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Old 11-28-2025, 09:42 PM   #31
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At this time we don’t know the shooter’s motives. But up until this shooting he was considered an ally deserving of asylum for him and his family because of his work with our forces in Afghanistan.

But soldiers going rogue happens to American soldiers as well as foreign soldiers as well.

Here is an article from the AP describing 11 different shootings involving American military personnel since 2009.

https://apnews.com/article/military-...9876a59da664ca

I think the better question should be was the National Guard deployment really necessary or was it just a publicity campaign by the Trump Administration?

In my opinion by deploying National Guardsmen for political rather than real security or disaster relief reasons is akin to placing these soldiers in harm’s way for no valid reason at all. Hell soldiers could and possibly have been involved in car accidents, food poisoning, sickness, or any other of a variety of things that could be related to injury or death to those being deployed.

Being deployed to pick up Trash in DC or to parade around armed in your uniform just to burnish the narrative of a politician doesn’t seem to be a good reason to join the Guard to me.
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No question about it. Those poor kids from WV should never have been deployed to DC, or any other US city.

Their blood is on Hegseth’s and Twitler’s tiny hands.
I tend to agree that these victims were ended up in this situation by being the pawns of those who are claiming a problem where none existed. They are ultimately the sad result of one persons political gamemanship.

They did not need to be in this situation.

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The OP starts this thread putting "leftwing nut" in the title.


Here is what is known:

The motive and political affiliation of the suspect in the November 26, 2025, Washington D.C. shooting remain under active investigation, with no official determination made by law enforcement.


While the investigation into Lakanwal's motive is ongoing, the incident has prompted a swift partisan response in political commentary:


Right-wing commentators and politicians have used the incident to criticize left-wing rhetoric, the Biden administration's handling of the Afghanistan withdrawal, and U.S. immigration vetting processes.
Seems that the OP knows something that the investigators don't know. Would the OP forward a BC to us with that email to the investigators that details what he knows about this shooting.

He could, at the minimum, show us the guys phony voter ID showing he is a registered libby.

But we all know that won't happen since the guy ain't eligible to vote.

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This is collateral damage. The killer was one of many Afghans who helped the USA. We were honor bound to get as many of them out as possible before they fell into the hands of the Taliban. And unfortunately the Biden and Trump administrations did a piss poor job of that. Many were left behind.

If you want to lay blame, put it at the feet of the neoconservatives and nation builders in the George W Bush and Obama administrations. We had no business sticking around in that country for almost 20 years.
Can't argue with that. At least a potus who did not cut out the recognized government officials from negotiations in that country (and who dealt with the terrorist we had been fighting there) got us out of there without spending gazzillions more money without end.

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Who released like 20000 taliban from prison before the exit?
Are you saying this shooter was one of those taliban? I can't see how your question would be on topic if not.
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Old 11-29-2025, 03:53 AM   #32
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Yep regarding this post claiming Biden let in 8000. How many of those 8000 were prisoners? Could be thousands that should be in prison still in middle east, not here.

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Biden let him in along with 8000 other Afghans.


Any of those 8000 could be radical Islamic terrorists sleepers, just waiting for their activation orders.


This is all Biden's fault, as usual, as always.


Obama, Biden and Democrats have done so much damage to the USA in the past 16 years, it will take decades to fix.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/suspect...-what-we-know/
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Old 11-29-2025, 06:26 AM   #33
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32 posts all trapped in the "Right Left Paradigm".
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Old 11-29-2025, 07:14 AM   #34
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...We were honor bound to get as many of them out as possible before they fell into the hands of the Taliban...
I know the typical magician doesn't reveal their secrets, but uhhmmm... how did you convert the word out to in? Cool party trick and all. What's wrong with sending them to Tanzania?

You did catch the part where the interloper has been on the dole the whole time since he got "in" to the USA. First via direct payments, then Soros backed NGOs and then the American citizen, i.e. tax payer's dime. No job, no furniture, no contribution - just that he had to be gotten "out".

Why would he have to be gotten "out" in the first place, if we "left" in a well designed and orderly fashion?!?
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Old 11-29-2025, 09:09 AM   #35
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32 posts all trapped in the "Right Left Paradigm".
Not every post is trapped in the left right paradigm although most are.

The title of the OP requires it. bb1961‘s thread title “leftwing nut” set the tone from the beginning.

My question would be. How could anyone classify a Moslem Afghani Special Operations CIA operative as “Left Wing”?
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Old 11-29-2025, 10:43 AM   #36
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OP started the thread having all the information to declare this a "leftwing nut."


Yet, as of today, no one has verifiable information about that.
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Old 11-29-2025, 11:32 AM   #37
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They're running out of knees to jerk. But that doesn't stop them.

Just like their earless leader.

OP famously is leaping to conclusions. Again.
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Old 11-29-2025, 11:50 AM   #38
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They're running out of knees to jerk. But that doesn't stop them.

Just like their earless leader.

OP famously is leaping to conclusions. Again.
You give him too much credit.

The only intent of threads like this is to vent hate on Dems/Libs.

They are so consumed by it that they will even exploit the victims of this insane act to do so.
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Old 11-29-2025, 03:21 PM   #39
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Who released like 20000 taliban from prison before the exit?
The Trump Administration persuaded the Afghan government to release 5,000 Taliban from prison in 2020. After the Taliban came to power in 2021, they released another 15,000+. The release of 20,000+ prisoners was inevitable if the USA withdrew from Afghanistan. You do agree with Trump and Biden that the USA should have gotten out of Afghanistan, right? Twenty years was long enough IMO.

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I know the typical magician doesn't reveal their secrets, but uhhmmm... how did you convert the word out to in? Cool party trick and all. What's wrong with sending them to Tanzania?

You did catch the part where the interloper has been on the dole the whole time since he got "in" to the USA. First via direct payments, then Soros backed NGOs and then the American citizen, i.e. tax payer's dime. No job, no furniture, no contribution - just that he had to be gotten "out".

Why would he have to be gotten "out" in the first place, if we "left" in a well designed and orderly fashion?!?
The Trump Administration was on schedule to withdraw from Afghanistan by May 1, 2021. That was in the Doha agreement with the Taliban. Troops actually were out in August, 2021. Maybe the withdrawal wouldn't have been a huge clusterfuck under a Trump administration. Or maybe it would have. We'll never know.

The killer, Rahmanullah Lakanwal, was the leader of an Afghan special forces team who worked with the CIA and U.S. and British military.

Do you believe the CIA should send its ex-operatives and assassins to Tanzania, to make sure they don't kill Americans? Why stop there? Why not strip citizenship from ex Seals and Rangers who served in combat and send them to Tanzania? Like people in Lakanwal's position, they're well oiled killing machines, and PTSD might just put them over the edge. Better to get them the hell away from the rest of us.

Those were rhetorical questions WYID. I know you don't believe that.

Every once in a while, an immigrant, legal or illegal, is going to kill people, intentionally or accidentally. Immigrants probably kill at lower rates than native born citizens. Are Afghan refugees inherently violent? I don't think so. The annual homicide rate in Afghanistan is 5 per 100,000 population, less than the USA, and a lot less than places like New Orleans, St. Louis and Washington D.C.
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Yep regarding this post claiming Biden let in 8000. How many of those 8000 were prisoners? Could be thousands that should be in prison still in middle east, not here.
Prisoners of who? The recognized Afghan goverment? Of the Taliban?

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I know the typical magician doesn't reveal their secrets, but uhhmmm... how did you convert the word out to in? Cool party trick and all. What's wrong with sending them to Tanzania?

You did catch the part where the interloper has been on the dole the whole time since he got "in" to the USA. First via direct payments, then Soros backed NGOs and then the American citizen, i.e. tax payer's dime. No job, no furniture, no contribution - just that he had to be gotten "out".

Why would he have to be gotten "out" in the first place, if we "left" in a well designed and orderly fashion?!?
Ah. Still mudding the waters. But to point, what was this well designed and orderly fashion agreement? Does such an agreement come from dealing directly with the terrorist we had been fighting there for years? Surly such an agreement could have come from the officially recognized goverment that was there but, *gasp* was not present when dealing with said terrorist. And it seems that it was convenient for the melange one to have himself out of office when the dealings were to be complete. Surprising that an orange donut who claims to be a deal closer was nowhere to be found on the completion of. But I guess the results that occurred happen when you don't deal in good faith.

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OP started the thread having all the information to declare this a "leftwing nut."


Yet, as of today, no one has verifiable information about that.
Missed that declaration. So, OP, where is this verifiable info?

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The Trump Administration persuaded the Afghan government to release 5,000 Taliban from prison in 2020. After the Taliban came to power in 2021, they released another 15,000+. The release of 20,000+ prisoners was inevitable if the USA withdrew from Afghanistan. You do agree with Trump and Biden that the USA should have gotten out of Afghanistan, right? Twenty years was long enough IMO.



The Trump Administration was on schedule to withdraw from Afghanistan by May 1, 2021. That was in the Doha agreement with the Taliban. Troops actually were out in August, 2021. Maybe the withdrawal wouldn't have been a huge clusterfuck under a Trump administration. Or maybe it would have. We'll never know.

The killer, Rahmanullah Lakanwal, was the leader of an Afghan special forces team who worked with the CIA and U.S. and British military.

Do you believe the CIA should send its ex-operatives and assassins to Tanzania, to make sure they don't kill Americans? Why stop there? Why not strip citizenship from ex Seals and Rangers who served in combat and send them to Tanzania? Like people in Lakanwal's position, they're well oiled killing machines, and PTSD might just put them over the edge. Better to get them the hell away from the rest of us.

Those were rhetorical questions WYID. I know you don't believe that.

Every once in a while, an immigrant, legal or illegal, is going to kill people, intentionally or accidentally. Immigrants probably kill at lower rates than native born citizens. Are Afghan refugees inherently violent? I don't think so. The annual homicide rate in Afghanistan is 5 per 100,000 population, less than the USA, and a lot less than places like New Orleans, St. Louis and Washington D.C.
It is noted on many sources that immigrants commit crimes/killings on a smaller percentage than citizens as a whole. But don't waste your breath on a maggie stating and supplying stats.
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It is noted on many sources that immigrants commit crimes/killings on a smaller percentage than citizens as a whole.
What is the acceptable number of citizens that illegal aliens should be allowed to murder?
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What is the acceptable number of citizens that illegal aliens should be allowed to murder?
Same number as a natural born 'murkin can.

Next brilliant question?

How about this one - has the OP acknowledged that he posted false information in order to advance his MAGA narrative?
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Same number as a natural born 'murkin can.

Next brilliant question?

How about this one - has the OP acknowledged that he posted false information in order to advance his MAGA narrative?
He ducked answering that question on another thread. Would it be considered spamming here since he ain't addressing it?
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Not every post is trapped in the left right paradigm although most are.

The title of the OP requires it. bb1961‘s thread title “leftwing nut” set the tone from the beginning.

My question would be. How could anyone classify a Moslem Afghani Special Operations CIA operative as “Left Wing”?

I guess it depends on your point of view. My point of view is everyone is crazy and potential combative. The "Right Left Paradigm is a sham.
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Old 11-30-2025, 09:28 AM   #45
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I guess it depends on your point of view. My point of view is everyone is crazy and potential combative. The "Right Left Paradigm is a sham.
As such, should everyone be deported? Because of the actions of one deranged white old man?

What does Q say?
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