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Old 12-31-2025, 09:37 PM   #16
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I have never quite gotten why the "Affordable Care Act". needed subsidies in the first place . . .because the economy was shut down during the Covid panic? Well, if that is accepted as a justification . . . . now that the pandemic panic is over, why do we still need a subsidy at all?

All of this is directly attributable to the progressive left. How does any "blame" for this leftist fiasco fall on the Republicans?
Liken it to a person who doesn't vote. They are not allowed to debate/argue politics.

So, when the Party of No refused to offer any legislation on healthcare and invested their energies to tear down the other parties plan, they created the fiasco that you refer to.

Good legislation comes about when all sides have input.

I keep saying that. And MTG admitted y'all maggies haven't had a "concept of a plan" for many years.

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"Study" and "Maggies" are mutually exclusive terms.
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Old Yesterday, 01:49 AM   #17
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This UNaffordable care act is completely on the dems. ZERO support from the GOP and rightfully so.
President Trump tried to get the ACA repealed in his first term. That failed because three Republican Senators voted no. They were Sen Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Sen Susan Collins of Maine and the late Sen John McCain of Arizona.

So, you can't say there was never Republican support for the ACA.
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I have never quite gotten why the "Affordable Care Act". needed subsidies in the first place . . .because the economy was shut down during the Covid panic? Well, if that is accepted as a justification . . . . now that the pandemic panic is over, why do we still need a subsidy at all?

All of this is directly attributable to the progressive left. How does any "blame" for this leftist fiasco fall on the Republicans?
The subsidies are in the original ACA legislation because it can be very expensive for the health insurance companies to sell a health insurance policy to someone that is "Already Sick" or has a pre-existing medical condition. Ex a person has high blood sugar or high blood cholesterol or has bad kidneys and needs dialysis treatment every day. If the health insurance company gets stuck with too many of these types of policyholders they won't make a profit and seek a increase in premium for the next year. Thus, Obamacare premiums have been increasing at an exponential rate ever since the Risk Corridor program of the ACA legislation was removed. This was led by Sen Rubio of Florida.

Read the sections on Individual mandate, Subsidies and Risk Management in the Wiki link below and it will explain why the subsidies were put in the legislation originally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_Care_Act
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President Trump tried to get the ACA repealed in his first term. That failed because three Republican Senators voted no. They were Sen Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Sen Susan Collins of Maine and the late Sen John McCain of Arizona.

So, you can't say there was never Republican support for the ACA.
Yes he did.
And he never offered an alternative.
They never supported ANY comprehensive health care plan.
Just lied and said "concepts of a plan". That means there is no plan, just a concept.
And MTG stated that the maggies haven't had a plan for many years.

So, on a technical note of voting for ACA you can claim 3 voted for it. But put together and worked on a plan, an actual full blown plan, maggies well roundedly deserve the moniker Party of No.

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The subsidies are in the original ACA legislation because it can be very expensive for the health insurance companies to sell a health insurance policy to someone that is "Already Sick" or has a pre-existing medical condition. Ex a person has high blood sugar or high blood cholesterol or has bad kidneys and needs dialysis treatment every day. If the health insurance company gets stuck with too many of these types of policyholders they won't make a profit and seek a increase in premium for the next year. Thus, Obamacare premiums have been increasing at an exponential rate ever since the Risk Corridor program of the ACA legislation was removed. This was led by Sen Rubio of Florida.

Read the sections on Individual mandate, Subsidies and Risk Management in the Wiki link below and it will explain why the subsidies were put in the legislation originally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_Care_Act
Insurance companies are not allowed to pick and choose who they insure. If so, those that really need insurace would never get it. And this has been proved with their actions with Ashkenazi Jewish women and the lawsuit they lost for black balling them.
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House passes maintaining subsidies with 17 Republicans voting yes. the Senate will be a different story with the filibuster, which is a silly tradition.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/17-...-extension.amp
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