Human trafficking? What are they talking about?

[purplepatch]

Originally Posted by Spoljana

since you have a problem with people being a part of this hobby.

Originally Posted by Spoljana

Following closely for the intel on this south Dallas spot

Originally Posted by Spoljana

I live on the south side of Dallas

Again, words have meaning. We're talking about human trafficking. Yet, you refer to it as this hobby. I have no issue with two or more consenting adults engaging in any kind of sexual activity whether paid for or otherwise. No harm, no problem. What I do have a major problem with is people who knowingly take part in sex trafficking and/or make excuses for it and pretend like it's not as much of a problem as it really is. It is a major problem and anyone who tries to downplay it is either lying to themselves or knowingly participating in it.

Looking for info on a spot close to where you live that deals in human trafficking while referring to it as part of the hobby sounds bad to me. Maybe you didn't mean it that way, maybe you did; I don't know. But I hope that most of us would not take part in it if we knew the woman was being trafficked. Unfortunately, some wouldn't care.

I don't think all escorts are trafficked obviously. But there are clear signs of the ones who are. Hint: middle aged women working at AMPs who live on site at the business are almost certainly trafficked. Your average woman in her mid to late 40's isn't going sign up to be smuggled into a foreign country to have sex with strange men every day. I don't care what her situation is, the vast majority of women aren't going to do that. Yet, that's all you find at the AMPs.

[poon_69]

Can we close this lol

[Spoljana]

Originally Posted by purplepatch

Again, words have meaning. We're talking about human trafficking. Yet, you refer to it as this hobby. I have no issue with two or more consenting adults engaging in any kind of sexual activity whether paid for or otherwise. No harm, no problem. What I do have a major problem with is people who knowingly take part in sex trafficking and/or make excuses for it and pretend like it's not as much of a problem as it really is. It is a major problem and anyone who tries to downplay it is either lying to themselves or knowingly participating in it.

Looking for info on a spot close to where you live that deals in human trafficking while referring to it as part of the hobby sounds bad to me. Maybe you didn't mean it that way, maybe you did; I don't know. But I hope that most of us would not take part in it if we knew the woman was being trafficked. Unfortunately, some wouldn't care.

I don't think all escorts are trafficked obviously. But there are clear signs of the ones who are. Hint: middle aged women working at AMPs who live on site at the business are almost certainly trafficked. Your average woman in her mid to late 40's isn't going sign up to be smuggled into a foreign country to have sex with strange men every day. I don't care what her situation is, the vast majority of women aren't going to do that. Yet, that's all you find at the AMPs.

You picked apart most of my posts…yet your inability to comprehend all of it. I will spell it out for you since you don’t get it:

2. I live on the south side of Dallas. Any bust (or potential) of any sort definitely pops up on my radar. Do I plan on seeing any there? No. Am I interested in what goes on there? You bet your ass I'm interested.

See, if you’ve been around the boards for a while, you would know that busts happen in waves and in certain geographic areas. So if this south Dallas spot gets raided, then hotels where I’ve seen several Indy’s are now in harms way as sting operations have happened.

I agree with what you have posted. Before attacking others, look at their review history. All Indy’s for me. In my thread, I stated i don’t see LC Latinas out of fear that they have been trafficked here. Same with AMP’s and studios.

Feel free to PM me with any questions you have about ladies. I have several hobbyists i share intel with.

Peace to all…

[Anthonylewis50]

Originally Posted by purplepatch

Again, words have meaning. We're talking about human trafficking. Yet, you refer to it as this hobby. I have no issue with two or more consenting adults engaging in any kind of sexual activity whether paid for or otherwise. No harm, no problem. What I do have a major problem with is people who knowingly take part in sex trafficking and/or make excuses for it and pretend like it's not as much of a problem as it really is. It is a major problem and anyone who tries to downplay it is either lying to themselves or knowingly participating in it.

Looking for info on a spot close to where you live that deals in human trafficking while referring to it as part of the hobby sounds bad to me. Maybe you didn't mean it that way, maybe you did; I don't know. But I hope that most of us would not take part in it if we knew the woman was being trafficked. Unfortunately, some wouldn't care.

I don't think all escorts are trafficked obviously. But there are clear signs of the ones who are. Hint: middle aged women working at AMPs who live on site at the business are almost certainly trafficked. Your average woman in her mid to late 40's isn't going sign up to be smuggled into a foreign country to have sex with strange men every day. I don't care what her situation is, the vast majority of women aren't going to do that. Yet, that's all you find at the AMPs.

You have two reviews. Both of which are from studios. Studios and amps are regularly raided for human trafficking. You have no reviews of established ladies. But your argument is amps are for traffickers and studios are for what? Business people? How do yo know the two ladies from your reviews weren't trafficked? This issue seems to matter to you. If it does. Share with the guys the tell tell signs of trafficking...at an Asian/latina studio that makes the ladies you reviewed different from the ones you are fighting with all your might to protect.

Also... people don't sign up to be trafficked. It's not fucking groupon. Not everyone has a choice. You are making up criteria and shaming people based on criteria you made the fuck up

[poon_69]

Me thinks he did those fake reviews to get PA and is LE

[ClevererHandle]

Human Trafficking in the US:


Human trafficking involves the use of force, fraud, or coercion to obtain some type of labor or commercial sex act.


(https://www.dhs.gov/blue-campaign/wh...an-trafficking)


Is "you owe us ¥1M, if you can't figure out how to pay we have some ideas" force, fraud, or coercion?


How about "my kids will grow up dirt-floor poor, or I can leave them with ma for 10 years and give them a life of opportunities I didn't have"?

[SnackyChan]

Originally Posted by ClevererHandle

Human Trafficking in the US:


Human trafficking involves the use of force, fraud, or coercion to obtain some type of labor or commercial sex act.


(https://www.dhs.gov/blue-campaign/wh...an-trafficking)


Is "you owe us ¥1M, if you can't figure out how to pay we have some ideas" force, fraud, or coercion?


How about "my kids will grow up dirt-floor poor, or I can leave them with ma for 10 years and give them a life of opportunities I didn't have"?

Wow. Are you serious? Of course it's trafficking. If you're arguing semantics, at minimum it is endentured servitude, which is still illegal here.

Giving a poor mother in a third-world country an "opportunity" to come to a rich country, to trap them into sexual servitude (debt owed almost always improportional to the cost of smuggling them in) is fucked up, even if the mother agreed to make trip.

JFC. Are you actually trying to make a justification for this kind of exploitation?

[futbolhead]

Originally Posted by SnackyChan

Giving a poor mother in a third-world country an "opportunity" to come to a rich country, to trap them into sexual servitude (debt owed almost always improportional to the cost of smuggling them in) is fucked up, even if the mother agreed to make trip.

This is the typical Cuban story. The woman agrees to come and often knows a lot of what’s involved. Prostitution isn’t a crime in Cuba and is viewed differently, many times parents, aunts, uncles all chip in what they can but they still owe the ‘coyote’, 15-20k. That ain’t a straight up pimp ‘ubering’ her to and from, it’s a quasi-pimp, a representative of who fronted the money to get inside the states to ensure that the money guy gets paid first. Many times the woman has a child in cuba and parents who need food and medicine. It’s not a perfect world and when caught the girl is sent back to Cuba without debt, but she took the shot. If an American guy is caught as client or involved in the transport, he’ll wear the felony for life.

[Anthonylewis50]

Originally Posted by SnackyChan

Wow. Are you serious? Of course it's trafficking. If you're arguing semantics, at minimum it is endentured servitude, which is still illegal here.

Giving a poor mother in a third-world country an "opportunity" to come to a rich country, to trap them into sexual servitude (debt owed almost always improportional to the cost of smuggling them in) is fucked up, even if the mother agreed to make trip.

JFC. Are you actually trying to make a justification for this kind of exploitation?

Bro..... every time you bang a provider...it's exploitation.

[SnackyChan]

Originally Posted by Anthonylewis50

Bro..... every time you bang a provider...it's exploitation.

Nice to hear you believe it's exploitation and you still have no problem continuing to participate. That says a lot about you.

Of course I disagree on your point that it's exploitation. I don't go to AMPs/studios or deal with providers who are managed specifically for the moral aspect of that. *Just to be clear, I'm not saying that AMPs/studios are all evil, but I prefer to not contribute to unregulated businesses that have the potential for employee coersion. Even legal businesses deal with unfair employer/employee dynamics, so I don't think underground businesses are going to behave better.. but that's a whole nother conversation I don't care to get into here.

OTOH, independent providers are chosing for themselves and what they want to do with their body. Both ends of the transaction get what they want, and most importantly CONSENT is involved.

I'll give you the benefit of helping your argument by saying maybe the provider is in a desperate situation, hates what she does, but this is her only resort. My response to that is, most likely an indy provider is struggling while making $200-$1k per day tax free is to feed a drug habit... and I stay away from those providers too.

I select providers who love sex and enjoy their sessions with me. Explain how that is exploitation. Maybe your point was that I'm being exploited since they got sex AND money out of me?

[Spoljana]

Originally Posted by SnackyChan

Nice to hear you believe it's exploitation and you still have no problem continuing to participate. That says a lot about you.

Of course I disagree on your point that it's exploitation. I don't go to AMPs/studios or deal with providers who are managed specifically for the moral aspect of that. *Just to be clear, I'm not saying that AMPs/studios are all evil, but I prefer to not contribute to unregulated businesses that have the potential for employee coersion. Even legal businesses deal with unfair employer/employee dynamics, so I don't think underground businesses are going to behave better.. but that's a whole nother conversation I don't care to get into here.

OTOH, independent providers are chosing for themselves and what they want to do with their body. Both ends of the transaction get what they want, and most importantly CONSENT is involved.

I'll give you the benefit of helping your argument by saying maybe the provider is in a desperate situation, hates what she does, but this is her only resort. My response to that is, most likely an indy provider is struggling while making $200-$1k per day tax free is to feed a drug habit... and I stay away from those providers too.

I select providers who love sex and enjoy their sessions with me. Explain how that is exploitation. Maybe your point was that I'm being exploited since they got sex AND money out of me?

So…do you interview your providers? Are you assuming every indy lady is, in fact, independent? Lots of mongers here thought the “Blurries” were young hotties looking to make some bank in their youth, when in fact, most were lured into this lifestyle. More sanctimonious bull crap here! Enough with the holier than thou bullshit!

[SnackyChan]

Originally Posted by Spoljana

So…do you interview your providers? Are you assuming every indy lady is, in fact, independent? Lots of mongers here thought the “Blurries” were young hotties looking to make some bank in their youth, when in fact, most were lured into this lifestyle. More sanctimonious bull crap here! Enough with the holier than thou bullshit!

I would have responded to you reasonably, but you're one of the reprobates here who was asking about the "South Dallas spot".

[Spoljana]

You and the purple dude need to go to Chuck E Cheese together. Maybe y’all can learn reading comprehension while patting each other on the back that your felonious behavior is truly enriching lives.

[SnackyChan]

Yea, sure nice backtrack. We all believe you. You just needed "intel" about the spot for safety purposes. Right.

My response was directed at someone else and had nothing to do with you, but apparently you took exception to it as if it was about you. How revealing!

Furthermore, what makes you think "interviewing" providers will get the truth. Are you this dumb? It's pretty astounding that you're here participating in activities with providers, while making the case that many of them are actually trafficked. How exactly do you reconcile the high moral compass you annointed yourself with, while partaking in what you know could be trafficking?

[Spoljana]

Originally Posted by Anthonylewis50

Bro..... every time you bang a provider...it's exploitation.

Preach my brother. There’s some idiots here that don’t get it.