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Old 12-17-2025, 05:06 AM   #31
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What narrative is that?

Can you show one post here that the people you describe as leftwinger dispute that illegal truck drivers cause accidents?

Only thing *I* find is that maggies won't admit legals cause a helluvalot more accidents than the people the OP claims.

*BUT* I will admit to being wrong when a vetted source can prove otherwise...like i've asked for in the past when threads of this nature pop up.

That is the narrative maggies don't like to hear.
This is ALL over the internet you just refuse to look because it doesn't fit your narrative. These illegals are reeking havoc on this country and it come from 'sanctuary' states and why on all your posts you confirm that shows you don't care.

ILLEGALS are breaking the laws of this country...and you are twisting yourself in a pretzel to defend this criminal activity. Bitten open the borders and didn't give a shit who came in and now the job of evicting the people is somehow bad??

That's some sad comments from you and the rest on the left deflecting from the destructive criminal behavior of these miscreants released to commit more crimes, this is very troubling.

The comments from the first one always to post on here saying this is a troll thread...nothing about these thread isn't 100% accurate and correct...that proves that confirmation basis is STRONG on those who can't see the forest for the trees...keep on keeping on.
It just so transparent even Stevie Wonder sees it!!
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Old 12-17-2025, 08:41 AM   #32
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Bullish headlines?? Disprove ANY of it you can't 63k+ post and you say trolling...what fucking nonsense.
It's funny how I see no mention of the habitual crimes this illegal has committed and released because of these sanctuaries policies that these brain dead liberal bastions supporting. This nonsense of incouraging these criminal law breakers is astonishing. Rewarding these habitual criminals by releasing them only continues this destructive behavior...if that can't be addressed then this FACTUAL information is lost on confirmation basis which is typical from the left. It's impossible to defend these actions but the left doesn't stop trying.
Stop calling him "illegal." Please use the correct phrase:

Habitual-Criminal-Illegal-Leftist-Commie-Trans-Confirmation Basised-Antifa trucker.

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Old 12-17-2025, 09:05 AM   #33
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I made up FACTS...how fucking ridiculous is that statement of yours.
You don't even know what confirmation basis is because everything you say just galvanize that. When you imbrace self-awareness you might see things in a UNBASIS understanding.
You just keep doubling down on your erroneous and mislabeled bullshit, bb.

This post offers nothing to the discussion. You’re just duking it out with your fellow member.

Word of advice. If you’re going to get into a war of words … know the words you use as ammunition.

This thread has been a troll since the beginning. Why? Because your hysterical take on it made it so.

Loaded with constipation bison.

If you want to conduct an honest, civil conversation or debate, try to present something less confirmated. Maybe people won’t be so offended.

And yes, your OP is that kind of conflationated basis.
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Old 12-17-2025, 09:45 AM   #34
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^^lol sir..
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Old 12-17-2025, 11:47 AM   #35
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What narrative is that?

Can you show one post here that the people you describe as leftwinger dispute that illegal truck drivers cause accidents?

Only thing *I* find is that maggies won't admit legals cause a helluvalot more accidents than the people the OP claims.

*BUT* I will admit to being wrong when a vetted source can prove otherwise...like i've asked for in the past when threads of this nature pop up.

That is the narrative maggies don't like to hear.
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This is ALL over the internet you just refuse to look because it doesn't fit your narrative. <blah> <blah> <blah> <blah> <blah> <blah> <blah>

I ain't asking for "all over the internet." I'm asking for the members here on PF who think they know everything.

So, come back if you like and address what you quoted from me. And i'll rephrase itto be clear. You don't find anyone you call a libby denying any accident from those you call illegal.

*ALSO* you don't acknowledge and/or give proof showing they cause the mayhem you describe on the same scale of legals.

If y'all maggies parked the rage postings, you could be much more eloquent in getting your points across.
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Old 12-17-2025, 12:37 PM   #36
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It's MAGA S.O.P.

They reference a bunch of supposed "statistics."

Then, when they are challenged to produce them, they ignore the request... or blame the person asking for them for being too lazy to look up the proof for their claims. Classic.

"It's all over the internet! Look it up for yourself!" And...it ain't.

Or...better yet...they tell you to prove a negative, which is impossible (and asinine).

"All leftists support these illegal truckers killing people. Prove me wrong!"

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Old 12-17-2025, 01:30 PM   #37
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*ALSO* you don't acknowledge and/or give proof showing they cause the mayhem you describe on the same scale of legals.
So... You're implying that as long as illegal aliens only kill people at the same rate as US citizen CDL holders, you are happy allowing illegals drive on the roads...

If your children die in an with a CDL holder, you would not be MORE upset if the driver wasn't even supposed to be in the Country?

I would be. Accidents happen... but in this case it would be an accident that was preventable, and indeed, the government who I pay mucho dinero too in terms of taxes has a DUTY to prevent that accident. The State DMVs that issued that CDL have a DUTY to prevent that accident.
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Old 12-17-2025, 01:38 PM   #38
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So...more <blah> <blah> <blah>
Don't be the ol' run-of-the-mill maggie and avoid answering what was posted AND try to deflect/change narrative.

I'll be happy to address what you asked when you exercise the decorum of properly answering what you quoted that was posted first.

Try to dig a straight ditch tejas digger when having a dialogue.
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Old 12-17-2025, 03:38 PM   #39
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Don't be the ol' run-of-the-mill maggie and avoid answering what was posted AND try to deflect/change narrative.

I'll be happy to address what you asked when you exercise the decorum of properly answering what you quoted that was posted first.

Try to dig a straight ditch tejas digger when having a dialogue.
I have been 100% clear that I don't care about the rate at which illegals kill others on the road. I don't care if they are the best drivers that ever sat behind the wheel of a tractor... even 1 death at the hands of someone that is LEGALLY NOT SUPPOSED to be behind the wheel let alone in the Country is one too many.

The rate is irrelevant. The fact that they kill anyone at all is the key factor in my not wanting them on the roads.
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Old 12-17-2025, 03:45 PM   #40
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So... You're implying that as long as illegal aliens only kill people at the same rate as US citizen CDL holders, you are happy allowing illegals drive on the roads...

If your children die in an with a CDL holder, you would not be MORE upset if the driver wasn't even supposed to be in the Country?

I would be. Accidents happen... but in this case it would be an accident that was preventable, and indeed, the government who I pay mucho dinero too in terms of taxes has a DUTY to prevent that accident. The State DMVs that issued that CDL have a DUTY to prevent that accident.
The red highlight isn't true. It is pure conjecture.

I could also speculate beyond logical reason and make the following claim, which would be just as valid as yours (a VERY low bar):

If we prevent "illegal aliens" from getting CDL's, then we will be forced to give more freight work to driver's with citizenship. And it has already been proven that those drivers have a higher fatal accident rate than "illegals" (lookit up, dammit, I ain't doing my work for you!)....

ERGO....

It makes fatal accidents MORE likely if we DON'T give CDL's to illegals!

And the government has an OBLIGATION to give them to them, or they are not doing their best job to ensure our safety!

(an absurd point, to be sure...but not more so than yours)

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The rate is irrelevant. The fact that they kill anyone at all is the key factor in my not wanting them on the roads.
There ya go. The only accurate statement you have made: the rate is irrelevant. Totally. Your arguments are so full of logical holes that they make no sense whatsoever.

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Old 12-17-2025, 04:33 PM   #41
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I have been 100% clear ... I don't care about ... illegals

Cleaned that up for you.

The rate is irrelevant. The fact that they kill anyone at all is the key factor in my not wanting them on the roads.

Can't have verbal intercourse with a brick wall.

POV as yours, you'd be doing yourself a favour not trying to make me look/understand/bend to a person who admits to have an unflinching mind.

Change that intractable quality you have, i'll be happy to entertain since i'm willing to see from another persons side of an issue.
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