in the Senate, Why can't the judge force the Senate to pass the CR?

To extend the thought: Looking backward now, if a judge can force the government to do that, why couldn't a judge force the government to pass Obama Care or the Green New Deal . . . .or to force any other legislative action.

This judicial action seems absurd to me , but then, I am not a lawyer.

So . . .does anyone know what actually is the case ?
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Old 11-01-2025, 04:50 PM   #37
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So . . .does anyone know what actually is the case ?
There is an emergency fund available that can be used to pay for the snap benefits. The judges are requiring that the administration use these funds to pay for the snap payments.

https://apnews.com/article/snap-shut...31b73?hl=en-US
BOSTON (AP) — Two federal judges ruled nearly simultaneously on Friday that President Donald Trump’s administration must continue to pay for SNAP, the nation’s biggest food aid program, using emergency reserve funds during the government shutdown.
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Old 11-01-2025, 06:06 PM   #38
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Cruelty is the hallmark of the MAGA regime.

This is further proof.

How many SNAP recipients in the “good states?”

Maybe Trump will deport them all. Or let them starve. Or get one of his less subtle buddies - like Putin or Netanyahu - to ICE them for real.

Would that work for you?
Government programs like SNAP, Food Stamps ect are not guaranteed. They are given without any provisions bound by Law or the Constitution. Whatever the Government can freely give they can easily take away. You can call it cruelty if you want. What's truly cruel is enslaving people with Government commodities.
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Old 11-01-2025, 06:55 PM   #39
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Government programs like SNAP, Food Stamps ect are not guaranteed. They are given without any provisions bound by Law or the Constitution. Whatever the Government can freely give they can easily take away. You can call it cruelty if you want. What's truly cruel is enslaving people with Government commodities.
Until it's you or your family.
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Until it's you or your family.
Not really. Besides these programs won't be cut out completely. Besides America is more of a corporation than it is a Country, so they don't want to many people that are self-reliant.
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Back in the decade of the 1980s it was me and my family. On more than one occasion, I was unemployed as the oil industry went through a boom-then-bust cycle. One time it was or over a year. Not only did we not have a positive cash flow (not working) , we had no health insurance either.

I beat he bushes for work. . . . .did a few things well below my ability (sold news papers on the street) and my wife did too. Somehow we managed to just get by., but just.

Didn't have Food Stamps,. Unemployment eventually runs out. I recall sitting on a bench in a mall looking at a bank of pay phones (1980s remember) with the circled Want Ads from the Sunday paper. I still had two quarters, but had made all the calls and all the call-backs without result . . .and there was nothing left until the paper came out again on Sunday. It was Thursday.
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Old 11-03-2025, 12:16 PM   #42
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Again just like I said:


https://apnews.com/article/snap-gove...6dc59a3382e811


https://www.npr.org/2025/11/03/nx-s1...nment-shutdown

*partial payment hopefully to all 41.7 million recipients since the fun they are tapping into is only 4.7 and change billions when it costs over 9 billion a month


*the payments won't go out right away, may take 2 weeks plus because there is a lot of logistic involved and someone has to go in in every state to 'reprogram' to get the money flowing


*what money are the Democrat and Liberal judges gonna order President Trump to tap into to fund Snap for December and for each month the shutdown is not resolved?

This whole thing of tapping into a fund with the USDA not meant for SNAP is just a bad idea and those judges should never had made the order to.



Then later when the USDA needs that money for its original intended purpose, there is no money. SO they are going to borrow or get it from elsewhere?
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Why indeed.

It is my understanding that these appropriations have been in negotiation since the inauguration, but have been stalled btw Democrats' intrkangencce.

The Republican's position is that these negotiations can continue when the government is refunded. It should be noted here that the Republican CR passed by the House and now before the Senate would fund the government act the rate of deficit spending (and borrowing) set by the Democrats during the Biden administration.

So,it is their own budget the Democrats are objecting to in voting against the current CR.
Let’s use your logic.

If there’s been negotiation since January, what will another 7 weeks of opening the government do. If they couldn’t come to any agreement on the subsidies from Jan to March (when they had the first CR) and they couldn’t come to any agreement from March to September (even while the republicans passed the BBullshitB), how will the next 7 weeks result in anything except another CR request?

If the republicans intended to actually negotiate they could have included that in the BBullshitB to make sure that the subsidies were taken care of. That wasn’t the case. Instead they took money away from Medicaid and the subsidies. That pretty much tells all you need to know about whether the republicans intended to negotiate a resolution.
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Old 11-03-2025, 05:19 PM   #44
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Well at least half a family will be able to eat ... eventually.

Glad the people forcing this cruelty on Americans are all living it up at Gatsby parties and flying around in new jets... and tearing up the people's house like it was their own.

Disgusting.
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Old 11-03-2025, 06:24 PM   #45
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If they’re here illegally, then they already get just what you fine, hospitable, caring humanitarians want … nothing.

If not, then FUCKING FEED THE HUNGRY!

… and pray to the God of your choice that isn’t you one day.

Ungodly cruelty. Hope you all own it, because 2026 is when the people will have THEIR retribution.
Then maybe these idiotic, delusional DEMOCRATS should actually get off their asses, quit lying to the people and vote to OPEN THE GOVERNMENT. YOUR side owns it, no matter how much you gaslight people.
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